Native American Genocide and the New World Order

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This is not a historical subject but one ongoing, worldwide.

In the eighties, it was still an accepted thought in Latin America, that the most advanced countries in the hemisphere, the US and Argentina were so because they wiped out their indigenous populations.
It context of this video, it is interesting to note which countries now refuse to sign on to indigenous rights.
http://colonos.wordpress.com/2007/10/10/un-declaration-on-th...

Bush woudn't sign. The big question is, if Obama will?

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this is NOT asinine....

my spelling of asinine happens to be correct! :)

this shows a pretty good deal of what makes me sick to my stomach each time i wake up.

i don't have to feel guilty to know the truth. the two don't go hand in hand.

i do have a responsibility to stay open to the fact that i may not ever know the truth of anything.

i can remember, while performing in the santa fe opera for two months, how deplorable the native american villages were. it was not because i had in mind how life SHOULD be lived....rather......i felt the presence of the past in my heart...tugging at my soul.......demanding for me to understand and prevent the same from happening again.

thanks for a great post!
it makes me cry. i'm fortunate to be one of those who can......

This is asanine!

I am an 1/8th native American (my great grandmother is full), which means im legally eligible for benefits and all that, but I cant stand this type of "we the white people should feel SOOOOOO guilty for everything we are!!! Blah blah blah"... Just like I think of giving reparations to black people for slavery that didnt even happen to their grandparents, just like my grandparents didnt own any slaves either. Its just guilt bull crap that does nothing but make us go backwards. Lets go forward!

Lastly, the whole "America (as an institution) committed genocide against the natives" is actually a hugely misrepresented, exadurated, myth taught by self loathing liberals in our educational institutions. It sounds like a conservative fear mongering thing to say, but its actually true. There was no deliberate genocide commited against the native Americans, institutionally (being the key word) by the American government. There were terrible things that happened to Indians, by standing Armies, wars, skirmiches and isolated bad things, but did you know many great Indian cheifs called for the killing of all white children, so lets not paint them as angels either. Its rediculous to bring this guilt shit up. Sorry, thats my vulgar truth. Thanks

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We have to absorb the truth of past

errors in order to go forward in a better direction. It's not self-loathing to face terrible facts and choose a moral path.

You're right that individuals today aren't responsible for acts before we were alive. But the culture of aggression continued from the early settlers to today's obsessively militarized war machine and brutal domestic police force.

Of course there was hatred and wrongs on both sides. That's one of the key lessons we learn from war, and why we can never support or excuse any war of aggression.

I will not assume any responsibility,

nor will I accept any guilt, for what happened 100, 150, 200 years ago.

I was not here ... nor there ... I had nothing to do with what may have happened.

Isn't it time that we start looking forward instead of always looking back to see who we can blame for whatever is not perfect in our lives?

Everyone has crap in their past ... get over it and live for today, and tomorrow!

Thanks

Shows up the reality of a Masonic (godless) republic from the "God Bless America" hype, The hype is for the consumption and control of the masses while the reality is strictly for the enrichment and advantage of the elites.

The dominant Protestant culture ... true believers in "health and wealth" Christianity, went right along with the elites, so long as they were getting their share of the crumbs. They steamroll over any culture that isn't Protestant or that gets in the way of a little profit.

Of course, the Indians were not typically the "noble savages" some people portray them as either. Many, though not all, were vile warmongers and brutal in the extreme. In their primitive ways, they were no better, and often worse, than their white counterparts. They just didn't have the technological advantages to win. The fact that some were nomads and often preyed on other tribes makes it hard to establish a property rights argument for them.

In defense of Christopher Columbus and Catholicism ... Christ commissioned His apostles to preach the gospel to ALL nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. It would have been unthinkable for Catholic monarchs in Europe to allow these souls to wallow in ignorance of Christ. The history of the Spanish and French explorations and settlements which went on for three hundred years before the Protestants set foot here, is not a story of genocide. It is a story of teaching the Indians to farm the land so that they could remain in one place a build a lasting civilization for themselves. Once the Protestants arrived, however, all hell broke loose! To destabilize things, they would sell the Indians whiskey and guns and watch, as the civilizing progress of the past went up in smoke.

Today, Mexico is a backward thugdom because the US government supported the Freemasonic takeover of the reins of power early in the 20th Century. A Catholic bloodbath ensued (but, hey, it's not in the history books so who even knows about it). The people of Mexico are a mixed race: Spanish and Indian. Things were never perfect in Mexico, even under the Spanish. But things were never so evil as they are right now.

Ah yes, pillaging and

Ah yes, pillaging and enslaving an entire continent is just fine so long as it's in the name of God.

Another clueless public school grad, I assume?

So how many reputable books have you read on the subject? Your statement does not add anything useful to the conversation, but it probably makes you feel superior (to a door knob, at least). Atheists are the dumbest of the dumb.

FYI, the pagan Aztec "civilization" (definitely one of the most advanced in North America), were slicing and dicing the hearts out of captured members of neighboring tribes to appease their feathered serpent god, Quetzalcoatl long before white guys arrived. How many could they kill? It's estimated that they were so proficient, they could "do" about 80,000 human sacrifices in a single day. The captives were forced to climb the pyramid, hearts ripped out at the top, and bodies pushed over the back side, lickity split.

So, here's just one of hundreds of examples proving that pillaging and enslaving and murdering were being carried on by the noble savages in pre white man America. This fact does not excuse those who took unfair advantage of the Indians (as they are now doing to us), but I'm not accepting any guilt here.

I've got a lot more where that came from if you care to continue. Next, we'll check out the Iroquois.

Speaking of clueless...

are you attempting to be a poster child for the word?

