Hey NJ DP-er's... does anyone have any info on this 'independent' candidate Daggett?

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I looked into his background briefly and from all I can see, he's just a Republican running as an Indy.

And when I say Republican, I mean a NJ Republican.... you know, the ones who believe in gun control and higher taxes?

I think we lost our best chance of a real change in NJ when Steve Lonegan lost the GOP primary.... but then, did he ever really have a chance?

So is NJ the most f*cked up state in the union or what?

Whenever you have this many people on the dole, is it ever possible to get them to vote to stop refilling the trough?

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Daggett will split the Republican vote, nothing more

He will be rewarded by the Democrats if Corzine holds onto his office.

Christie will switch parties in a year or two, finally being allowed to join the Democratic party after running a lame Republican campaign.

The Democrats sent him packing back in 1996 when he wanted in, they didn't even want him.

Making sense? NJ politics at its best. No matter what, Corzine wins.

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Says he is for "expanding" taxes. And not much else. Of course "conservative" ranters rarely talk about much but money.

However, it is understandable that taxes are the seminal issue, as money is tokens of life force expended, and a person's life is / or ought to be essentially their own.

But they sound like a broken record and people are tuning out.

NJ Star-Ledger Endorses Independent Daggett

There is hope for NJ!

Star-Ledger Spurns Christie, Corzine; Endorses Independent
By MICHAEL CLANCY
Updated 12:54 PM EDT, Mon, Oct 12, 2009

Independent candidate for New Jersey Governor Chris Daggett picked up the weighty endorsement of the Star-Ledger yesterday.

Finally, a third party candidate is getting some serious consideration in the highly corrupt and dysfunctional Garden State.

Independent candidate for New Jersey governor Chris Daggett has picked up the endorsement of the Star-Ledger, the state's largest daily newspaper, in an editorial published Sunday. It cited the need for "radical change" in how state government operates, saying Daggett's election would repudiate the status quo and put "a highly qualified occupant" in the governor's office.

"(Our) decision is less a rejection of Gov. Jon Corzine and Republican Chris Christie than a repudiation of the parties they represent, both of which have forfeited any claim to the trust and confidence of the people of New Jersey," the editorial stated. "They share responsibility for the state's current plight."

The perennially corrupt Garden State can only get healthy by rejecting both Democrats and Republicans, the paper editorialized.

"The lamentable fact is that the two parties are, themselves, little more than narrow special interests," the endorsement said. "Their competition for short-term political and/or monetary gain has jeopardized the state’s long-term economic health and left it with a tarnished national reputation."

Daggett said he appreciated the support.

More:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Star-Ledger-Spurns...

NY Times: Independent (NJ) Candidate Stirs Up the Governor’s....

Race in New Jersey (At least this story is being covered.)

JERSEY CITY — Christopher J. Daggett had the crowd on its feet.

Well, it was a bar, there were not many seats, and the crowd was only about 50 people. But they were devoted Democrats in a bastion of New Jersey’s Democratic machine. And Mr. Daggett, the independent candidate for governor, was winning them over.

While the Democratic governor, Jon S. Corzine, and the Republican candidate, Christopher J. Christie, appear to be turning off voters with nasty ads and personal attacks, Mr. Daggett is turning them on — or at least persuading them to give him a closer look. After he showed up his rivals in the first debate, his campaign is causing concern in both parties. His plan to cut property taxes is getting attention. His poll numbers are climbing. And on Sunday, he won a rousing endorsement from New Jersey’s largest and most influential newspaper, The Star-Ledger of Newark.

Breaking from his wonkish, occasionally witty but mostly sober delivery, Mr. Daggett, 59, is telling audiences it is time to think the unthinkable: that a vote for him might not be wasted.

“It’s like the ’73 Mets,” he says. “Ya gotta believe!”

More here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/nyregion/12daggett.html?_r=2

My impression of Daggett

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is that his platform is basically anti-corruption. Politically, i would say he's a moderate, "conservative" on issues like budget and taxes, but "liberal" on environmental issues.

His main slant however, is cleaning up corruption. Which is definelty endemic in jersey, at every level.

The truth of the matter is, New Jersey has so many laws and regulations, it probably couldn't function without corruption, kind of like the old Soviet Union.

Also, he has no chance of winning. Politics in New Jersey are completely rigged.

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I smell something

fishy. Actually I smell a RAT.

Daggett

is a "former" democrat appointee that is pretty much tasked with Ross Peroting, or Teddy Roosevelting the NJ governor election.

With Corzine polling at 40%, the machine in NJ needs to fool about 15-20% of the electorate so Corzine can get relected with 40% of the vote.

Daggett is the first independent in NJ to ever get any media coverage.

It's really a scam, and after Daggett delivers the goods and splits the ABC vote (Anyone But Corzine) , expect a cushy EPA job from the Democrat leadership.

NJ is the heart of corrupt government, and corrupt politics. No one can do what Daggett is doing (rasing money, media coverage) without the machine.

Meh...so what?

Lonegan isn't the GOP candidate. Christie is a tool, and while I'd prefer him over Corzine (by a hair), it's not much of a difference.

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And when I say Republican, I

And when I say Republican, I mean a NJ Republican.... you know, the ones who believe in gun control and higher taxes?

