The false premise held by Chemtrail believers.
They claim that a contrail dissipates quickly, but that a "chemtrail" persists for a long time. This conveniently allows them to point to any trail that's lasting a long time and call it a "chemtrail."
However, the premise is false. It's just made up, out of the blue.
"Condensation trails, or contrails, generated from high-altitude aircraft exhaust may affect climate because THEY CAN PERSIST FOR MANY HOURS." (Minnis, Patrick. Contrails, Cirrus Trends, and Climate. American Meteorological Society. Journal of Climate. 15 April 2004. p. 1671) (the link to this is posted below, as the spam filter wouldn't allow it in the message)
Now what? Are they going to conveniently claim that the American Meteorological Society is part of the conspiracy and coverup? Or will the information just be ignored? Part of being a genuine conspiracy theorist IS ignoring information that conflicts with the theory.
from NASA
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/nasaconphoto13oct04.shtml
What kind of clouds are these?
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I can hear the "debunkers" now.
"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan
the government has admitted they are chemtrailing
Now what?
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
dig deeper
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When asked what did you give us?
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ~ Benjamin Frankiln
The answer to 1984 is 1776! ~ Alex Jones
When asked what did you give us?
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ~ Benjamin Frankiln
MMJ, Do you have a link for this?
Where can I find such an admission?
Jack
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Rosalind Peterson on News with Views has many articles
with proof of activities conducted by the U.S. Government. Here is a link to the list of articles:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalindA.htm
i'll google it
it's been admitted for a while. they say it's about weather modification. they just had a show about it on the history channel.
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
History Channel Documentary Validates Chemtrails
History Channel Documentary Validates Chemtrails and Weather Warfare - High Definition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVjI-0uA9L8
Weather control
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
Very disappointing, MMJ
MMJ,
Two big problems here:
1. This video, which neither looks nor sounds like a History Channel production, is not to be found at www.history.com, along with all the other videos they have created. Now why would that be?
2. The Wikipedia article says nothing about US Government "confessions" of anything.
I was really hoping that the on putting forth the argument would have actual evidence for that argument. That's how it should be.
I know most people never bother to verify claims. Instead, they accept or reject arguments based on whether they want to believe them or not. This practice, however, is intellectually dishonest and it is a hugely counterproductive habit as it repulses those who are honest.
Jack
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Brzezinski
in 1970, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in Between Two Ages, that:
"Technology will make available to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised.....techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."
http://www.bariumblues.com/
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
Again, MMJ,
A prediction is hardly an admission.
I'm beginning to think you don't really have any evidence of the promised governmental "admission". I wish you would refrain from posting unsubstantiated claims in the future as it is a huge waste of time for those of us who actually vet such claims before we believe them.
Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
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www.arm.gov
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Citizen
I went to www.arm.gov and found nothing of the story. Can you send me a link to a specific page?
Jack Pelham
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Here you go Rule...
In the Instruments Section go to the Instrument Categories on the right click Aerosols go to
> NOAA Airborne Aerosol Instruments (NOAA-AIR)
then
> Aerosol Observation System (AOS)
then scroll down to
> Aerosol scattering
in the section "Primary Measurements Taken" click on Aerosol scattering
there is a link that reads (iapavg - In-situ Aerosol Profiles (Cessna Aerosol Flights), averaged at various flight levels)
http://www.arm.gov/measurements/measurement.php?id=aerosscat...
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thanks
there is tons of more info out there too Rule of Law Rev., just Google it.
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
weather modification legislation
Google that as well.
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When asked what did you give us?
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ~ Benjamin Frankiln
Persistent trolls are persistent.
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Carlin-
Don't let them get you down.
CHA-CHING!
CHA-CHING!
Carlin is already...
Down and out.
CHA-CHING!
I feel like you would have said the same thing about me a while
ago?
And do you like my signature? You should know the story behind it.
CHA-CHING!
