rhino: For all the Traficant supporters out there
Submitted by obscure titles on Thu, 10/15/2009 - 16:29
Here is a search result from the local Youngstown newspaper.
http://www.vindy.com/search/?q=Traficant&all=on&author=&from...
Have at it.
You are not going to like what you see.
God Bless
BeaReady also posted some good info below ...
http://www.ohiofreedom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3715&highl...
I can't believe that this sophisticated crowd is going to fall for this clown, hook, line, and sinker.
At worst this guy has been accused of "getting rid" of his opponents.
At best, he is a populist nazi with the same anti-semitic leanings as the original nazis.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Bravo
Well done.
You're an uninformed jackass
Who the hell are you to call Traficant an anti-semite? Because you did some search on Vindy.com? The fact that the establishment drummed up charges to put Traficant away should make you curious enough to research the reality of the situation, and not garbage from the papers. The media was NEVER a friend of Traficant's, and go figure--they're controlled by the same folks that rock the crap out of our government--AIPAC!
Traficant is not anywhere near a Nazi, and the reason that Nazism took hold so easily in Germany was due to the fact that the bankers that inflated the shit out of their currency and made it worthless were predominantly Jewish (as they are today). That's simply a fact, and if you want to call someone a racist for stating the facts, then I suggest you read the Talmud, the text held most dear by the Jews, and learn what they think of you, the goyim.
Don't accuse anyone of racism when you, yourself, are the accusatory, uneducated, and ignorant bigot. Traficant has never slandered Jews, he's only gone after AIPAC and their ball-grip on our government.
4 new representatives isnt
4 new representatives isnt going to do a damn thing! So anybody who supports the core beliefs of freedom and the constitution needs the support. we need traficant even if some people think hes bad for us
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All that really matters is we have a very motivated, very smart and very tough veteran of Congress who shares the same core Constitutional beliefs regarding the Fed, the IRS, foriegn policy and many domestic policies and he is ready to get back in the ring!
All hands in
We have to remember that any Third Party/Independent success will heavily depend on the unification of any and all Constitutionally based parties,organizations and movements.
Yes! I agree!
We need to get out of the 100%... all or nothing, right, left paradigm box!!
Let's make strides where we can!
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
I'm honestly focusing on
I'm honestly focusing on more important things but having traficant in office rather than a neocon is a positive.
If you would prefer a neocon who is for big banks, globalization and the demoralization of our country, continue on and keep putting down those who may be bringing this movement some help.
In my opinion, if we continue to discredit every single thing that isn't fully on board with our movement, we will get no where. That's one reason we have such an image that people think is extreme (aside from the propaganda and programming people have been spoon-fed throughout their lives). We need to support those who bring may stand up and fight against corruptness and help bring their ideals closer to ours.
Similar to how to psychopaths are influenced by big business, power and greed. Sure they may be born with a slight psychopathic traits, but being involved with a system that was created by psychopaths brings them closer to what the true image of that system is (greed, power, elitism).
"Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?" - Adam Weishaupt
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"One man with courage is a majority." ~ Andrew Jackson
this thread is absurd
it's already established that conservatives don't agree with liberals on a lot of policies.
we can make the same list out of mckinney, nader, gravel, kucinich, or any other liberal we've generally accepted around here. using this as a measuring device, half of Republicans would have an appalling voting record, too.
So what's the point?
even though i disagree with a lot of them, i would rather have nader, kucinich, and traficant in office over half of the status-quo Democrats and Republicans currently residing in Congress. That is the point of electing populists in the first place.
Give us a break, rhino. And stop starting every one of your stupid threads with "Rhino:"
Nobody cares.
Grouping Traficant into the same group as ...
DK and RN really says more about you than anything else.
Do me a favor ....
Hit the link ...
And read a bit ...
This is the local newspaper.
I know, take it with a grain of salt, it is part of the MSM ...
but just read some of those articles ....
And then do some more research ...
and more ....
This whore is not even a pretty whore.
It is so obvious what he is.
Why can you not see this?
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
i have read the links
have you?
please state which specific one is the most offensive to you.
merely telling me to go research him is a contradiction to your thread's existence in the first place.
troy~ your point has been duly noted
and expressed in further detail several times below in this thread. You will not receive a straight answer from Rhino. Just FYI! Good try, though!
