CAMP FEMA The Lockdown of America

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If you haven't watched this movie yet, I would urge you to do so.

The website is http://campfema.com/alex-jones-show-live.html
On the right hand side you see a button where you can order the DVD.

Or you can dowload it here http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=CAMP+FEMA&cat=0 Torrent download.

One of many thoughts whilst watching: it talks about a certain paper being signed in 1982 which concluded that the 21 million African Americans were the biggest threat to the existing social and political order. Couldn't Help but think that that's why they selected Obama. His task is to have at least the black community totally under control so they won't be the threat they believe they are..

Anyhow, some weekend watching for some..

In the documentary, references have been made to Project Megiddo and this document is about this project which some might find of interest to peruse: http://www.cesnur.org/testi/FBI_004.htm

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If the Census Bureau played a part...

...in the internment of Japanese-Americans in the '40's, imagine how much more of a role they could play with all the data that can be mined from the intrusive questions on the forms now.

In an article regarding the role of the Census Bureau in the '40's, an official at the Bureau, Christa Jones, said, "...now the law is different...The data we collect now can no longer be disclosed in that way."

"Ms. Jones said that during World War II and shortly afterward, it was legal for the bureau to share information with other branches of government in furtherance of the war effort."

http://www.nysun.com/national/census-bureau-aided-internment...

Well, what if the law becomes ~different~ making it legal again?...not that it really has to.

We have only to look at the illegal cooperation of phone companies with government in recent years to know that the law does not have to change for the cooperation to still take place.

Also, there was a thread here recently showing that 99.61% of the Sneak-and-Peek searches in 2008 authorized by the Patriot Act were for things other than terrorism. 760 out of 763.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/108792

Xntryk posted a thread a couple weeks ago about a data-mining project of the FBI that sounds much like the Pentagon's supposedly abandoned Total Information Awareness project.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/109255

If the FBI is mining data on people and the Census Bureau has oodles of information, can people not see cause for concern here?

If the government will use the so-called Patriot Act for things other than terrorism, what is stopping the Census Bureau from using information it collects for things other than the Constitutionally authorized count to determine representation?

The pages of intrusive questions being asked now involve much more than "the count", as that would obviously be only one question: How many people live in this household?

So, for what (unconstitutional) purpose is this other information being collected?

I agree there will be(or are) camps

like this for "dissenters".

However, I think that they will use "official lies" and propaganda, along with "crisis situations" to manage the general population.
And even probably will succeed in managing(herding) alot of them, to their own demise, as well as getting them to "rat-out" as many dissenters as possible.

The world is now a "war for the mind", and they are really working on those aspects.
It's much easier for them to have their victims willingly walk into the gas chamber, than to have to hunt them down and exterminate them.
For that reason, I think that this is going to be much more of a game of subterfuge in the realm of mentally controlling the people, than it will be a war of guns.
The guns will come out after they have the most pliable sheeple already in the gulags, or actually on their team, and then there will be an attempted "clean-up" of the "resistance" out there.

So, in my view, people must be VERY wary about ANYTHING that the gov't says, in these upcoming times.
Particularly if it involves anything with "emergency powers" and such.

@BIG T

I am one that agrees completely that the "War Now Is For Mind." You in your opinion of warning of the attempted "clean-up" of the "resistance" truly is out there for people to consider, yet it is "TRUTH." to many such as myself. How does the power overcome many? Offer them M-O-N-E-Y to overcome the "Resistance." Money Will N-E-V-E-R overcome the TRUE Patriots of Resistance. Thanks for your input.

They do not have enough troops nor bullets.

They won't be able to even hold down a single large city much less the entire nation.

In New Orleans, with 90% of the residents evacuated, they couldn't hold down the city. You think they are going to begin and successfully carry out door to door exterminations and round ups of the entire nation?

HA!

As soon as people start hearing the gunshots around the neighborhood someone will get the word out and then all hell will break loose. Anyone who has been waiting for this and has not yet been picked up or shot will be lying in wait to take the bastards out before they knock on the door.

And if the morons that think they are in control are under the delusion that the "blue list" will go without a fight, they are sadly mistaken.

And I promise you, alleged "yellow list" people will start to wake up real quick and become self-avowed "blue listers."

Any moron that tries to slaughter any large segment of Americans and then tries to imprison or microchip the rest will die trying.

As the media does its part to paint an "us/them" picture...

...and vilify target groups, it could be easier than some of us think.

We do not even have to look to the past to see how people can be persuaded and manipulated to accept such things.

Let's take a look at a couple things in the news lately.

The flu. Not only are we seeing hysteria being created regarding the flu, but we are witnessing the vilifying of people who do not want vaccines. Ideas are being planted in peoples minds that people who do not want the vaccines are a threat to the safety of others.

Not sure how this is going to turn out, but we can see how this dividing and vilifying of "them" is having an effect on sentiment and policies.

Action is being taken. Besides vaccine requirements for school, we are seeing overreaching legislation contemplated, or even enacted, and now threats by employers.

