Updated 10/8/09: Cop attempts to intimidate Open Carry Gun Owner, Fails
Update 10/8/09
Greensboro Police Are At It Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flg7rQFYFrg
and
Greensboro Police Are at it Again
http://www.operationsaveamerica.org/667.htm
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From jrpj1983 on YouTube
I was standing on the corner of the street where an abortion clinic is "peaceably assembling" (NOT protesting). Two GPOs came up and were harassing one of the other people assembled. I walked up with phone out recording, when they notice I was open carrying (Smith & Wesson M&P .40).
I found out that after I left (I left maybe 45 mins AFTER this video) a detective came looking for me. Next weekend should be interesting.
Greensboro Officer Harassment at Abortion Clinic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWhsF9I9lOc
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Open Carry
That cop is out of uniform by not wearing his hat!
that was simply put "Awesome".....
The officer was in the wrong to ask for his driver's license, the guy was not driving. Open carry from what I understand in that state does not require a driver's license either....I personally obey the laws of the land, but I also believe that the officials should as well, they are not above the law, nor are they above the citizens that pay their salaries if the individuals are law-abiding citizens period.
jrpj had a very cool head in that
confrontation. I'm glad it went so well. Live streaming onto YouTube is a very good precaution.
Are cops starting to fear the video camera?
and you-tube? Regardless if they get official discipline, they will get shunned by the people who see their actions online, maybe people will stop supplying retail merchandise and service to these unconstitutional and corrupt law enforcement officers.
Gun Laws of NC???
I did come across this link regarding gun bylaws of NC
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_nc.htm
I don't know about NC
But I think it is reasonable for a police officer to ask to see a carry permit, if he sees a handgun. That's just procedure.
A permit to do anything
is permission to engage in a granted and revocable privilege.
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Excuse me??? There was no
Excuse me??? There was no permit required to carry a handgun in his state and the cop new it. Not to mention none required lawfully in the entire country. So yes it was unreasonable and the cop was trying to intimidate him when he had no lawful reason to do so.
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AS I SAID...
"I don't know about NC."
Sheesh.
Other states do require them.
The Cops
are so tough when they're the only ones armed, but get very nervous when they are not.
Reminds me of an episode of Reno 911
..where a cop gets a report and nervously says, "There's two of them and three of us? Oh, I don't like these numbers!"
:-)
Lol I love that show
Good for this guy.
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I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...
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A brown-shirt jack-booted government thug Gestapo wannabe
Another one of the 'trained' brown-shirt jack-booted government thug Gestapo wannabes who would make Hitler green with envy. Don't get me wrong, I love ALL of our armed forces (I'm a highly decorated Vietnam vet), I love the CIA, the DIA, the FBI and the NSA and others but, ALL local and state policing should be done by CITIZEN militias. This is precisely what happens when BIG governments are allowed to go unchecked, run wild and fester. ALL 'Public Employee Unions' must be banned and dismantled. Our founding fathers warned us about BIG governmentS, Federal, state and LOCAL.
Liberty NOT Tyranny,
JJ
Liberty NOT Tyranny,
JJ
shuleba..
as a citizen I need to know that you are not a threat to me and my family. So, you wouldn't mind if I have a cop come to your house and make sure you have no kiddie porn....after all that could be a threat to my children. After all, if you have nothing to hide..then you shouldn't mind.
And since we all want to be safe....You wouldn't mind if I search your vehicle any time I feel threatened by you...after all, you might have a :weapon" such as a hammer, tire tool, screwdriver,or some other tool that could be weaponized. Did you know that I can kill you with a pencil? A pencil can be a dangerous weapon.
Also, the next time you have a party.you should not mind if I send the cops over to check ID's to make sure you are not serving minors...after all i do need to feel secure that you do not liquor up some kid that may operate a vehicle and put me or my family in danger.
I noticed shulba, that you are a registered member of the Daily Paul...clearly an anti-government operation....known to be a place where domestic terrorist sporting Ron Paul bumper stickers hang out. You may be a danger to my family..so You wouldn't mind if I send Janet Napolitano's boys out to your home to go through your papers and effects to make sure you are not a threat...I am sure you would not mind...I mean if you have no contraband..you should not mind should you? after all..we just want to be safe.
Also, an anonymous caller just reported seeing a suspicious character walking near your home and he was smoking something..could be a cigarette..but may have been something illegal. The cops have not been able to spot him but he was last seen near your house...so you wouldn't mind if the cops search your home to make sure you are not hiding a potential criminal...would you? Of course not...because you just wanna make sure we are all safe....
