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Palin disses GOP
Submitted by trapfive on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 19:56
What do you make of this? Palin bucking the GOP and supporting Doug Hoffman for the NY 23rd seat. http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=4908 She says the GOP has lost tough with it's core values. Here's Hoffman's issue page, looks liberty minded, anyone have any info on this guy? http://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com/issues.html#bankbailout » |
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Plain and Simple... She Sucks and she is a Moron! Ya Know!
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"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
She sucks huh.....picture or
She sucks huh.....picture or it didn´t happen ^_^.
No but I agree, she is not capable to run again, they will bury her.
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Only a couple of thoughts on Palin...
I think she is a strong, smart woman, a good mother, a great Christian, but bottom line... Couric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAO7cH-xrE
I think she is blind to the reality of what our system uses our military men and women for, so much so she would be proud to send her son into harms way when the reality is that our war machine is for corporate interests, not national defense nor has it been since at least 1913. I am not knocking anyone that served or is serving (to each our own) and there are many benefits and honorable things our military members actually do and have done, but that is that fact of the matter. Ask any Vietnam vet (ground grunt) how their country turned its back on them during and after the war.
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
Google "Bonus Marchers"
I think she is sincere in her beliefs, but she is misguided and ignorant of the facts or she could not have allowed her son to go fight in a war with no end in sight, and leaders that would stand by while our countries children stand in harms way to have a fund raiser instead of spending 100% of their time addressing the issues and resolving them immediately, I get sick thinking about our service men and women serving in Afghanistan under armed, under equipt, and waiting for backup that "might" come after an alcohol induced dance party/fund raiser is over... Our leaders our now completely and openly a disgrace to the men and women in uniform; although, I bet many are awake to how much Obama really considers them at this point. Perhaps sending "Obama's army" there to fight for the drug trade and corporate oil interests would save the honorable and we could bring them home.
Palin might be sincere in her soon to be announced Independent run for 2012, but the reality is that Ron Paul stood more of a chance, even with the huge backing Fox news will give her, true conservatives are smart enough not to vote for her after that interview. She could perhaps find some success running as a Democrat, as they appear to be the most gullible and ignorant among us that will elect anyone with good speaking skills. I am not saying not to support her if you like her, just that reality has shown that she is not the brightest light on the block, and I doubt if she can garner 20% of the vote, I "betcha".
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I've been wondering what she
I've been wondering what she believes in that is so incompatible with the neo-con controlled GOP. I dont understand why the pundits are bringing up "third party", "independent" and "Sarah Palin" in concert. She is a mainstream Republican.
Ventura 2012
Palin disses the GOP.
McCain dissed the GOP on several occasions.
Joe Lieberman dissed the DNC.
I'm sorry but it means nothing in these examples, including Palin.
I'll never support Palin. Not even for dog catcher. I can't stand hypocrisy, I can't stand phonies, I can't stand people who babble nonsensically, I can't stand shallow opportunistic ex-beauty queens whose personal ambition is completely transparent.
It pains me to see how many people are so desperate to be on the winning team, and they think putting this women into office is "for the win".
yea right.
I'll say this just once. If we don't fix the people, it doesn't matter who we put in office. If 85% of the adults in the U.S. are going to stubbornly remain ignorant puppets of our two party system, then we might as well send a monkey to the white house.
the american people, by focusing on winning (every four years), have lost almost everything.
my dream 2012, would be the lowest turn out in the history of voting.
completely de-legitimize the federal government's current policies. all of them.
then millions of people engage their state politicians, demanding local representation, balanced budgets, emphasis on local and state control of our own destinies.
palin wants to be king, she thought george and barack had their shot at king, why not her?
I'll tell you why. We don't need any more kings.
We don't need any more federal institutionalization of every f'n thing important in our lives. everything the government touches turns to shit.
i'm tired of it.
Best truth telling rant of the month.
"If we don't fix the people, it doesn't matter who we put in office." But I don't see that happening as long as the people stayed glued to the tube.
"Everything the government touches does turn to sh*t." And Pelosi's "seriously, seriously" reply, when asked where in the constitution does it authorize government run healthcare, sickened me. To me, that was even worse than Lindsey Graham almost going off the deep end last week.
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Ok smarty pants, what is her
Ok smarty pants, what is her record? I'm pretty sure she doesn't have one.
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do records even mean anything?
Seems a politicians record is decided by the pictures and noise that comes from that box I used to watch.
I'm not supporting Palin with this post. In fact, I've had heated discussions with the walking blind (family and friends) who think Sarah is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
But, I'm still trying to convince them we aren't waging a war against tara.
I did ask the DP what they made of it...Palin going against the establishment. Kind of like an attorney....never ask a question in court that you don't already know the answer too.
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
Agreed.
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She's just trying to build some conservative cred
She is just another fake conservative that sees what Ron Paul and we did; thus, she (like Beck and others) are trying to rebuild the perception that they are real conservatives. They tried to hijack Ron Paul's message during the election and they tried to hijack the Tea Parties...don't let them hijack YOU.