Also, we have the recent G-20 incidents where we saw deliberate attacks by police on peaceful, unarmed protesters, and on people who were not protesting, and in some cases, attacks on people who were not even anywhere near protesters.

All hell did not break loose in response to this blatantly outrageous behavior on the part of police.

Not only did all hell not break loose, but a few on this forum were even justifying some of the police abuse, with one person actually applauding it, because there had been vandalism in the city... even though there was no connection whatsoever being made between the people being assaulted and the vandalism.

It would seem that this is another example where certain reactions were achieved by the creation of an "us/them" paradigm, with protesters being deemed the threat.

Not saying there weren't any protesters vandalizing, but police were targeting people who were NOT engaging in destruction and people justified their abusive behavior.

We also saw sophisticated weaponry, such as LRAD, brought out against civilians during this G-20 event.

Not long ago, there were Army troops on the streets of Alabama after a gunman went on a shooting spree, despite the gunman having killed himself. The reason given was traffic control and to protect the crime scene.

Even if this was a well intentioned act by the Army, it certainly represents a blurring of the line with regard to the role of military and civilian situations.

Can anyone look at these incidents and not see how conditioned society is becoming to accepting advances of an emerging police state?

A while back, there was a thread with a video called 'Five steps to tyranny'. It can be seen on youtube. Multiple parts, but definitely worth the watch for anyone who wants to know how people can be persuaded to go along with tyranny.

I wouldn't be so sure

They won't come after everyone all at once. They'll target the people they consider most dangerous first, and spin it so the general population will think of those people as dangerous too, and they'll have the cooperation of most of the American citizens on their side.

I should've refreshed my screen before posting above.

You conveyed my thoughts much more succinctly. Lol.

I liked

the longer version, too.

No, you're wrong!

Yours was a deliciously reasoned post. I much appreciated it.

New Hampshire and Ecuador

:)

Thank you

Think I found a streaming version

I'm always scared of torrents, either I have to convert something into 4 formats before I can view it, only to find out my codex is wrong and have to download something else just to get audio and then my computer gets some type of STD and looks at me funny

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=camp%20fema%20th...

If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. - George S. Patton

Thanks for the link.

:)

Folks get this video and

Folks get this video and start handing it out it is the next Freedom to Fascism! I downloaded the torrent and converted it and am burning DVDs now!

Most of us know what's going on however the video lays it all out and gives an ominous picture of what they are planning and how they are doing it. Turns out they are using the same tactics they used to round up Japanese Americans during WWII with some refinement and adjustment for today.

If you're not worried about what's going on then watch it and you will be. Even though I knew most of what they showed when you see it all put together in one sitting you will be pissed and motivated all at once.

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It is a pretty clear overview isn't it.

Apart from showing a lot of details and things we had heard about and seen before, other details added in make it a Must Watch!

One of those comments added in was about the 21 million African Americans considered to be the biggest threat back in '82. Apart from other interesting details, that one comment didn't receive nmuch more attention than just a mention but.. fast forward the clock 25+ yrs on and they have taken care of that threat with O in the WH.
Somewhere I read the comment that mass internment only works with cooperation.. well, they have worked towards that... years and years of getting the people into churches with pastors having been trained to herd them on to buses. Now with O, they have another substantial part of the population (that;s what they must have presumed anyway) compliant with whatever order comes from the top.

I went further because of the references made to the Megiddo Project (http://www.cesnur.org/testi/FBI_004.htm) and watched a long documentary yesterday: Megiddo, The New AGe Foundation of the New World Order (also from the same torrents download place).. A lot of interesting info in this nearly 3 hr long video . The first 2 hrs which I don't consider really to be a must see, but the 3rd hour has given me the most disturbing quotes and insights regarding the intentions of the NWO through the religious forces which are working towards the one world religion.
Still got another one to watch: Megiddo: March To Armageddon.
Both Megiddo documentaries track the developments in USA and the world from a biblical perspective.
The descriptions of both documentaries do not reflect what the actual documentaries show you.

I have said it many times.

I have said it many times. martial law or massive interment just cannot happen in America with out large scale voluntary compliance. That's were pandemics, terrorist attacks, and other false flag operations come in. This time it may be a combination of various scenarios. Still it is a long shot in my opinion because millions are now aware enough of thier false flag operations to be wary of any such thing now.

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Have you seen the footage from the G20 protests in Pittsburg?

Sound machines, military, tanks, etc.? All the stimulus money equipting police? Our little town is armed to the max thanks to the Fed.
800 camps have been identified. Completely built, barbwired, manned, empty and waiting.
Balk all you want. It's in your face.

The 'scary' list of 800 'FEMA camp' locations

which has been roaming the internet for a few years now
is totally a product of an overly-active imagination.
Most of them are abandoned military installations,
the rest are just current military bases.

The military bases are not

The military bases are not abandoned just not in use as military bases at the moment. If you watched the video they showed some examples of how they have plans and how quickly they can turn just about any facility into a detention center.

You generalization that all 800 are not detention centers shows your lack of investigation and objectivism. Several have been confirmed as set up for large scale detention and they have even admitted they are and thier excuse has been for illegal immigrants. When was the last time you have seen any effort to round up illegal immigrants in any significant number?