*This last scenario happened to me...I refused to let them search...YOU would have given up your rights...I am sure.
Need I go on?
Some people will never get......get it!
You're way off topic! Rondzaman!
Showing your gun permit to an officer of the law when requested on a public street for carrying an open weapon is not an act of suppliance. It is a responsible thing to do. You are not giving up your 2nd amendment right by doing so. What is the agenda as shown in the video for openly carrying a weapon on a public street if it is not to provoke some sort of confrontation for NO reason? My fear is this mindset is going to promote martial law faster than people will be properly ready. Surely there's a smarter way of handling this?
I dont carry papers.
As it is my right to keep and bear arms and it shall not be infringed upon. I carry EVERYWHERE, 24/7/365. The Constitution protects my rights, which are inherent to me from birth, from the government. What is my agenda? To secure those around me and the ones I love from harm. The Constitution is the Law, any statute not in agreement with the Law is an invalid. Go be scared somewhere else.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy
"You are not giving up your 2nd amendment right by doing so..."
That's correct. You're giving up your 2nd amendment rights when you seek permission to exercise that right.
The moment you believe that you are required to have a license to exercise a right, you have in fact given up that right in favor of a 'privilege' granted by the government.
As I understand from the story as it is told here, there is no 'permit' required for someone to carry openly. Unfortunately, this is the harassment you will be subjected to if you try to exercise your right. The police know full well that there is no permit required. Whether they are responding to a call or not, if the subject is not conducting himself in a 'criminal' manner, then there is no need to pursue the matter any further.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Oh yes, show the officer your papers! Obey!
I wonder how many people heard those words before they were carted away. I wonder how many people were conditioned to believe that they simply must show their papers upon demand. I wonder how many people like you there were telling others to simply show their papers and everything would be just fine.
As a citizen , I need to
As a citizen , I need to feel safe. Surely the police officer or anybody for that matter, should have the right to ask for and view the permit authorizing you to carry a weapon. Otherwise why are you given one? For all we know you are a crazy at a demonstration or an irresponsible someone who has no training or knowledge about handling firearms. The permit is supposed to authenticate you. Why would you not show this to the officer? (who needs to learn how to talk to people more respectfully)
May I see your "authentication" to post on this forum?
sound ridiculous? really? Maybe you should think about that.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy
shuleba, if you don't "feel" safe,
perhaps you should arm yourself.
It is safe for no one if only the government and its minions are armed, for then tyranny is guaranteed. History has proven this beyond question.
As a citizen, I need to feel safe?
You are not given a permit, you must pay for it. Not because you don't have the natural right to arm yourself, but because the government uses that permit as a revenue enhancement tool and a control tool.
There are people all over the country waking up to the fact that we have been lied to the last 100 years plus. All these phony rules, taxes, regulations, that we have allowed to enslave us in the name of "feeling safe" are not and were not needed.
Be one of them. Wake up to owning yourself, and not "feeling" that the government or you are entitled to mind that affairs of another, because it makes you feel safe.
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Agree
Well, not the 'anybody' part, but I do agree that the police officer can ask to see a permit - if the state requires it. I don't know about NC law, so someone who lives there will have to fill in the facts.
It's very hard to get a carry permit in some states. New York is one, Massachusetts is another. Getting a carry permit in NYC is next to impossible.
no permit needed
to open carry in most states.
No need to produce ID unless you are charged with breaking the law.
I think that is true in the Southwest
I knew a gal who lived in Arizona, and she used to carry a pistol to shoot rattlesnakes in the desert. A lot of people carry in the Southwest and Texas. But once you get up north, things change.
shulebe.. I never asked a stupid cop for safe feelings
They certainly did noting to catch the guy that put a gun to my head and robbed me 20 years ago. No worthless cop has any right to molest me.
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It's not anyone else's
responsibility to make you 'feel safe'. What you personally feel should be, doesn't make it law.
Just because you want to 'assume' someone may be a 'crazy' who has no firearms training, doesn't mean you have the 'right' to demand he/she show you a permit.
Apparently his supervisor disagrees with anyone on this thread who disagrees, because if he had agreed with the Officer, the Officer would have went back and 'demanded' he show him some ID, instead, he gets his hamburger eating ass back in his Sonic cruiser, and drives off into the sunset.
Trust me, if this cop had a leg to stand on, he would have, and would have with AUTHORITY!
He was a jerk, and got put in his place by a citizen. This video was a true inspiration.