THEY AREN'T REAL CONSERVATIVES! LOOK AT THEIR RECORDS!
Stick to your guns...Ron Paul 2010...Rand Paul 2010...Ron Paul 2012.
I don't even want to hear the P word
Fox cannot get through a day without bumpin' the P word.
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Beware of Palin!!!!
If I were a puppet master looking down on my realm and saw that the masses were on to my two party (one coin) scam, and realized that there was talk of huge support for a true third party candidate, what would I do? I would take a popular (and so-called "former" mainstream) figure and position them as a leading alternative to the evil two parties that the masses oppose! This way, this candidate could possibly either win by getting over a 3rd of the vote (with electoral delegates of course) or could be used to splinter the Independents enough to allow for one of the two original parties to hold power.
My question is...why, all of a sudden, would Sarah Palin, an x-vice presidential candidate, decide to abandon her main party to somehow emerge as a voice and front runner for those looking for such a 3rd party alternative! You must know that anyone who reaches the level to be nominated as a VP in one of the two major parties, has already sold out to get there and would be a great "plant" by the puppet masters to steal yet another election from the people!
She is not qualified to lead this country and that's why they would put her there! I think she is a set-up! I mean, come on, Arlen Spector changes parties like he changes his underwear (or by now, perhaps adult diapers), and so have many others like Leberman, etc. etc.!
BEWARE PALIN!
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Who can blame her, she was the rock star of the GOP convention giving them a double digit lead in the polls so what did they do with Sarah afterwards ... put her on ice for 2 weeks and then she was lead into back to back nationally televised ambush interviews followed up by endless 24 hour crucifixion and the RNC, John McCain, Fox News did nothing to stop it ... because that is exactly what they wanted done to her. The entire country saw more of Tina Fey than Sarah Palin and that is how she was judged and crucified.
"We are past the point of
"We are past the point of pointing fingers over how we got to where we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. The question for us now is where do we go from here? I believe we must continue to try and turn the security and governing of Iraq over to the Iraqis. I also believe we need to continue to go after the terrorist strongholds and training bases wherever they are located. The war against terror is not over and the terrorists’ goal remains the destruction of the United States and our way of life… We must never forget this fact."
Vote for the Democrat over this clown.
Ventura 2012
The war of terror is a never ending war
Like the war on drugs (still raging). What is occupying a third world country going to accomplish? To find Bin Laden? With all military technology you don't think we could find this shadowy CIA operative? Al CIAda can't be found from the ISP addresses on the fake videos popping up at opportune times?
We've been had. Open your mind and look beyond what the box has laid out for you.
Who gives a crap about Sarah? Your post begs for a response.
Who the hell is Palin?
Why is she even mentioned on this site? She's a hack. A has been. A neo-conn. Just because she says "Ron Paul is a nice fellow" we have people on the DP screaming for her to win the 2012 election.
F*CK Palin!
I, too, am puzzled by the interest in Palin by folks on DP.
It's somethin' I just don't understand at all.
Beautifully put!
Ron Paul is the great uniter, the income tax fighter...the military-supported, defender of the border...the political apathy solution and the champion of the Constitution! Doctor Paul is on-call!
I wonder how many zerooooooooooooooooooooooooos
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The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
were on the check Rockefeller made out to her.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
way back when
Maybe around October or so of 2007, many Daily Paulers were suggesting Palin as a Ron Paul running mate.
Times have changed, sure, but there is some populist/libertarian appeal to her personna.
Sadly enough.
Why are we so compelled to be curious about her?
Republicans
There are allot of REPUBLICANS on DP and they are REPUBLICANS FOR LIFE bringing REPUBLICANS, like Palin, to DP, in hopes of seducing people to become REPUBLICAN.
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Like Ron Paul :) Sorry,
Like Ron Paul :)
Sorry, couldn't resist. I do see what you're getting at.
On Palin, I really don't think she is quite as hopeless as many here make her out to be. Many Alaskans whose judgment I trust, used to speak quite highly of her before her foray into national politics, at least as far as supposedly "realistic" candidates go.
Exactly how she ended up in the arms of the rather unreformed Weekly Standard crowd, sure is a mystery. The most straight forward reason I can think of, is that she was simply out to win, and at the time she came down from Alaska, they seemed like the crew that could open doors for her. With that particular ship sinking faster than one can say neocon, I would hope for her sake she has the sense to leave those "liberals mugged by reality" behind, at least assuming she did not leave every conservative bone in her body behind in Alaska.
One thing she does have, is obvious appeal to a lot of people on a personal level. Much like Obama, just to a different audience. And I do think hers is an audience that would be very content to follow her if she should decide to swing much further in "our" direction than most any other big name politicians' core supporters would follow their man or woman. It's not like most "Palin people" are all that gung ho about blowing up their kids college tuition in Tora bora or wherever. And neither are they, at least as far as I can tell, that hung up on harassing gays and fighting drug wars, the way many of Huckabee's grassroots people are. And neither are they Banking and big business centered in the way of Romney folk.