I'm in NJ and this statement doesn't really make sense to me. I'm in South Jersey, though, so maybe that's the difference. The Republicans I know are not for more gun control and certainly not for more taxes. For the latter I can say that the NJ Republicans are absolutely and most certainly disgusted with taxes in this state.

So is NJ the most f*cked up state in the union or what?

The 2008 Freedom in the 50 States study lists New Jersey second to dead last.

Property taxes are highest in the nation, afaik.

The other day someone here at DP posted a link to some government website where it showed how much out of every tax dollar paid to the federal government comes back to the state. I only skimmed through the chart, but it showed NJ as being #49 or #50 every year since 1981 or so. Our state politicians are pretty much the worst in the country in terms of getting our tax dollars back from the fed gov.

After the markets crashed the state pension plan lost a LOT of money. They were wanting the taxpayers to replace the money they lost. Uh.... the taxpayers ALREADY PAID, but they were wanting us to pay a second time!!!

Speaking of money, how much debt is NJ in? 50 billion or more?

Then how about that FBI sting that nabbed all those NJ politicians.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07...

I'm sure that all states have their problems, but NJ sure seems pretty bad.

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You will know that you have a real candidate if.....

their first actions will be to:

1. make gas self-service and
2. end car inspections.

NJ is a nightmare with no wake up call.

And More Importantly...

3. sell beer at the supermarket

stupid NJ

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yeah, that one got me today

We just moved back from California where you could buy beer anywhere, when we needed a 6-pack tonight after watching the Yankees win the ALDS, we were SOL. Can't even get beer after 10pm. So Lame

If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. - George S. Patton

Actually

I like not pumping my own gas, I wish they still washed my windows like they are supposed to!

If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. - George S. Patton

This guy is legit.

Anybody wanna reach out to him and support him?

I am in Union County, NJ. We really need a governor in office who is on point. NJ is one of the neo-con's strong holds and if we get a good governor it can change everything.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

So far all I have is your assurance that he's "legit"...

From the research I've done, he seems to have been a Republican appointee under Kean which doesn't carry much 'street cred' with me.

I've read his stance on the second amendment and he sounds more leftist/liberal than Republican.

Do you have any specifics to support your 'legit' status?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Its NJ. Everybody is corrupt.

But overall a raise in the independent vote will help the cause in general. As an independent I feel that he is more "mold-able" than other candidates.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

The Star-Ledger Endoreses Daggett

I'm a transplanted New Yorker in NJ now but lost interest in the election when Lonegan didn't get the nod.

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The Star-Ledger today endorses independent candidate Chris Daggett and recommends his election as the next governor of New Jersey.

The newspaper’s decision is less a rejection of Gov. Jon Corzine and Republican Chris Christie than a repudiation of the parties they represent, both of which have forfeited any claim to the trust and confidence of the people of New Jersey. They share responsibility for the state’s current plight.

Only by breaking the hold of the Democratic and Republican mandarins on the governor’s office and putting a rein on their power will the state have any hope for the kind of change needed to halt its downward economic, political and ethical spiral.

New Jersey needs radical change in Trenton. Neither of the major parties is likely to provide it. Daggett’s election would send shock waves through New Jersey’s ossified political system and, we believe, provide a start in a new direction.

It would signal the entrenched leadership of both parties — and the interest groups they regularly represent — that an ill-served and angry electorate demands something better.

The lamentable fact is that the two parties are, themselves, little more than narrow special interests. Their competition for short-term political and/or monetary gain has jeopardized the state’s long-term economic health and left it with a tarnished national reputation...

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More here

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2009/10/star-ledger_en...

Yes, I saw that this morning as well...

When a left-leaning newspaper can endorse a former republican (suddenly 'independent') over either mainstream candidate, it makes one wonder, doesn't it?

Daggett will draw more votes from the Christie camp then the Corzine camp. Perhaps this is just a way of ensuring thier 'golden boy' Jon Corzine's re-election.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Good Point

I didn't realize the Star-Ledger was left-leaning.

I did like that fact that they slammed both establishment parties though... "The lamentable fact is that the two parties are, themselves, little more than narrow special interests".

I find comfort that "lefties" are waking up as we need as many bridges as possible to unite all Americans for true change

They're not

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They're not??? Really?

By what yardstick are you measuring 'left-leaning'?

I'd settle for non-biased! In fact, show me a non-biased, independent MSM news agency and I'll give you a dollar!

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

His commercial was pretty funny

Christie and Corzine stuck on an elevator. I'm interested, but figure like most of the NJ elections, it's a lost cause. I hope someone posts something, hopefully good about him. As of right now I'll go with Christie who wasn't the CEO of Goldman Sachs

"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

My problem with Christie is...

He seems to be little more than an ex-GOP attack dog being rewarded with a governorship. He doesn't seem to have a grasp of what is needed for the job and if his handlers don't put the right words in his mouth, he doesn't know what to say.

Will he be better than Corzine? A well-behaved chimp could do better than Corzine but we're back to the 'lesser of two evils' scenario....

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

im interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMCDuUpxixA
sound like ron for a sec hur.

They all sound great during the campaign....

What's his voting record like?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...