Jesus said "Swear No Oaths"

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Regarding the fight over Loyalty Oaths used by Republican Party of Florida to banish Ron Paul Republicans...

Jesus Sermon on the Mount prohibits taking oaths.

33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. (Matthew 5:33-37 Translation from New International Version)

The Christian Right is a pillar of the party, and they will know this is SERIOUS. They must not leave the party to liberals, but fight to remove the rule.

Here is an interesting libertarian treatise on the history of freedom bound to Jesus command not to swear oaths. http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/jurisdiction.htm

I would add to the discussion that a major reason the Medieval Church made it illegal to publish the bible in the vernacular (English) was an accommodation to the kings who did not want people reading the above words. It would have destroyed their feudal society.

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Read and be freed.

This is a good article.
grant

That's a good article.

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yep

Everyone, read it!
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Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

I was reading this over again

And this part jumped out at me. Remember, the Quakers swore no oaths, thus the crown had no jurisdiction.

"When the colonies opened to migration, the Quakers fled Europe in droves, trying to put as much distance as they could between themselves and crowns. They had a very rational fear of a repeat of the situation. That put a lot of them here, enough that they had a very strong influence on politics. They could have blocked the ratification of the Constitution had they opposed it. Some of their demands were incorporated into it, as were some of their concessions, in balance to those demands. Their most obvious influence found in the Constitution is the definition of treason, the only crime defined in that document. Treason here is half of what can be committed under a crown. In the United States treason may only arise out of an (overt) ACTION. A refusal to perform an action at the command of the government is not a treason, hence, NOT A CRIME. You can find that restated in the Bill of Rights, where the territorial jurisdiction of the courts to try a criminal act is limited to the place wherein the crime shall have been COMMITTED. A refusal or failure is not an act "committed" - it’s the opposite, an act "omitted." In this nation "doing nothing" can’t be criminal, even when someone claims the power to command you do something. That concept in place, the new government would have lasted about three years. You see, if it were not a crime to fail to do something, then the officers of that government would have done NOTHING - save to draw their pay. That truth forced the Quakers to a concession.

Anyone holding a government job would need be sworn (or affirmed) to support the Constitution. That Constitution enabled the Congress to enact laws necessary and proper to control the powers vested in these people. Those laws would establish their duties. Should such an official "fail" to perform his lawful duties, he’d evidence in that omission that his oath was false. To swear a false oath is an ACTION. Thus, the punishments for failures would exist under the concept of perjury, not treason. But that was only regarding persons under oath of office, who were in office only by their oaths. And that’s still the situation. It’s just that the government has very cleverly obscured that fact so that the average man will pay it a rent, a tax on income. As you probably know, the first use of income tax here came well in advance of the 16th amendment. That tax was NEARLY abolished by a late 19th century Supreme Court decision. The problem was that the tax wasn’t apportioned, and couldn’t be apportioned, that because of the fact that it rested on the income of each person earning it, rather than an up-front total, divided and meted out to the several States according to the census. But the income tax wasn’t absolutely abolished. The court listed a solitary exception. The incomes of federal officers, derived as a benefit of office, could be so taxed. You could call that a "kick back" or even a "return." Essentially, the court said that what Congress gives, it can demand back. As that wouldn’t be income derived within a State, the rule of apportionment didn’t apply. Make sense? "

You know what...just read the whole thing. It's great.
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Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

I don't consider any of the neocon candidates

in the Republican party to be Republican. So Steele is actually sealing themselves against themselves. Ron Paul is the true Republican. They need to stop and read their platform.

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Has anyone here not read this yet? If you haven't, do it now and let us know what you think.
Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

It not a matter of not

It not a matter of not taking any oaths or "swearing" your word. Your word should always be your bond, no matter what. That's the point of the message. In otherwords, by virtue of taking an oath or swearing does not mean that you should be any less likely of saying something false breaking a commitment.

Classic example of religion teaching Natural Law.

Great article.

Fantastic.
grant

I think this is wrong.

