Less than $2000 for RJ Harris - this is just sad - a DP and retakecongress.com endorsed candidate money bomb raises so little

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I am very upset at this point. I may some some things that offend some and I am not sorry for that if it happens.

Get beyond ONLY Rand Paul and Peter Schiff, they are only 2 people.

We have about 30 candidates on the website and over 50 yet to add and the patriot community is having the Rand Schiff party. Don't take this the wrong way, in fact retake congress hosted a money bomb for Peter that raised over $400,000 in one day for Peter and we emailed our list for the Trevor Lyman bomb that raised Rand over $500,000 and we do support them both 100%. We need to do more than this if we have a fighting chance.

Here is a note for everyone that hasn't donated, our candidates running for the house will not need millions only 50 to 100 thousand to actually win their races. We have raised over 2 million dollars for Rand and Peter and that kind of money could actually fund winning races for over 20 of our liberty candidates. Do the math, what could possibly be better for our cause? 1 possibly 2 senate seats or 30, 40 even 50 house seats? Imagine 50 other house seats fighting with Ron Paul on a daily basis.

I just really can't believe the lack of support for all of these people busting their asses, putting their lives on hold, neglecting time with their family to fight for freedom only to be disrespected by lack of financial support because they may not be famous enough for folks here. Freedom has a price it is not free and these people are walking the walk and we are not supporting them, so why should they continue to fight? You know why? because they care about WTF is going on in our country and if we won't help them they have no chance to bring us real change.

WAKE UP AMERICAN PATRIOTS

www.retakecongress.com

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Read this...

If you, or anyone wants to be taken seriously on tactics/strategy, you must read this first. I link to the un-annotated version because it is short, just a few pages long and contains more wisdom than all of the posts like this combined:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17405/17405.txt

After having read that, if you can clearly define why you still think it is a good idea, than great. Please list the reasons and the appropriate reference points from the text as to why it is a valid strategic decision.

Btw, I donated to RJ Harris, so I am not arguing that we should not donate to him. But the one thing that lacks in our camp is coherent strategy. I really wish more people would take the 30 minutes to at least read the above, and a few days to contemplate the meanings of the various points.

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The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

Thanks, bookmarked

to study.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

Awesome... :)

If I have convinced even one person to study it, then I have succeeded.

What is interesting is that every confrontation can be predicted, or post-analyzed through that wisdom to determine the reasons for win/loss.

As an exercise, try this, it will really blow your mind. Think back to the 2008 primary and to every success and failure we had in battle, then read the text for the second time (it is important that you have already read it once). You will find your explanations there as to the reasons for success and failure. Including the money bombs. The money bombs were horribly unsuccessful in early attempts, as compared to the later ones. I believe this has more to do with Chowda who created our tracking website and the Ron Paul campaign for opening up the data, as well as the DailyPaul than actually having increased our numbers.

The early calls to "donate just $5" that we all spammed everywhere did not result in nearly the same level of cash... And the answer is in the text if you look... As well as to all the other major defining moments.
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http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

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Looking forward to the read

Go the distance

I just want to say how proud I am of you guys and thank all of you for jumping in and supporting this mini-bomb put on by retakecongress.com and dailypaul.com. Don't be discouraged ThePatriot, with very short notice, and with mainly just the DPers participating, you raised us near 3k which will help out very much for some immediate campaign needs. Expectations being what they are, when we see a candidate coming in with a pre-built media persona and see him bring in triple digits, it's easy to get excited and hope we can do the same for every candidate. But the fact is, as you said, we can win some of these races for allot less money than others. The RJ Harris 2010 campaign is turning your donations into amazing local poll numbers AND into district wide exposure. In time that exposure will matriculate into matching funds coming from within the district once more local supporters hear our message of liberty and freedom restored. With that in mind we need to keep our chins up, fight with endurance and take the victories, big and small, where we find them.

FOR LIBERTY,

RJ Harris

RJ Harris
Constitutional Conservative Republican
US Congressional Candidate
Oklahoma 4th District
www.rjharris2010.com

PS I disagree with you Eric. There are some very wounded incumbants out here and I am challenging one of them. We are within striking distance and we have the poll numbers to prove it. With 100k, we WILL win this race.

