Explain this
Submitted by Independent Pursuit on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 20:18
For those questioning 9/11 Pentagon official story I have a short video (48 seconds) showing a fighter jet crashing into a concrete wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9cQM9_v6_c
You can see that the entire plane is pulverized by the impact, so this evidence indicates that an airplane can indeed vanish or suffer very major damage when it crashes into a wall.
Can someone explain why the airplane hitting D.C. could not break into a similar way ?
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comparison
http://www.grupo.org/pentagon
Pilot who flew planes used on 9/11 doesn't buy official story
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3606159506368831731#
Jamie MacIntyre - CNN "No evidence of a plane crash at Pentagon"
even the grass was undisturbed.... you could putt on it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
The best debunking photo.
Is that of the "C-ring" having been penetrated by a perfectly round hole.
How could an aircraft have punched through 6 walls, and all the interior columns to have left such a hole?
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where are you
Independent Pursuit?
Come back and play...Did you watch the video?
Really good actors huh? Can you imagine the difficulty in getting all these people to agree to tell the same story and then have each of them pull off this academy award winning performance?
That's the reality I face. Do I trust a government and an administration that tried to thwart an investigation at every turn, won't release any video proof and then put together a 911 commission report, that some individuals who worked on, deemed a whitewash?
Or do I consider the eyewitness testimony, testimony that wasn't considered when putting the cover-up report together, by over a dozen highly believable witnesses.
Even Lloyd England, the cab driver that had a 250 lb., 30 foot long steel pole crash into his car at 500 miles per hour, straight through the windshield without leaving a scratch on his hood, he played the part of a liar flawlessly.
Like so many other things about this country and our government...I AIN'T BUYING IT NO MORE.
Do you even understand the ramifications of the government lying about the flight path of flight 77?
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
There are photos of the first hour at the pentagon.
Before the entire roof caved in there was a perfect 16 foot diameter hole that penetrated 4.5 layers of walls of the pentagon. It was clearly a missile not a plane. What was found was part of a small engine that is inside a missile.
http://therootsofchange.com
Brotip: Missiles do not not leave perfect 16 foot diameter
holes.
CHA-CHING!
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how do you know? A prudent
how do you know?
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Well...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=128456...
Scroll down a little more than halfway. (in b4 blah blah metal ship not building)
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how does he know?
apparently the same way he knows 757's do leave 16 foot diameter holes.
More fruit loops
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
Because they have a circular cross section?
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Hey Mr 2 1/4 hrs Independent Pursuit Take A Hike Go Crawl Back
under your rock. We know a 757 did not hit the Pentagon. There were no engine impact markings on the building (and no the wings folding back and miraculously getting sucked into the hole won't work here) matter of fact the immediate photos show windows were not even broken where the wings should have hit. Have you seen the released frames from the Pentagon? All you see is a little streak of vapor,do you have any idea how big a 757 is?
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Lousy try...oh yeah welcome to the DailyPaul.
The video trapfive (thanks) posted destroys any possibility of a 757 hitting that building within 4 minutes by the photo of the still standing center column where the jet was supposed to have passed through...your done with this issue now.
http://vimeo.com/4777716
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I'm totally freaked out
I just looked up the same video description on google and what did I find?
Other people making the same connection... I wonder what they say.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ppfinal.html
http://www.nci.org/02NCI/01/back-27.htm
It's like totally spooky
explain this
I've got a long video (about an hour and a half) that looks credible to me.
http://vimeo.com/4777716
Of the 14 or so witnesses, including 3 Pentagon police, the pentagon heliport traffic controller, 4 Arlington cemetery workers, a mechanic, a Navy civilian contractor, you tell me....watch the video and explain how you know they are lying.
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
ummm..
shoddy video... show the after...
F4 compared to a commercial passenger plane is like a bicycle and an 18wheeler. Titanium does not turn to dust from impacts.
engines:
The Rolls-Royce RB211 is a family of high-bypass turbofan engines made by Rolls-Royce plc and capable of generating 37,400 to 60,600 pounds-force (166 to 270 kilonewtons) thrust. Originally developed for the Lockheed L-1011 (TriStar), it entered service in 1972 and was the only engine to power this aircraft type.
2 engines About 9ft. long and 6 ft wide , weighing 7,294 lbs each
comprised of Titanium and Steel.... DO NOT turn to dust. Nor do they "leave no mark".
Also: 1 hour 39 min
try again, and next time bring better ammo
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the difference between a
the difference between a jumbo jet and an old phantom are like night and day.
