The Meltdown Of The U.S. Dollar Has Begun… So What Are We Going To Do About It?

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In my years working in the Liberty Movement, and other movements which support U.S. sovereignty, exposure of the private Federal Reserve, and opposition to globalism, I have heard many criticisms. Often, those criticisms have faded as the warnings we put forth on the economy and the state of American society are proven correct, however, one nagging debate point is still used quite often by cynics and skeptics whose naïve knee-jerk reactions have only driven our movement forward into the mainstream; if we are “so certain” that a monetary collapse is being deliberately engineered, then when are we going to offer a solution, instead of simply pointing out the overwhelming nature of the problem?

While the question appears rational, its intent is driven by an overall ignorance of the big picture. Offering up specific solutions to a problem so fluid and complex is a dangerous business, especially when the nature of the problem could transform at a moment’s notice. However, as we near a crossroads in the progression of world events, especially pertaining to the U.S. dollar, it does seem that now more than ever people are waiting to see if the Liberty Movement is all web chatter and Youtube videos, or if we are going to take more tangible action in the real world. I believe now, before the second phase of the collapse rolls into full motion, we must begin taking such actions, and I believe we must start with that which we are most absolutely certain...........

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Nothing.

Simple.

"We" aren't going to do anything.

I don't mean to sound glib but I wonder why HR 1207 is being held up.

Think of the PTB (Powers That Be) and how they really do control, with an iron fist, everything but our thoughts. They love it and have no intention of giving up POWER.

We're optimistic....that's for sure, and we have plenty of enthusiasm.

Honestly, without a national Christian reformation we're going nowhere fast. Our founders understood that and appealed to Heaven.

We've done nothing like that.

So then your answer is nihilism....?

That's the last strategy we should adopt............

Read the article. There are plenty of things we can do to protect against a collapse.

One of the things that chaps me

is the fact that my dad was a railroad retiree. Before he retired the fed govt took over railroad retirement. Now all the money he had in investment type railroad accounts comes out as essentially social security. It is doled out to my mother at a measly amount every month and there was a substantial amount of money there when he retired. To cut to the chase, once she passes the payments stop, that's it...The rest goes God knows where..This is the worlds biggest theft. If your smart just stop withholding , file your UCC-1 and get the hell out of this system, put your money in a jar and bury it in the backyard. Hit these bastards where they live, don't allow them to steal your money, because they are.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Just a dumb bell moment

Quit circulating your funds into the hands of progressives..withdraw your investment funds from progressive internationalists' products..Invest in America & those who actually support American ideals...The progressives may have the assets but Cash is king in this market...
Liquify..Of course you will not do this because it will hurt too much...
So there is no fix.
A sure way to counter the printing of notes is to take other notes out of circulation..of course that hurts your self interests..It's a stand off.
This is the reason they want your savings ..It would build back the value of the notes in their possession..Alas you have the reason for healthcare reform..Gov't takes in & destroys notes not used ..You pay in & get no return, just like what you already paid in & will not live to get back.
Of course I am only thinking out loud, I'm a nobody at this game.
Cash Flow = Circulation , your main stay of a healthy economy that has been robbed from America.

nothing you can do...

nothing you can do... exchange dollars for gold or silver.. I do not trust any other fiat currency.. wether it be euros, yuan etc.... gold and silver have always been money and they always will be...

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

You think people will

be looking for gold when the shtf? No. They will be looking for food, and anything that allows them to escape from this horrible reality. Food, ammo, medicine, booze, ect. These things are the new currency. I would say a bullet would be worth gold in the near future.

Watch the new Gerald Celente video.


Celente's predictions are dire, especially about the dollar, and how its fall will not only bring down the U.S. but will stagger the rest of the world.

When asked for advice, he said he didn't give it per se, but said what he does is to invest on gold, dollars and euros. If the dollar continues to tank, then other currencies can be a better hedge against losing everything. (I am extrapolating a little from what he said.

http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=7886

I have posted this before, but if you have money (savings, stocks, etc) then open an account in foreign currencies. Everbank.com or HSBC, or other places online. You will have to do some paperwork, but it will help you to save what you have.

Owning physical gold is an excellent hedge for the long term, but is useless if you need to buy a loaf of bread.

You are right, owning gold is nearly useless to buy bread.

That is why the Founders adopted a dollar standard which was a silver coin, and then ordered that fractional silver coins be minted. Gold was minted as a store of wealth and for larger ticket purchases. Silver was to be the nation's unit of account and intended to continue to be used for everyday commerce since the dollar were already the most prevalent money used in the colonies.