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Just as an example,
Just as an example, perfectly clear, cloudless day here in Wisconsin. I am at a park with my son playing baseball. I look up and see 1 Chemtrail, 1/2 an hour later the sky is littered with them. It is so blantly obvious.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson
There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan
"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr
wow you found one example,
wow you found one example, that doesn't mention frequency, probabilities, or factors determining when longer lasting contrails occur.
you found one sentence with a page number. good for you.
i am not even a follower of the chemtrails topic, and it strikes me that you're an idiot.
(www.ARM.gov) First they denied spraying chemicals & aerosols...
Now they say we should consider starting these programs. All along they been doing it behind our backs. They are spraying chemicals into the air we all breath.
They are using climate change research as an excuse... so I automatically assume it's not for that reason. You may want to trust the people who keep lying to you but I don't. It may be a genocidal program for all we know.
This is just one government program which includes spraying aerosols with planes.
http://www.arm.gov/
By the way... part of being a de-bunker requires an open mind and a just a little more research than it appears you have done. Oh yeah, a little less condescension would help too. :)
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I cant believe how ignorant
I cant believe how ignorant some people are. Please take off your tinfoil hats and research the physical evidence about growing cirrus clowds.
Like car exhauts, jet plane exhausts change appearance depending on the air pressure, humidity and enviroment temperature.
When contrails change appearance, the plane is flying from one temperature, humidity, air pressure zone into another, or is changing altitude, which causes changes to temperature, humidity and air pressure as well.
Without these different zones we wouldnt have changing weather at all^^
Compare that to the exhauts of your car. In wintertime your car exhauts are white, and pretty consistant, while you dont see them at all in summerl.
Jet plane exhauts are frozen water cristals. These cristals, depending the temperature, air pressure and humidity tend to reproduce themselves, so that the cirrus clowds tend to grow sometimes, and sometimes not.
Its pure physics.
I dont want to negate that there are special planes with spraying devices for chemicals (like the ones that the Chinesse gov used recently to produce rain (though it actually caused snow, instead of rain:-D ) or chaff.
Or the hail planes for example (dont know the proper english term, it is called that way in Germany).
But such devices are definately not mounted on each and every general aviation plane!
Have a look on pictures 40 years ago. As today, you will see those contrails on almost every picture taken outdoors.
And keep in mind, that airplanes need to dump their fuel most times before landing.
And btw, remember the toilet flush on the rear end as well^^
Inform yourself and stop fear mongering for Gods sake please. It is embarrassing to see such threads in the Ron Paul forum, as it makes us all look stupid^^
Regards
Chris
Please take off your "less paranoid than thow hat" sir.
Have you for once considered the "tin foil hat" people might be right? You are obviously aware that these planes exist. You admit governments manipulate weather.
Do you deny the Tuskegee experiments and countless other government experiment on unknowing citizens? A healthy amount of paranoia is not only warranted. It's justified... sir.
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You ever wonder how many people the movement loses from
Embarssment?
I do. At some level they must feel like total dipsh!ts when the conspiracy theorists keep being right.
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No shit, but I'm no concerned, Id imagine a good 60% or more of those are shills doing a job and are never lost just regurgitated under a new alias once they realise after a few posts that they have been figured out.
Might feel sorry for the genuine idiots is 90% of them didn't come in guns blazing thinking we were uneducated and easy marks while providing nothing of substance themselves.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
LOL. I see what you did there!
I like it =)
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
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Agree with this. Welcome to
Agree with this. Welcome to the forum :) We know that weather modification/aerial spraying exists, but the idea that it is happening every day over every city in America doesn't seem realistic.
Ventura 2012
Pay attention and you might discover it is the case..
Just had 8 days of solid spraying, every single day started out with clear blue sky.. at last we are having a bit of a reprieve, 3 days in a row .. clear. Getting reports though from the East coast who had the clear days and are now being hammered..
By the way, I got the photos to prove it.