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Believe what you will.

I am quite familiar with the facilities at a number of these locations, and they are NOT FEMA camps, as described by the paranoid posters on the internet. 800 fully staffed empty concentration camps is just utterly ridiculous fear-mongering hogwash!

Any football stadium or ball park can well be used as a detention facility, if need be, for Christ's sake!

I am not balking DA. I am

I am not balking DA. I am stating facts. They do not have the manpower to round up millions nor the logistics, people will need to volunteer to make it happen and many dumbasses probably will. There MO is fear and intimidation via false flag operations.

Trust me there will be heavy resistance though. The most well armed well trained resourceful guerilla army in the history of the world is right here in the good ole US of A! They won't be dealing with kids peacefully protesting nor even guys in white robs with AK's

Remember the DC sniper? Look what two guys did to the whole city? Think of what hundreds of thousands who hunt dear and elk every year could do? Not to mention all the military veterans who are trained in the same tactics they use. They know they could not win a civil war with American patriots so they need some sort of coercion like a fake pandemic or terrorist attack or both to get people to volunteer for thier plans. Wake up and do your homework before poping off...

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I agree with you

Martial law in urban areas, sure I can see that. A generalized clamp-down is logistically impossible. A "unifying event" is much more likely.

Not sure who the intended inmates really were/are, but...

It would seem that someone was planning for large scale detention.

according to the movie

FEMA was started under Carter, but I get your point.
*supposed to be a response to Zenpiper

It was Reagan


Google Rex 84 or Louis O. Giuffrida, who was Reagan's man who established FEMA

Here is what Wiki says:

The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984, Exercise Plan; otherwise known as a continuity of government plan), indicates that FEMA in association with 34 other federal civil departments and agencies, along with other NATO nations, conducted a civil readiness exercise during April 5-13, 1984. It was conducted in coordination and simultaneously with a Joint Chiefs exercise, Night Train 84, a worldwide military command post exercise (including Continental U.S. Forces or CONUS) based on multi-emergency scenarios operating both abroad and at home. In the combined exercise, Rex-84 Bravo, FEMA and DOD led the other federal agencies and departments, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Veterans Administration through a gaming exercise to test military assistance in civil defense.

They set up several camps during this period to house the anti-Contra sentiment.



Blame Reagan


I don't know why Ronald Reagan was so idolized. A lot of bad stuff happened under his presidency, including the establishement of FEMA, Rex 84, and the establishement of camps for various detainees.

I was previously aware the camps were built to detain central Americans who opposed the Sandanistas, but the African-American thing is news to me. Still, if it was 1982, Reagan was the president and this just stinks.

From what I understand of the 1982 papers,

Megiddo Project http://www.cesnur.org/testi/FBI_004.htm
the camps were and are built for everyone, not just one particular section of the people. Perhaps one could say: one particular section and that would be terrorists, the home grown terrorists and according to their description of who is a terrorist, well, everyone 'qualifies'.

The connection of having Obama now as President, and the biggest threat of the African Americans as a force to deal with, , as perceived way back by the forces who were/are working on establishing the one world government, it just somehow jumped out to me when I was watching that documentary/movie. The Black Panthers, and the followers of MLK.. .. and other groups perceived as extremist. Give the black community their Messiah (=Obama) and they will be like putty in our(=NWO) hands. (AIDS didn't do the job for them.. oh man, these thoughts just make me feel sick to the stomach).

The plans of the NWO are so devilishly designed, so evil, that the real reason(s) of many things put into place (including Obama) go straight over most people's heads.
I am more than likely completely wrong and off track with these thoughts, and I know I want to be very wrong on this, but that's how it came across to me.

Not totally true. I have a friend that is

a black, ex-convict preacher(ex-marine) that I would turn my life over to. He just wants to protect his family and mine. In the crunch, He will help me protect our community! We have had many conversations about religion,government, and then again what is right and wrong.

I am sure he and his family voted for Obama. I am also sure they now regret thier vote. When it comes down to everyone going to camps even the black community will rebel. If not then GOD help us ALL!

1976-1982 USMC, You can thank me for my service by voting for Dr. Ron Paul, President 2012

As you might have surmised from my post,

I was going by the perception of the NWO who thinks literally black and white, no pun intended . Black and white as in: this group, that group etc, this way or that way, without making exceptions for the few who do not follow the typical behaviour as 'assigned' to them by the NWO.
Of course they will be aware that there are A.Americans who do not kiss the ground Obama walks. I personally know quite a few who don't and are vocal about standing up and are proud to say they didn't vote for him even. With the huge drop in O's popularity, of at least 20%, there will be many , black and white, who regret their vote for him even though not all might be aware of the huge sinister master plan behind putting Obama being in office.

The prisons and re-education camps for Agenda 21

Hey, it's four walls fully decorated . . they are building them for ANY eventuality.
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Torrent allowed?

Have the producers of the movie allowed it to be copied and downloaded?

If they haven't.....the IP police could use your statement above to your detriment.