So, compared to any of those guys, she has a lot of freedom to move in an agreeable direction, if she could just fess up to having gone a bit wrong in her first choice of lower 48 cliques to hang out with. Now she just has to realize whose wearing the pants in that supposedly conservative Palin household, and be a bit more like her once (and probably still) Alaskan Independence Party supporting husband. I mean, who out of her supporters would not prefer her to take advice from him, rather than Bill Kristol and his merry gang of political has beens?
What I liked about Palin
is how she showed America how politics continue to be against women. Boy did she show Hillary and the Democrats how easy it is to get into the Executive office.
Every single day, several times a day, I think about the paperazzi VS street camera's question. I still think Arnold was correct in the paperazzi laws, and I continue to think that the community does not have a right to place cameras... I'm having a hard time equating the two.
Part of it is because I see celebrities as people who sold out, when they bought into a contract, and they do things for publicity..
But that would not mean that a paparazzi would have a right to make a profit off them with no contract..
Maybe this paperazzi law can be used to close down the street cameras?
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I think you're right about
I think you're right about women in politics. It probably stems from the politicizion of womanhood in general over the latter half century. As much as some men fret about culture and society forcing them to become needlessly feminized, mainstream cultural forces have largely split women down the middle, to say the least. Of course it doesn't help that persistent inflation have, for many, left little choice on the matter with regards to whether to seek full time employment outside the home or not.
You'd think Palin, which more than almost anyone exemplifies the possibility "having it all" of family and career would be a bit of a uniter, both of women aren't dead set on either a full time housewife nor full time radical feminist careerist path; and for men, as she is about as far from the stereotypical feminazi image of the "sucessful" women that many men supposedly fear are undermining their culture as one can think of.
Truth to be told, I do think at least part of the public's rejection of her, was self inflicted. For one, she could have bothered studying up and preparing for interviews. She didn't have to get herself tied in a knot over relatively simple questions, and probably didn't do the public's image of conservative women any favors by doing so. As clueless and vapid as Obama may be, at least no one doubts he puts in the effort to be well prepared for his rather important job. With Palin, it seemed she expected her natural charm to just melt barriers and open doors, just because she is who she is; with little hard work and preparation on her part. Which really isn't the wisest course of action when hailing from the party most national media would rather see do not so well.
Another issue is, she bet on the wrong horse by choosing to cozy up the Weekly Standard, neo con, crowd. By the time she arrived on the national scene, those guys were already on the decline. Had she stuck with her earlier Buchananite leanings, I believe more people would have more faith in at least her integrity. I'm still not convinced she can't recover, though. She just needs to go through a somewhat public "Glen Beck" transformation, and get in touch with her inner "libertarian." There is no doubt in my mind, that pretty much none of her current supporters (Kristol excepted) will desert her if she does, nor that in doing so she will pick up and regain potential supporters who were simply put off by much of her campaign last year, as well as what she seemed to have become.
As pertains to paparazzi, I just don't think it is any of government's business whether someone takes a picture in a public venue. Nor if that picture happen to include some person who just happens to be out in public that day. Whether the picture snapper benefits from that picture financially, or if he just benefits socially or emotionally, from, say, having a picture including Tom Cruise in his photo album or on his Facebook page, simply ought not be relevant as to the legality of taking pictures in public places.
Of course, that does not mean government ought to be involved in doing so, but with Arnold's law, what we get is the exact opposite. Private individuals, or at least some of them, are banned from snapping in public, while government can do so to their heart's content. And if "profits" are bothersome, it's not like the government is doing their snapping without intent to use the pictures for revenue enhancing purposes, either.
picking the right horse is
picking the right horse is for people whose personal stake is more important then truth.
ron paul picked truth.
palin picked a horse.
I agree and conceed stuki
I agree with you on Palin and I find your perspective fair and balanced, really. I think the jump from full time PTA mom to Gov to VP was a bit much for most folks who work very hard to be president of the PTA, let alone, Governor, of ALASKA!! and VP.
I believe I have a clearer understanding about the paperazzi issue. Arnold was wrong to make the law, we already have laws stars can afford to find attorneys that actually work. And you are right about the money the state makes off snapping pictures, it's hwy robbery.
Thank you for the debate and helping me better tune my eye on how freedom slips away when we don't see the whole picture. I have a better picture now because of you. Thanks for hanging in there with me. We all win.
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I'm not seducing anyone
with anything. I thought it rather odd that Palin would support a candidate against the GOP endorsement. I asked the DP answered. That's what the site is here for isn't it?
Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio
trapfive: Good post
Good questions and you are correct... you are right on.
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She's gonna go Indy
GOP is was the party one no and now it's the party of none, actually less than 20% registration nation wide. Indy is 40% and climbing. It's VERY VERY exciting to be an Indy, and that's where the race is going to be.
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