RJ Harris
Constitutional Libertarian
www.harrisforoklahoma.com

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/RJ-Harris/128692249103

I also mailed you a small check today.

Good luck, RJ, and thank you.

Stand up guy...

You are definitely a worthy guy and candidate in my opinion. So, don't take my statement wrong from above. I hope you win, and will personally keep contributing when I can...
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The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

Thank you RJ

For everything you have done, and will do for the cause of liberty.

Does RJ Harris upload videos

Does RJ Harris upload videos to YouTube? If so, I think that would be a very effective way for people to get to know him better and maybe be more inclined to donate. Maybe it would be good to promote his videos more on DP, etc.

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It's almost as if the Engineered collapse of the economy

Was done in part, to prevent the Average Joe from contributing "extra" income towards the promotion of Freedom.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

p.s. I never expect ANY

p.s. I never expect ANY liberty candidate to win.

I'm contributing to keep spreading the message, and talking about the liberty movement.

If anyone here is hung up on winning a race, please vote for barack next time.

I sent $25.

It's a small amount I know.

Had 1000 people done that, he'd have $25,000 added to his kitty.

shame shame shame...

Thank you. It's appreciated

I do 10's, and 20's when I can. Which is less and less often these days.
Maybe none at all soon. Looks like my wife will be out of a job by Monday.
She has two part time jobs, and is down to one. Then, down to none.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

How bout we change up the arsenal?

Do all the bombs have to be "money" bombs?
Sorry, but I'm all tapped out moneywise, but not time and talent wise.

How about a few more "activism" bombs? phone? Email? Actual hand written letters to friends neighbors and strangers in the phone book (I like this one, so novel this day and age to receive a handwritten letter)
Maybe an everyone get out and "bug your neighbor" day? A Radio Call in bomb? Spontaneous candidate parades? Mass For liberty screenings in the park? Improv everywhere style events? Everything is ok style bullhorn sessions in crowded areas like YAL did at UW Madison? Overpass sign blitz for retake congress? Benefit and charity events for freedom? 5k runs for freedom? How is there not a big national FREEDOM RUN!? Concerts? Demonstrations? Giveaways? Leaflets? Posters? Tshirts? DVDs?

Money bombs are great, but not everyone has money to spare anymore. Many people have lost their jobs. Many of us, however have time, talent and presence we can offer that can be magnified through mass action. Discovering this phenomenon has been a real boon to our movement over the years. Let's not neglect our other avenues of attack. Can we do a bomb that requires activity? It's not all about money, we need to reach out to people too.

I try to contribute to all of the excellent

freedom candidates running; but as our message is carried by more and more candidates, we are going to have to either focus on a few key candidates or focus on our local/regional/state candidates.

We as a small movement are trying to support so many, not only candidates but libertarian media, websites, groups such as IVAW. I wish I could fund them all, I distribute my donations widely, but we don't have unlimited deep pockets as some of our establishment opposition does.

We MUST get a different plan

In fact I HAVE a different plan. Maybe if a candidate gets really desperate, they can contact me.
We will NEVER raise more FRNs for a candidate than they can print. We can NEVER buy "fair" media time. Most important, we can NEVER END THE FED by circulating FRNs.
Frankly, I have zero hope in elections or confidence in our government. But if liberty lovers want to play politics, they better get smarter fast.
And one other detail so many folks seem to miss... the economy is in the toilet. No one is spending money on anything. People are losing jobs, the holidays are around the corner, and I am not the only one who thinks politics is a "luxury" they cannot afford. DON"T start - some of us are actually living check to check, and anything beyond our bills and food is a luxury, no matter how dire our situation or late the hour. I AM awake, that is why I am NOT churning FRNs for anything but necessities.
Best of luck to BJ, Rand, Peter, Adam, et al... most of the turnips are all out of blood, though.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Sorry

I'm a one horse pony sort of guy. I'm not giving $10 to every candidate running, I'm giving $1,000 to Rand. I already gave $50 to Schiff, and I'd prefer to concentrate on 1-2 candidates. It's no offense to the other guys, but I'd rather we concentrate on Rand and Peter. I'd rather see them actually WIN two high value seats than see everyone make a good show and LOSE.