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
logistics of pulverization aside
you should not study this in a vacuum. if you want to ask questions, ask also about the inconsistencies of the flight path reported and described in by the commission, which directly conflict multiple personal accounts of the trajectory as pointed out on film (on youtube) by independent researchers interviewing credible eye witnesses. ask about the aerodynamic capabilities of a passenger jet to maneuver the way it did to make its approach. ask about the complete blackout on any and all recordings of the incident opposed to the other prolific videos of the planes hitting the twin towers. Ask about the size of the parts that were scattered as debris not being nearly large enough to measure up to the pieces found on the size of plane which was reported to have crashed into the pentagon. (not to mention that immaculate lawn but thats something else altogether).
i do agree with you in fact that a plane would probably vaporize when hitting several cement and steel wall columns, but did the penetration go too far for it to plausably come from a passenger jet?
We all have questions man, none of us are going to ever get answers.
If a plane hit the pentagon, then the government should show...
us the video! With more surveillance cameras than any other building in the world, we should have plenty to see! That is my question: Where is the evidence? Show us the proof! The fact that they have not released any videos is my argument that something is definitely wrong. Combine that with the documented physical evidence, and there is your conspiracy theory in a nut shell.
What if they just weren't
What if they just weren't into giving up the information to people who might want to try it again? You know.."next time we aim a little higher", or "next time we try a different angle"?
Not to defend anyone, but would it be a good idea to hand over video analysis of the crash?
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
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Attack me twice...
Thundercloud, Kind of makes me wonder how the pentagon was hit in the first place...how long after it had been determined we were under attack.
I ain't buying it. There's no way our military could possibly be that inept, especially when there's testimony that Cheney basically tracked the thing from miles out. No way
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
If you were in charge of a secure defense building
You were top security guy, of a top security building.
And your building were attacked.
Would you release multiple videos of the attack, to the public?
That's all I'm saying.
If a Jewel thief stole the Hope diamond, do you think they would tell the public how it was done?
I'm just not sure that LACK of evidence, is evidence at all.
LOL..I told myself a long time ago, I'd stay out of these 9/11 threads.
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The plane should have been shot down anyway!!
No fighter jets scrambled. Some security.
No plane could have been traveling at such a high speed and make make such a maneuver as this one did.
The top security guy should have been fired on the spot. He blew it big time. Was he? No!
I used to drive by there every day
My brother still does. And used to do business inside.
nothing big..Copy Machine repair.
I always wondered how they kept the place secure.
It's in the middle of everything. highways, the airport, other buildings, all kinds of noise.
When i worked in the area, I did IT work for Langley CIA HQ..I was a frequent visitor. so at one point some "dudes" in a typical black car, in typical black suits, wearing typical black glasses visited all my neighbors, asking questions..LOL...the only thing bad they had to say was I played my music too loud.
But here is the stupid part.
Every Visit to CIA, they would inspect my car at the gate (cursory at best).
Then I would park and walk up to the entrance. where there were guards. These guys inspected my tools, opened any boxes I had..then I walked through a metal detector. So, that was a more thorough inspection.
I serviced computers. Most held sensitive data.
when I was done for the day, I would walk out to my car.
Nobody inspected ANYTHING on the way out. I never did anything illegal, never broke any rules. And never left with anything that was not mine.
But...They NEVER inspected me on the way out!!! Pretty stupid, if you ask me. This was years ago, so things have probably changed.
But the Government is known for being Bass Ackwards sometimes.
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That plane was made out of
That plane was made out of different material,
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I have more questions than you, I'll bet
A real investigation would satisfy us both perhaps.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
A fighter jet is much smaller
Sure it'll smash up into a billion little pieces. Take a big ol' passenger jet and do the same thing and you'll probably find pieces of baggage and seats strewn all over the place.
What they don't show in the video is the aftermath. Explain why they didn't show that.
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Another Video
This airplane crashed in Brazil, over 200 dead and all what's left is the airplane tail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP5OK_ugI3I
The airplane didn't fly straight into the building, the pilot tried his best to avoid the impact...still the damage is huge. I agree, are a lot of questions regarding 9/11, but I think there is the chance that the airplane could be pulverized by a frontal impact. I'm not an expert, I just look at those videos and wonder...
http://endthelie.com
http://blacklistednews.com/
http://www.infowars.com/
I see big pieces of jet
I saw the tail, a section of fuseage and what appears to be parts of the jet being picked up by cranes.
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that's cool
I had to watch it 3 times.