"merely telling me to go research him is a contradiction to your thread's existence in the first place"
Yep, But he will only keep throwing out straw man BS, opinion links and insults as a reply. Trust me... he is a waste of time to try and reason with.
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I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
That is because I can put a link to ...
Ron Paul's website that quotes Ron saying he does not support Trafficant ...
And it would be criticized simply because I posted it.
If people want to support the little nazi go right ahead.
I was merely trying to show that he is not endorsed by dp, by rp, or by rhino.
Take it for what it is worth.
If you do not like it, too bad.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Since when do YOU speak for the DP?
Now that is truly funny!! LMAO!!
It's hard for you to speak for long without your usual 'tourettes syndrome' showing up...hmmm...lets see... it goes like this :
"Bigot, Racist, Nazi, Whore, Anti-Semite" ( I may have left a few out..but those are your most common insults )
Thats your usual 'tourettes speak' litany Rhino and its quite insulting, ignorant and obnoxious! If I search any of those words on Daily Paul YOUR name comes up at least a 100 times associated with those words.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"If people want to support the little nazi go right ahead."
Funny that YOU are the one talking about "supporting Nazis".
You have said many times that you are a "proud Catholic".
The Catholic Church was instrumental in putting the Nazis into power and then helping the war criminals escape ( "the rat line" ) after the war.
German Church admits aiding Nazis
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7337748.stm
The following photos provide a pictorial glimpse of Hitler, how his Nazis mixed religion with government, and the support for Hitler by the Protestant and Catholic Churches in Germany
http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
So are you guilty by association? Or was that in the past and should be forgotten about?
Looks to me like the Catholic Church did more to harm the Jews, than Trafficant did. Kind of hypocritical.....even for your typical level of hypocrisy.
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Traficant...
...is a true, patriotic American, and if being a Constitutional American means being a racist, then sign me up.
Traficant has more cahoneys than RP, and talks about things that NOBODY in Congress dares bring to the public (such as his bankruptcy speech, taking the DoJ head-on, his famous two-minute speeches that said more than others' two-hour speeches...).
It's well-known that the local paper slammed Traficant, just as the local paper slams RP. But hey guys, let's use double-standards hear. Let's leave the Galveston paper alone when it tears apart RP since they're just anti-Constitutional and full of shit, but let's take the local paper for Traficant at its word because they're Constitutional-loving, truth speaking journalists.
Can someone answer me this? Why does Rhino think he's important on this site? I've been here at least as long as this goof, and I've never seen somebody talk so much out of their ass to try to build himself up as something more than he is--just another poster.
Rhino, whatever happened to your inside establishment buddies loaded with dough that were going to support Rand once he took the lead on Trey? Looks like they really came out in droves for the money bomb yesterday with an average donation of $65 between 4000 people.
This guy is, and always has been, full of it.
From My Take
I went to the End the Fed Cleveland rally where he spoke. He says all of the keywords everyone knows. Ending the Federal Reserve and ending the Federal Income Tax. But then he comes along and suggests a VAT of 22.5% of some horse pie number.
People need to realize, and many here do thank God, that the paper money game is greatly enhance, no completed supported, by the slavery of our Federal Government taxing its people and those same people's subsequent complete and utter slavery.
Don't fall for the bait and switch. I sure as hell didn't.
Trafficant Is Fun, But. . .
that's about it. He's definitely independent, and frequently right. The trouble is, he's often wrong, and he doesn't seem to have a grasp of the big picture. If he could be brought up to speed on economics, banking, the Constitution etc., he could be an ally. But for now, he's only an amusement.
We need them to stop confiscating our money in any manner. All tyranny flows from that.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
The VAT is one of those things I do not find appealing.
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It's pretty clear that most of you have been following politics
for a very short period of time. I remember Congressman Traficant. Agreeing with Rhino is never easy, but I do. Traficant is fooling you.
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I don't want to be fooled.
I didn't follow Traficant back then. 99.9% of what I know about him has been what I've learned since his release from prison, most of which looks appealing.
Rhino said he has documentation to support his accusations and that it's in the link in his OP.
But if rhino really wants people to take him seriously, he should support his accusations instead of posting some link that has pages and pages filled with links to a gazillion stories and expecting people to sift through them to find what he's talking about.
Thanks for the warning, though, Mike. I'll keep my radar up.