Ruling by prayer
The passage where Jesus talks about oaths or vows is in Matthew 5:33-37. If Jesus was teaching that no vows should be made, He would have been contradicting Old Testament Law and His words later recorded in chapter 23 of Matthew. In verses 16-22, He corrects the false teaching of the Pharisees that some vows are valid and some are invalid. All vows are to be taken seriously. For example, if you swear by heaven, you are swearing by God (verse 22). Also, look at Deuteronomy 6:13, 10:20, and Jeremiah 12:16. In these verses, His people were taught to swear by God's name. For example, in Jeremiah 12:16, it says, "Then it will come about that if they (neighboring Gentile nations) will really learn the ways of My people (Israel), to swear by My name, 'As YHWH lives,' even as they taught My people to swear by Baal, then they will be built up in the midst of my people." So, it seems YHWH (translated "the LORD" in most of our translations) wanted oaths to be sworn in His name (YHWH). That brings us back to Matthew 5. Is Jesus contradicting all this in verses 33-37? It would seem so if these verses are correctly translated. However, there is a Hebrew translation of Matthew preserved by a 14th Century Jew named Shem-Tov Ibn Shaprut. This manuscript has verses 34 and 37 written as follows. Verse 34: "But I say to you, do not swear falsely, either by by heaven, for it is the throne of God . . . ." Verse 37: "But let your statement be, 'Yes, yes', or 'No, no;' and anything added to Torah is evil." For more information on this translation and seeming contradictions, I can heartily recommend the book, The Hebrew Yeshua vs The Greek Jesus, by Nehemia Gordon, a 100-page paperback published by Hilkiah Press.

Ruling by prayer

Keep seeking the true name

Of The MOST HIGH. It is NOT YHWH. YHWH is still endorsed by the catholic church! The tetragrammaton has four vowels not 2. I believe the correct name is YAHUWAH, sounded out as YA-HOO-AH. "Jesus" Is Greek?latin translation. It's NOT a HEBREW NAME. There wasn't even the letter J in the english alphabet or in the Bible UNTIL 500yrs ago! So where do they get it from? My friends the decievers have been hard at work. Is it a coincidence that a particular search engine controlled by the bloodline makes sure, everytime you do a search, you blaspheme The CREATOR HOLY NAME! By not finishing it! NO it's not a coincidence folks. People had better wake up and realize that these decievers have nothing to lose, as they have lost their estate in heaven, and they want to take as many with us as they can! They know their time is short! Of course the changed The CREATOR HOLY NAME. There is only one name by which you will be saved. It is written! You must get it RIGHT. Do you think the lies stop with politics?

Here are two different men preaching on the true name of the CREATOR.It's the most important thing you could learn, right next to comming out of the beast.

Watch every video you can on both of their channels. Your eyes will be opened. Take these names and do more searches. Weed out all the lies. You will start to forget about politics. None of this political stuff matters. It is out of our control. You will soon understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkWmZq1FR8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CefLK4RJ9kY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/user/Called2bHoly

Your quoting the old law, leave it, use a new system of freedom!

I don't think his statement to not take oaths contradicts anything. Taking an oath is part of the law, that is true, the law of Moses. But it certainly isn't one of the ten commandments.
What is better, to take an oath and keep it, or take no oath and do the right thing?
Like the Sabbath, it was made for men, not made for men to be enslaved. For this reason Jesus was arrested, for performing miracles on the Sabbath, it enraged the teachers of the law to see that Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, what hypocrisy.
Of course the teachers of the law want us to take oaths, because it enslaves us to their judgement. It gives them jurisdiction over us.
Jesus upheld the law of Moses, but he didn't agree with every law that Moses made, for one he did not agree with Moses' law of giving divorce papers, and if you read the bible you know that it is written that many laws were invented that were not the will of God.
But that said, it must be understood that Jesus' statement does not make it a sin to take an oath, it is just wise counsel, for what good does taking an oath serve? If you take an oath to government you are under governmental jurisdiction.
If you take an oath to God to do something that is not a commandment and you don't keep your oath, you will be held in judgement for your oath, so why do such a thing? God does not need your oath. Instead, just do what God says, and follow his way, without and oath and as such you are a free man who submits to God's will freely, a brother of Christ and not bound as is a slave. A slave who does what is right is just doing his duty, a free man who does what is right is righteous.
Jesus set you free, so don't give it up.
Besides, rIghteous men don't need to take oaths and the unrighteous won't keep them anyways.
Remember, taking an oath binds a man, for which he is no longer free.
Why take an oath, and not just do the right thing in the first place?
grant

I think this is wrong.

