US Senate candidate confirms authorship of post lauding cop killer.
It appears that the original post was removed sometime last night (and I believe that this is a good thing). For those of you who missed it, a user named TomAlciere initiated a thread called "Fighting Back", in which he suggested that the recent assassination of a Seattle police officer was an honorable act of resistance to the government.
Upon learning that there is a Tom Alciere who is running for U.S. Senate (New Hampshire), I contacted him through his website (http://www.tomalciere.com) to ask if he had been the one who posted this disturbing thread, or if someone else was using his name.
I just received his email reply this morning, which follows in its entirety.
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Very disturbing to some persons, perhaps, but I confirm authorship.
Kindly remember, Jack, that it's DAILY PAUL, not DAILY JACK.
http://ronpaulquotes.com/chapters/2007-55.html#2007_Ron_Paul...
"Peaceful, nonviolent revolutions against tyranny have been every bit as
successful as those involving military confrontation. Mahatma Gandhi and Dr.
Martin Luther King, Jr., achieved great political successes by practicing
nonviolence, and yet they suffered physically at the hands of the state. But
whether the resistance against government tyrants is nonviolent or physically
violent, the effort to overthrow state oppression qualifies as true
patriotism."
-- 2007 Ron Paul 55:6Tom Alciere
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Quoting Jack Pelham :
> Mr. Alciere,
>
> I'm writing concerning a very disturbing post, made in your name, at Daily
> Paul. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/112954#comment-1228752
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> Would you please confirm for me whether you posted this? Or is this someone
> else who is using your name?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jack Pelham
>
i coulodnt agree more
i dont condone killing of anyone but there is no love here for the police state. hey are a corrupt institution for the protection of the rich plain and simple no conspiracy here just good old observation having spent time around 3 cops all neighbors and 4 attorneys. there is no justice its all a game.
Does anyone remember what happened
to Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr ? Where or what is the line you have to straddle between police that kill or tazer people without a second thought and our desire for peaceful return to republican ideals and a return to the rule of law?
hat is the common ground. It's easy to talk about what is necessary to make these things happen. Who is speaking for the folks in the courts or driving squad cars telling the people they serve how they plan to work with the public to make these things happen ? Have anyone reading these posts been through a misdemeanor file at their local courthouse ? These folks have a huge conviction rate..Not because everyone that comes before them is guilty of anything, it's because of the illegal means they use to acquire these convictions..99.6% is pretty close insofar as convictions are concerned. This is a fact..But you wouldn't know it unless you'd done the research into this as I have. .05% of the worlds population and 50% of the people in jail, or on parole..HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE A.POLICE STATE...IT'S INSIDIOUS, KILLS THE MEANING OF AND THE RULE OF LAW AND UNDERMINES THE CONSTITUTION AND OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS..SOME OF US ARE SICK OF IT. This enrages myself and others who have bothered to research and understand how this has come about. It's partly our own faults for not holding these cops, judges, prosecutors feet to the fire. But these people take an oath to uphold these truths,Constitutions and state laws and in actual practice could seemingly careless. This to me is a heinous violation of law and treason and should be prosecuted as such. So back to my question, given the complete absence of law in our courts by and large where do we go from here ?
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
Tom Alciere attitude is a sign of the times...
It is only the beginning...
So why kill a cop?
If this police officer's death represented the first shot in a war against governmental tyranny, why him? Why not some city clerk, or perhaps a county groundskeeper? Or why not start shooting members of the public who have supported tyrannical government by voting for tyrants? Or why not shoot the FedEx guy who delivers parcels to City Hall? Is he not complicit in the tyranny, too?
In none of these cases is any reform movement aided. These would all be murders---and senseless ones at that. If this officer was killed for political reasons, how weak is that? Does the shooter really expect that the entire Federal Reserve Cartel is going to collapse because a Seattle police officer was assassinated?
This is no revolutionary act. It is a senseless murder. And if senselessness is a "sign of the times"---if the response to this senseless "two-party system" and this senseless mainstream media and this senseless taxation-into-oblivion is simply to go out and commit ineffectual and random assassinations of local government employees.....
....then God help us, for the "solution" is as senseless as the problems.
Jack
Jack Pelham
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i here you
again i dont condone this behavior its criminal but if i gonna be honest im not sheading a tear.
Ah, Jack, now you are off and wrong
"Why him?"
You don't know. I don't know. The media will never let us know. This MAY have been random, it may have been that this cop was an evil SOB who got what he deserved but the media would NEVER let that out. We will learn every sordid detail of the shooter's life, but every dead cop is painted as a hero. Fact is, ALL dead cops were just humans, some were good, some were bad, most were a mix.
Why this one? We will never know. Maybe we just lost one of the few who really believed he was a servant of the people. Odds are pretty high that a power-hungry thug got taken out.
I am not applauding, but i am not condemning either. I am being HONEST - I do not know, the truth of this is not available to me from where I live. If anyone knew either of these men personally, I would be interested in their perspective. The rest of us are guessing.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Paul4won,
Nowhere do I claim to know the motives behind this shooting. The issue to which I am writing here is Tom Alciere's lauding of this shooting as an honorable "fighting back" against tyranny.
Since Alciere did not present any evidence of motive, I can only treat his (Alciere's) sentiments in the most general terms. Hence, the question "Why him?"
I do not presume to know why this particular shooter chose this particular target. My question is more general in nature: If it is honorable, why then is this particular target an honorable or even reasonable choice?
That, and nothing else, was the intent of my post.
Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
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Jack Pelham
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www.ruleoflawrestoration.com
Fair enough
Alciere is indeed, guilty of assigning a motive in the absence of knowledge.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
I agree but I disagree
I'll agree that killing the officer was wrong, but certainly not because the officer was innocent of wrongdoing against people. And your attempt to equate the actions of a person responsible for carrying a weapon to enforce the will of government upon people by the use of violence and a person working for a private company responsible for delivering packages is rather lame.
The reasons striking out against this police officer who was shot and killed isn't productive are simple. 1st, the majority of people still believe in the fairy tale of government, and as such see the armed thugs as legitimate enforcers of 'the law'. 2nd, at the time of the incident the officer wasn't threatening harm to anyone. That's it. Nothing more.
You see the armed thugs as 'legitimate'. I don't. Shooting them only makes the situation for people seeking liberty worse, as it's always used by government as an excuse to further restrict and infringe upon the liberties of all. So, you're right, but for the wrong reasons.
And God help me all if people who claim to follow Him think that they somehow have the right to steal from and oppress me.
I agree with your
overall premise; I have nothing else to say since the original post cannot be accessed, I didn't read it before, therefore I cannot verify the veracity of your initial assertion against this man...
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I would NOT vote for him even if he was a supporter of Dr. Paul!
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that makes
two of us.