The Aztec ~civilization~ was one of over 4 THOUSAND different ones at the time in the Americas. As long as we want to use it as an example, would you care to whip out your history book and explain where they went? If you need to google that I'd suggest the words Spanish and Catholic. Civilization, as you define it, seems to be how good you are at killing others. Congrats on your win!

Suggesting that the Aztec nation is a good example of Native American cultures is like suggesting that all Euro cultures should be thought of as Hitler's Germany.

Actually, that is a lot closer comparison... :)

You can go on and on about the ~noble savage~ cliche, but the biggest difference between the American and Euro cultures boiled down to honor and decency.

The Euros of course ended up killing off or basically enslaving the native cultures and kept going.. they were nothing but criminals. Do I want some kind of recompense for that? No... it really doesn't matter to me anymore. Would you like to know why?

Because the same people that killed most of us off are now coming for you. Soon you'll have the same health care, same rights to property, same reservation freedoms! Keep in mind when they haul you off for your opinion on something that they are not the bad people.... the others in history that were not as ~civilized~ were.

Just a thought from one of your ~noble savages~.... heh.

~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~

Not trying to be a poster child ...

... just trying to get to the devil in the details: the fact that the Spanish, who were not perfect in any way, were still heads and shoulders better than the Protestant/Masonic culture that overtook the Americas in the 17th century.

I'm sure you are misreading my sentiments ... my fault for not explaining myself well enough.

However, if you will study Catholic missionary activity from the 15th century onward, you will notice startling differences between the way they approached colonization and the way the Protestant/Masons did and do approach it.

If you were to check into the life of Fr. Isaac Jogues and his companions, who were missionaries to the Huron Indians and to their arch enemies, the Iroquois, and who gave up their lives to bring God to these forsaken peoples, you might be astounded at their bravery and self-sacrifice in the face of utter barbarism. Another great priest was Fr. DeSmet, S.J. (1801-1873). Catholic missionary work was betrayed or undermined again and again by the American government, which would promise the Indians anything and then renege and murder them.

It was the Indians who, out of respect, called these priests Black Robes.

My point about the Aztecs is that ... bad as they were, the Spanish fought them, converted them, intermarried with them and created a new race of people of Spanish and Indian blood.

By the way, my daughter-in-law is part Lakota and so my grandchildren are too. Catholics also have a female saint, Kateri Tekawitha. She is known as the Lily of the Mohawks.

I am simply defending the right and duty of Catholics to teach the gospel to ALL nations so that those who accept it might save their souls. Protestant heretics don't have that right. They have twisted that goal into a cruel joke so that the Truth can hardly be discerned anymore. Their crazy dogmas have turned Christianity into a laughing stock. The Catholic religion is the one and only religion ... and these days it too has been infected by Americanism (liberalism), the scourge of our time.

great informative post Sunny

Thanks so much for making my day sunny*))
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thanks liberty,

it really is an amazing video isn't it? it blew right away. it's so beautiful
and yet so very sad.

what our government does is just so cruel.

besides 'dances with wolves", have you seen the movie 'legends of the fall'?

i'm going to watch it once more...

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The Country / North America

The land/countries (US & Canada) is/are built on lies, fraud, decit and genocide. Now that the white man, the destroyer of all things natural is here, he/she now is destroying him/herself. Our white race will simply implode on itself.

We will continue to kill those that aren't like us and rape the Earth for all she has, while polluting our own food and water sources all in the name of generating "wealth".

We are living in insane times. Where insane are now considered sane by the majority.

What is profound about this video is not

"blame," since no one today can change a page of history.

But we can speak the truth, as victims uncover the worst episodes in growth of the Empire. From the very beginning it was built on deception, blood, rapacious plunder, genocide.

To just knee-jerk salute the symbols used to cover up injustices, such as the images of Columbia now morphed into our statue of Liberty, is to assist the government's age-old game of conquest and lies to build a glorified edifice of BigGov.

Looking truth in the eye, we can learn all of the bitter lessons of our flawed experimental Republic and build on sound foundations, using true concepts of individual liberty, banishing old infections of war, robbery, racism, and subjugation.

Don't Blame "White People" for the actions of Politicians

We ofter hear about what "we" did to the Indians. I agree that it is a shameful thing that treaties make with the various Indian tribes were broken. But to blame "white people" for these crimes is really a racist idea.

White people living today had nothing to do with what was done to the Indians a century ago. And even back then, it would be unfair to blame all white people for the actions of some, just as blaming all Indians for the actions of a few is wrong.

So what is the common denominator? The answer: the Criminal Class, the politicians did this to the Indians. It was they who made the treaties, and it was they who broke them. Most Americans had little or no knowledge of what treaties were made with the various tribes.

I sympathize with the Indians. They signed treaties with politicians in the Nineteenth Century, expecting them to keep their word. Deceit, treachery and betrayal are not Twentieth Century inventions.

Masons, Jesuits

and Zionists.

They are responsible.

I am not white.

But a very, very, very light brown which turns red with too much sun.
Would be a member of the Ojibwa Nations, but our government decides who is and who isn't a Native American.
grant

Ignore the elites that do the horrible things. It's my fault and

yours. Handy if you're part of the crimnal elite.

paradox

America is indeed a paradox of values. While the stated values of freedom and liberty and beautiful and enlightening, the de facto values of force and enslavement are always at work. It almost reminds me of the quote "when fascism comes it will be draped in a flag carrying a cross."

bookmarked for later

viewing

What they do to people who

What they do to people who don't subject to control.

Sounds interesting - will view later - 1st injustice was to.....

orginal natives

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

Powerful

video thanks for posting.

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