Ruling by prayer
Sorry. I guess I did not explain this clearly enough. Jesus is not contradicting the Old Testament or His own words. I was trying to show this. If you look at the Old Testament verses I listed that teach "swearing" and Jesus' teaching in Matthew 5 "to make no oath," most of us would consider Jesus to be teaching something new or contradictory. I was trying to show how Jesus was not teaching something new or contradictory. I am of the opinion that there are no contradictions in God's words to us. It seems that many people do find contradictions in their translations of the Bible, but these contradictions are usually easily reconciled by getting more information. This information is often right there in the context of the verses under question. For example, you said Jesus did not agree with Moses' law of giving divorce papers. If you look up that exchange between Jesus and the Pharisees on this issue, Matthew 19:3-12, Jesus says the divorce laws were given " . . . because of your hardness of heart . . . ." Divorce certificates did not make divorce acceptable in God's sight. He says, even when obtaining a divorce certificate, the sin of adultery was being committed upon remarriage (verse 9). We do have common ground on your statement that many laws were invented that were not the will of God. Jesus was constantly showing the Pharisees that they were breaking God's law with their own traditions (Mark 7:13). Is this not our common experience today? Many of the laws passed by our governments are unconstitutional. "We the people" are suffering as a result. I believe it is the same with God's law. For example, if we divorce our mate, there is suffering. If we break any of the commandments, we suffer. There is no getting around it. In my opinion, our country's greatest problem is that Christians are unfaithful to what they profess. We are like the Pharisees of old. There is no excuse for what we have done. I won't elaborate. Everyone already knows how far we fall short. But, not everyone sees a link between the failure of American Christianity and the sickness of this nation. *********

Ruling by prayer

Lord, have mercy.

It is this reason that I ask of you to pray for me as I will pray for you.

RON PAUL PHONE FROM HOME
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Agree!

"Christians are unfaithful to what they profess".
grant

I see thru this post...it's meant to devalue "Oath Keepers" !!!

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If you trust the Oath takers, go for it.

What's keeping them from keeping their oath? Do they need a rally? I'd like to see some action by the Oath takers and not just talk. Obama is an oath taker, perhaps he needs to join as well. It doesn't do any good if only a few are kept to their oath.
grant

This is a really good

This is a really good article/essay. Very much worth everyone's time to read.

wow

I read this 3 days ago and my head is still spinning. If you call yourself a christian, you have to read this.

Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

You too...

Even if a person is not a Christian, this is a fantastic tool for our movement.
grant

I agree

Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

People should get past the

People should get past the religion thing and read the article, it is one of the best articles I have ever read. I recommend it to everyone I know.
Remember just because Jesus said it doesn't make it exclusively his, this principle is taught in many other religions as well.
It's basically just a good all around rule. Just because someone puts a religious twist on things doesn't mean that the info is no good, come on, we're smarter than that.

Aren't we??

Agree!

It's the message that's important...
grant

Many are missing a great posted article.

It's amazing that many of the comments here are not even about the article that the poster presents. It seems that because the post has the name Jesus in it that it automatically leads to a debate about Religion. I suggest people lay their prejudice aside and read the article. It is very enlightening.
grant

Strong bumb.

The article above is one of the most powerful I have ever read here at Daily Paul. It is a long paper but worth reading to the end, even for those who don't like Jesus.
grant

"...drop the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States a short letter, cc it to the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. Explain that you never realized that the fine print on the bottom of all income tax forms meant that you were claiming to be "under oath" a perjury of which might be "twice" penalized. Explain that you’ve never sworn such an oath and that for reasons of conscience, you never will. You made this mistake on every tax form you’d ever signed. But now that you understand the words, you’ll most certainly not make that mistake again! That’ll be the end of any possibility that you’ll ever be charged with "willful failure to file." Too simple? No, it’s only as simple as it’s supposed to be. Jurisdiction (oath spoken) is a pretty simple matter. Either you are subject to jurisdiction, by having really sworn an oath, or you are not."

I'm thinking about this

I'm guessing the US will still consider me to be under their jurisdiction, but at least my conscience would be clear. Hmmm

Free yourself.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

Save the next generation.

But we can teach our children not to come under jurisdiction. We may never be free, but they may have a chance.
grant

What about "Oath Keepers"?

And what about our beloved military, they take an oath to defend the constitution. Do you think they are in violation of their religious precepts.

Promise Keepers

was already taken. It's what is in your heart my friend. I didn't take an oath when I entered the USMC, just as I don't take an oath in court. But I do promise.

Marines

don't take an oath?????

Be a man of your word.

The difference between taking an oath and just making a plain affirmation is the difference between hiding behind the law and being a man of your word.
grant