A loaf of bread can easily be had for a dime, or about 1.5 FRNs. (a dime being a tenth of a dollar. A dollar is 371 4/16 grains of silver or about .7734 of a troy ounce) That equal amount of gold would be impractical to coin or fabricate for commerce.

Leave silver dimes for tips

Give a gift of value and start circulating a sound money.

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

Best advice.

Get rid of your FRNs and trade your gold.

Trade your gold for what?

What do you mean by that?

Stock up on the 3B's

Beans, bullets, band-aids

ok ...

Beans, check!
Bullets, check... lol.. CHECK!
Band-Aids .... hmmm .. nope. But I do got some toilet paper, superglue and duct tape. That should do =P

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SOLUTION: USE the DOLLAR, END the FED

The Dollar is not in meltdown.

The Federal Reserve Note is in meltdown.

Solution? Re-embrace the Dollar and shun the Federal Reserve Note, abolish the Federal Reserve.

Other than that, no solution is needed. Of course, we can go further and eliminate a large portion of government, end the undeclared wars, close foreign military bases, reduce some and eliminate other taxes. But unless we resume the use and circulation of dollars and end the use of Federal Reserve Notes and end the FED, then whatever else we do will only be band-aids on a cancer.

Ending the fed is good....

.....but the dollar collapse is already upon us, and we will have to deal with the economic consequences of that. Ending the Fed will only solve half the problem. Next we would have to find a way to rebuild while fighting movements towards globalization. It is a very complicated situation with no easy answers.

The dollar has not collapsed and is not collapsing

Did you miss that at the beginning of my reply?

The FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE is what is collapsing. That is what we have to stop using. You are right, ending the Fed will only solve HALF the problem, because HALF the problem is the use of Federal Reserve Notes and with it their fractional reserve model.

The other HALF of the problem is NOT using money for commerce. We need to RETURN to using the Dollar.

There is nothing wrong with open markets across all borders as long as we are using money.

There IS a problem with globalization which is the concentration of power in the hands of a select few which is enabled via the use of fiat currencies and central banks.

Eliminate the central bank, stop using their worthless paper and start using real money AGAIN, and you will free the markets and halt globalization dead in its tracks.

It is that simple. (yes, there are transition issues, but it really is that simple)

You're missing the point.....

You're just playing semantics. The "Federal Reserve Note" is the only paper currency we have, whether you want to call it that, or call it the dollar.

First, shutting down the Federal Reserve is a goal, not a solution. A solution requires a plan. Show me a viable and specific way to shut down the federal reserve while staving off a DOLLAR collapse, and then you will have a SOLUTION. Oversimplifying the problem is not only ignorant, but dangerous. There is far more going on here than the activities of Central Banks. Again, the problem is complex. Lets not be naive about it..............

It is not semantics it is the very heart of the problem

We are not using Dollars or any other money for that matter.

The problem is that we are circulating bank notes instead of money. It isn't about what you call it, it is about what it is and is not.

A dollar is a coin containing about 371 4/16 grains of .999 (or "pure") silver. It has been this way for over 500 years. It was not invented by the United States. It was adopted by the United States, and has since been abandoned by us. (a grave error as we are finding out)

The solution is to start using it again.

You ask for specific provisions or legal language. That is beyond the scope of this topic. But one thing I can assure you with 100% confidence the "dollar" will not collapse when the FED is dissolved, but the Federal Reserve Note will - as it should.

  • Practically, we need to resume mintage of dollars and fractional coins, as well as gold.
  • There needs to be an education program for the people to show them what money is and is not, and where we went wrong in the 20th century.
  • Tools need to be established to facilitate commerce with the new coinage, as well as use of the old coinage which is still out there until it can be retired and re-coined.

This is just an outline and just a start. The details are left for Congress and public debate. I'm not shirking the details or ignoring their importance. But the goal is not a bad one in and of itself and it is the solution we are looking for. Even if it isn't a perfect system, we are getting no where fast under what we have now. We made mistakes in 1913 and since by the adoption of the Federal Reserve and the suspension of dollar usage. Before we go any further, we need to correct those mistakes. Then and only then can we look forward to see if there are improvements we can make to what the founders gave us.

The complexity only lies in trying to maintain something that lies at the heart of so many other issues. Our early mistakes in the 1900's caused further problems that precipitated more mistakes because the flawed premise of a central bank and a fiat currency without a monetary system was taken to be correct.

Sure, there are other problems and in total, the whole mess we have is complex, but we can't start to address them until we address the underlying and moss pressing problem - our monetary system or lack thereof.

