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Marco Rubio - Farewell address to the Florida House about America

Submitted by istvan32 on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 10:02
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good speech

Submitted by trapfive on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 11:01.

Went to Rubio's web-site. Checked out his issues tab. Looks like the normal "conservative" credentials. Wants to cut spending and lower taxes...no mention of empire ending.

Does anyone know his stance on unconstitutional war?

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Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

See below...

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 11:03.

from what I understand he is a NeoCon when it comes to foreign policy, and the Drug War.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

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'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Thanks Bugman

Submitted by trapfive on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 11:19.

I'll have to look into it.

You're right about the God thing garnering votes. Everybody loves God! Problem is God is seen as those things that make me feel good; love, salvation, redemption. If it's anything that makes me feel fearful, that can't be God, therefor I can kill it, because it's not part of God and I can hate it.

One truth that I can't think my way past: God either is or isn't. He is everything or nothing. Everything includes all the stuff that I don't like.

For me to believe in God, I must believe that the evil man in the cave on the other side of the planet, plotting to kill me and my family, is as much a part of God as I am.

Everything is a huge word

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Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

I don't disagree with you...

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 11:29.

on your definition of god, in general, and would not dare start that debate here if I did! Enough of that in the current evolution thread.

Please let me know if I have the wrong info on Rubio, I'd LOVE to support him a little bit more, but he'd need to swing more libertarian for me to get excited about him.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

—

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Rubio on war

Submitted by trapfive on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:02.

Dr. Paul says the debate on war isn't focused in the right context, "should we even be there", he believes the debate focuses on troop levels and time-lines. I see nothing in this interview that points to Rubio understanding the empire problem.

In fact, this answer leads me to believe he's a 'go along to get along' politician. Not much in core principle here.....

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NmQyMWQwYTQzMGJlN...

FREDDOSO: In 2002, the Senate had to vote on whether to go to war. Do we want to get involved in further occupations of foreign countries, the way we did in Iraq?

RUBIO: Obviously, the Iraq War has had the chilling effect of making us question all intelligence findings now. The standard of proof now for intelligence is now higher than it’s ever been because of the Iraq experience. I think that there is some credence, in hindsight, to the notion that the real battlefield was in Afghanistan all along. That perhaps we didn’t fully beat the Taliban. That we were perhaps overconfident in how much support we were getting from the Pakistanis with regards to fighting al-Qaeda. Perhaps we’ve diverted too much attention away from that because of the necessities of Iraq.
But understand at the same time, we were being told that Iraq was on the verge of gaining a nuclear capability. A Saddam Hussein with a nuclear capability was someone that we believed, and who Hillary Clinton believed, and who a vast majority of the Democratic leaders believed, would share that technology with terrorists who would then use it against this country. So it’s impossible to sit here and give a fair analysis in hindsight. . . .

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Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

"he's a 'go along to get along' politician. "

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:11.

Good line there.. that pretty much sums him up on the empire thing & the drug war. To be fair, though, I think that he has actually demonstrated positive tendencies toward smaller government & tax reduction.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

—

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I hope he gets a grasp

Submitted by trapfive on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:22.

on the fact that it's impossible to make positive steps toward smaller government without confronting the empire thing.

I hope this guy doesn't swindle a lot of support from liberty minded folks.

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Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

Well he's the lesser of two evils here...

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:40.

and so much better than his R opponent, Charlie Crist, that the Republican Liberty Caucus here in FL is debating endorsing him. Only a few dissidents, myself included. Again, he's OK for a neocon, but is still a neocon.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

—

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Better than Crist, his opponent for Senate (FL)

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 10:59.

Some good points brought up, and certainly from the heart...

But he's no a libertarian... though he speaks of "self governance", he supports the War on Drugs. Though he speaks of, with regard to foreign policy, "strength with wisdom & restraint", he's a neocon... that is, pro-war in our futile mid east war.

I guess he'll win over lots of people on that god thing at the end, though.

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

—

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

WOW!

Submitted by LatinsforPaul on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 10:43.

I knew I was not going to vote for Gov. Charlie Christ, who is a McCain Bush lover. But, I think I am going to look into Mark Rubio a little bit more for US Senator of Florida. I wonder what he thinks of Dr. Paul and his views on US Foreign Policy are?

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

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Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

I posted above before seeing yours...

Submitted by BugMan on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 11:02.

Rubio is not our ideal candidate, and in no way is a Ron Paul Republican, but is certainly much better than Crist, who, BTW, you left out Obama as part of his love-list.

I'd vote for him, maybe, but wouldn't do my Ron Paul type efforts for him, for sure unless he changes some of his stances.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

—

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

wow....

Submitted by Wild-Blue on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 10:26.

great speech, what a heart!