I just really can't believe the lack of support for all of these people busting their asses, putting their lives on hold, neglecting time with their family to fight for freedom only to be disrespected by lack of financial support because they may not be famous enough for folks here. Freedom has a price it is not free and these people are walking the walk and we are not supporting them, so why should they continue to fight? You know why? because they care about WTF is going on in our country and if we won't help them they have no chance to bring us real change.

Well, normally I'd be a bit less offensive, but since you're ranting you can suck it. We can't fund EVERY candidate. Your ideas that those would run winning races for 30 candidates is absurd. Get a hold on reality. We've got TV time NATIONALLY for Rand and Peter. They've got the best shots of winning here, and they're the most important shots we've got. They already have the money, they already have the TV time, and spreading out at a time we need to concentrate to win even just one more spot is an absurd idea. You don't thin your lines when you're going to charge, you focus as much firepower on a single point as possible to break through.

Lots of people care. I care, you care, we all care; but logistics are a completely different story. Truth be told, I'm all for everyone fighting, but we can't stage a takeover like you're implying. These people should be running LOCAL campaigns, not Federal campaigns. The movement has chosen by donation who the picks for this year are. It sucks that there isn't enough money to fund everyone, but quit being an idiot about it and get off your high horse.

Eric Hoffer

It's the same idea in philanthropy

The saying is to not spread your charity around, find one good cause and support it with all you can. Same with candidates. I wish I had enough FRNs to support everyone. It's just not the case.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

Bummer. 2 new guys in

Bummer. 2 new guys in congress isnt really going to do a damn thing.

Good logic

So you read my post, then said to yourself, "2 guys winning will do the exact same thing that 0 guys would do, thusly I'll donate to every candidate and not get anyone in, it's the same outcome and I feel better because I didn't hurt anyone's feelings!"

Really? Was that your thought process here?

Check your premises.

Eric Hoffer

Just

gave 50.....
funny not one person contributed to tabornow.com which i kept bumping the last couple days.
good cause fighting big gov in maine
maybe rj will???

yea, why is there a money

yea, why is there a money bomb today when there is going to be a huge one on november 5? Also, a money bomb will never be successful if there is one day notice...unless it is Ron Paul himself.

I'll give this

a bump...I wish I could do more...I do see that RJ is also on the voterswithchange.com list. Perhaps he'll do better on the upcoming money bomb...

Berwick, Columbia County, Pennsylvania
Ron Paul 2012 - The People's Choice
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http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2011-07-26...

The Patriot~Hold your fire!

* There is a big money bomb for all these candidates on Nov 5th..perhaps it was bad timing to ask for one so close to the other? Please remember we are constantly being bombarded with donation requests and some of us have been out of work and unable to do what we wish we could.

I hope to be able to contribute $100 ~ $25 each to 4 candidates on Nov 5th! I would like to pick the ones that are most in need. These candidates need to also ask their local districts and state citizens to step up and contribute as much as possible!

I really like RJ Harris and many of the others and I know how important it is! FYI I just noticed yesterday there was to be a money bomb for him ..so maybe efforts at spreading the word wider than DP would be wise to get better results.

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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Yeah, Me Too.

But now I don't have to, which is good, because I'm basically lazy.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I did 25 wish

it could be more but my wallet is getting pretty thin. I think all the fund raising is nice but one on top of the other is hard on people. I wonder if there are any ideas what we could do to help these people that doesn't cost much. Hmmm, I was wondering, remember how when Dr. Paul was running and people made homemade signs and put them up. What if we have some sort of connecting site by state and area and candidate. If we see a candidate from our state we try and see what we can do. Maybe, someone can come up with some better ideas.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

I can't make folks understand some basic truths like this

If I spend $25 and print fliers, I can reach a LOT of people, face to face. Where am I going to send that $25 where it will go further?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Some don't just throw money at a problem.

I agree, I can do a lot with $25 to help candidates since it is my money and I don't always trust someone else to spend my money. All I need to know is who the state candidate is and I will get to work.
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