Again, you simplify the problem....

By your definition, there are no "dollars", only "Fed Notes". Re-instituting a new "dollar" is a massive project requiring years of planning and execution. What do we do in the meantime? A barter economy is one stop gap, as the article explains, but the effects of hyperinflation don't disappear just because you change the currency. You still have to rebuild after the damage is done. The Fed has already done its job. Our currency and our economy has been destroyed. Shutting down the Fed is necessary to stop future controls of finance, but does little to get us out of the trouble we are already in economically. Even if you shut the Fed down today, we would STILL have an economic collapse, and that is the only 'simple' part of this whole mess.

Yes, ending the fed and re-instituting the now abandoned dollar

will not magically make the present collapse go away. But unless we do that, the collapse will be total.

The only hope for pulling out of this any time soon is to do those two things.

Inflation would mostly disappear very quickly and there is historical precedent for this. The signing of the Constitution and the adopting of the dollar as the unit of account in the first place. (along with the prohibition on states from declaring anything but silver and gold coin as legal tenders)

The end of the continental dollars and the increased circulation of real dollars as a result quickly ended the massive economic downtown the nation was in. Hyperinflation had kicked in and was quickly deflated. In fact, since inflation is the increase in the money supply, and not a rise in prices, by massively cutting the supply of physical money units, you instantly revalue the economy.

It wasn't a disaster in 1792 and there is no reason for it to be a disaster now. Prices, salaries, stocks, property, etc. will all be revalued using real dollars instead of FRNs. Real dollars will be be pumped into circulation very quickly because they will once again be useful for face value, and the mint can resume minting the traditional coinage.

I know there are going to be details that will have to be worked out, and yes, there will be adjustment and shifting of how or economy works and what it is based on, but that is going to happen ANYWAY. At least without the FED and by returning to the Dollar, this can be both minimized and put on a firm solid foundation for future prosperity and political stability.

Ending the FED and restoring the Dollar are not just nice anachronisms, they ARE the solution because the problem IS their opposite.

it takes minutes of planning

"Re-instituting a new "dollar" is a massive project requiring years of planning and execution."

It literally takes minutes of planning to start using silver eagles. (While old dimes and quarters with silver content can be used, they aren't as distinctive as silver eagles and their value may be overlooked.)

1) Put a few silver eagles in your pocket every morning.
2) At every purchase, attempt to use the real money.
3) When tipping on a nice meal, leave a silver eagle for the tip.

We don't need to invent anything new. We already have what we need, if we have the desire to act.

Thank you.

Exactly my point. The coinage is already there. What ratio it is based on is still for the market to decide, but there is already coinage minted. We just have to use it.

I do that now when I can. But repealing the legal tender clauses and ending the FED, and resuming that silver coinage (and very importantly the fractional coins) will go a long way and I would say is necessary to making this as quick and as painless as possible.

Personally I'd like to see a coinage system based on the following standard with not face values attached and the unit of account being one full troy ounce of .999 silver for the government. For their own books they can value stocks of other metals on the open market based on the 200 DMA or something similar.

Coins minted in the following metals:

Copper
Nickel
Silver
Palladium
Gold
Platinum

and in the following weights:

0.10, 0.20, 0.50, and 1.0 troy ounces .999 pure.

If needed, the standard can be .900 pure, but each coin should contain that amount of .999 pure metal.

Coinage and monetary mathematicians have shown that this ratio of denominations is the most efficient when spending and making change, as well as storage. (we commonly use 0.25 as a unit, but that renders 0.50 less used and superfluous and is less efficient than 0.20 and 0.50 together)

The market would dictate where each metal was valued and payment and change can easily be calculated accordingly. (especially with computers)

It could EASILY be done

It could EASILY be done internally but the rest of the World would not be happy.
Good people do Good deeds
Good people make it happen

Buy stuff you'll need.

We should keep adding to our long-term food storage, stock up on first aid/medical supplies, garden seeds, warm clothing, sturdy footwear, ammo and weapons, fuel supplies, get training that will help us fend for ourselves and our families, have dental work done now plus eye exam and lenses or Lasik.

If you have a fair chunk of money, buy arable land with natural water supply in a remote location and begin pre-positioning supplies there, well-hidden to thwart thievery.

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Prepare to fend off more

Prepare to fend off more than your share of the hoards..There would be a mass gov't confiscation in your senario. The death stench would be overwelming..
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Good people make it happen

Life builds upon the good we do here now.

That's the last line of the article. Be aware but don't be distracted by all the shit going down "out there". Right here, right now in your own life is where it really happens.