Do you mean like ...
find a site that posts everything negative about him and find the articles that I have saved and link to them.
That is completely crap Jiminy.
I gave you an unabridged link to the local newspaper that chronacled his history.
Read it or not.
Support him or not.
I really do not care.
I posted the link, have at it, or not.
I am not going to cherry pick negative articles and links so that I can be blamed for spreading propoganda.
This arguement that you make is completely bogus and a waste of time.
I hope you and the rest of you go door to door for Traficant.
The true supporters of Traficant will be shown for who they are through the passage of time, not from me.
Hell, I have done more here to win support for him than any of the trolling feaks here that are ginning up support for him here.
You should thank me, not tell me to shut up.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
I did not ask you to shut up, rhino.
I just want you to post whatever it is that makes you think Traficant is a populist nazi with anti-semitic leanings who votes on policy decisions based on hate and tyranny.
Quote something that supports your accusations and provide the link. That link you provided has 50 pages, each filled with stories.
Narrow it down to what supports the accusations you made. That's all I'm asking.
Not sure what you are upset about. You are the one who was wondering why people are whining about you. Perhaps if you offer some support for your accusations, people might do a little less whining. (note- That applies outside the Traficant discussion as well.)
O.K. ... I have a deal for you ...
If I post the link that says exactly what I have stated ...
will you, not only not support Traficant, but will you hate him, and will you campaign against him?
If you say absolutely, then I will no longer respond to you except to post the link. You will no longer exist in my book.
This is bogus Cricket.
I have done my research.
If I post it here, I will be refuted.
I am not asking you to do anything.
I have posted the link.
It has the complete history of Traficant.
Ignore it, or read it.
Just stop being in denial.
Either support him or not.
It is up to you.
I am not going to narrow it down for the less capable, like yourself it seems.
And I am not going to narrow it down so that a target can be posted.
And I am not going to narrow it down for the lazy butts, they aren't going to vote anyways.
Traficant is a liar, a whore, a criminal, a racist, a bigot, and possibly a murderer.
You know where I stand, where do you stand?
On the fence?
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Still playing the role of the Political Correctness Police,
eh, Rhino?
Sorry, but your lame attempts at using PC to influence opinions doesn't seem to be taking hold.
PC is so "90s". Hah!
You make me laugh.
Lazy butts?
It seems YOU are the lazy one here, rhino. You have made accusations and you should offer support for them. You are the one wondering below why people are whining about you. I'm trying to tell you some of the reason why.
As to whether anyone refutes what you post, no one that I've seen yet has asked you to prove whether your accusations are true, but just to at least offer support for your accusations.
You have a bad habit of labeling and accusing without offering any real support. There is a big difference between having opinions or suspicions and labeling and accusing. The latter needs a bit more behind it.
If there are things that bother me about Traficant, I will not be supporting him. It's that simple. This isn't about making a deal. You made bold accusations and you need to support them...or stop making them.
You said you have documentation to support your accusations and that it's in the link in the OP. Fine, THEN POST IT.
Not sure why you are throwing a fit here, rhino...or why you are being mean again. :(
Blah! Blah! Blah! Typical for you!
I KNOW why you do not like Traficant...and whatever you profess as the reason is not the REAL reason. So throw out all your 'straw man' BS Rhino and your BS OPINION links. Traficant is not in align with the movement 100% but neither are YOU! He is outspoken and has declared to speak the truth on an issue that it is your job to negate ..I know it and YOU know it!
PS. Stop calling everyone whores,bigots and racists that disagree with you! I am sick of it and your ignorant, insulting, disingenuous, divisive agenda here!
Oh and also do not ever offer to extend your fake hand to me because the hand you ever extend will be to help you off the pavement after I kick your ass!
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
I'm about to extend my hand in his direction...
...and give him a good spanking.
What is the REAL reason?
I am just curious.
Now you have accusations that you have to prove.
Now, can we get back to Traficant?
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
No, Mr., YOU have accusations
YOU need to prove...so do it... or STFU already! Usually you are only comic relief to me ..as I have been here two years and you are not worthy of the attention you so seek! I've just had enough... especially when I saw what you did to Jiminy..who is much more patient, forgiving and more naive with you ... which you take full advantage of! Shame on you.
You are no more than a comedy to me on here ..I have said this before but I have digressed and will resume you now to your comedic status only.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd