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Why I am afraid of Christians

Real, run of the mill, pew-filling Christians are the ones with goodness in their hearts, that could rally and save humanity, but they are spell bound. They are proud of it, in fact. They joyously spread “The Gospel” - literally “God Spell.” The “God Spell” is a specific occult style spell, and they are spreading it, happily, with joy in their heart. It reminds me very much of the way Bush spreads Democracy. They ignore the fact that the people who are enraptured by this spell have engaged in war since Christ was a a child, they ignore that the man they claim as savior told them not to make religions, they ignore that the men casting the God Spell are often shown to be pedophiles, and the mounting evidence that those at the very top are engaged in organ harvesting, human trafficking, and all manner of vile deed.

The God Spell is complete with its own mobius-strip logic, making it nearly impossible to free the enthralled. Their Holy Book warns them against anyone who speaks ill of their Holy Book, and so they will turn away from all reason and logic and feel pious for remaining dutifully, sanctimoniously and willfully ignorant. This “holy” book is supposed to be unchangeable, and yet the bookstores will offer you dozens upon dozens of versions. It debunks itself, there it is, in various forms. At best, it can claim it ought not be changed, but it gets changed anyway. Then we must decide which one is the holy one. The average Christian will tout the King James version, which again... was it God or King James who made it holy and unchangeable? Because if not James, then he changed it from the prior version. And it turns out, the Dead Sea Scrolls have been around a LONG time, and kept hidden as long as possible. Are those now less reliable than the King James version?

For the effort of using reason, I am called anything from “lost” to “evil.” “Faithful” is what the average Christian endeavors to be, and one who is full of faith has no room left for truth. There is a time to accept that a thing cannot be known, but rarely must one rely on faith to know what is true, or what action is the RIGHT thing to do.

People tend to rely on faith when they feel helpless, they “have faith” that God is in control. OK, I DO agree that the great machinations of the Universe are in the hands of something much greater than I. So what are you folks praying about? I think “Thy will be done” covers it all pretty well – it is truth at least. The occasional "Thank you" shows nice humility (if done quietly, in private,) but "Thy will be done" whether we thank "thy" or not.

It is no real big deal to me, to each his own, except now the Luciferians are about to take over the world. Hehehe, yeah, it sounds funny, doesn't it? Well, it is not. I don't know if “Lucifer” is real, I don't need to know. Luciferians are as real as it gets, and they are in positions of power in every major government, charity, corporation, school and CHURCH. Do your research, these people were in power long before governments, charities, corporations or schools existed. Where was the first power center?

Why do you people scare me? Because you believe leaning on Jesus makes you stronger. It does not, it makes you vulnerable to 1. A holographic Armageddon 2. A charismatic preacher 3. Becoming TOTALLY docile if you can be convinced Jesus wants it 4. Insisting on peace in dealing with the Luciferians “because it is what Jesus would do” while they send your children to murder Afghani and Iraqi children for entertainment. Face it, it is how they get off. They can have all the oil they want, they alreayd own the money printing presses. All they get out of us is entertainment. You are STILL being fed to their lie-ins. 5. Having them kick your crutch out from under you when you least can withstand it, because THEY built the crutch.

I believe the Creator put the knowledge of right and wrong in your heart. I believe you are being irresponsible to foist responsibility for your sins onto Jesus. I believe you are being led like sheep to the slaughter, and that the butchers laugh heartily each holiday season as you sing praises to the shephard THEY created.

I suspect Jesus was real and a rebel who caused the bankers an enormous amount of grief, so they made a mockery of all he did, in the same way Jefferson's head adorns our fiat currency. Truly, if you face it, most of the rituals of Christianity are as pagan as it gets. You are helping them with their spells, and feel righteous for your efforts. You scare me because you are the best bet in this battle and you are choking. Research your church like it was a false flag attack, please. Throw “faith” to the bottom of your bag of tricks, embrace TRUTH. Not like a religion; but like a journey, a mission, a rare jewel.

Will you always know the truth? Of course not. Then you must be humble enough to admit ignorance, not take some comforting “faith” and use it as blinders to any truth that may come your way.

I wish I could put what is in my head and heart through my fingers. You people ARE the good guys, you have awakened to so many of the lies... just not the one that mattered. YOU are the hand of the Creator, YOU will die, whether for your sins or your righteousness remains to be seen, but YOU have control over how you spend your time. YOU are the second coming, only you are sleeping right through your cues. You are under the God Spell. Please, please, wake up.

UPDATE: Thanks to all who commented, especially thanks to Fedor and Devon. I try to reply to folks when I post something, this got a bit out of hand, so I am not going to respond to any more comments. I am delighted this got people thinking and talking, but it is NOT my desire to keep this endlessly going.
Many folks are missing the point the the God Spell is a specific spell. You will be told the word means "good news." You get told a lot of things, folks... Look at it for yourself. It is old ENGLISH - not hard to translate that, now, is it? From "god" and "spel." Next, they will tell you that means "good" and "story." Really? I wonder what the Old English words for "god" and "spell" might have been?
Now, bear in mind that "spells' were OK back in the day, it was part of the healthcare plan. The pagans would have been OK with a spell, indeed if those Christians were into spellcasting, maybe they weren't so bad...? OK I am obviously speculating now, but I will tell you that modern pagans laugh at Christians and all the pagan rituals they perform. (And no, I am not a pagan either.)
The one question I got asked that hit home was "What would I have Christians do?" I guess in a nutshell, it would be to stop allowing ANY human between you and your Creator.
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Generalizing was a bad idea years ago

and still is!!

Rather broad brush you're waving around there, sport.

I couldn't care less what someone's beliefs are, I care about their actions. If they do business on the up-and-up and cause no harm to their neighbors, so what if they do it because they believe they'll be cast into a lake of fire if they don't behave?


"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel



Get the Beam Out of Your Own Eye

Though I understand how you feel about contemporary Christians in America, you need to realize that you are in no position to criticize them. The problem with most evangelical Christians can only be solved by a method which your worldview inherently rejects. Before you point fingers at another person's beliefs, you need to check your own to make sure it is itself logically coherent, morally consistent, and objectively true. That is the challenge I lay before you and all other non-Christians who seek to tear down the Christian religion because, philosophically speaking, no non-Christian worldview can adequately make sense of human existence, much less correct the perceived problems of Christianity.

i wish this thread were still going

this is what i am personally struggling with. I disagree with much of the article, but the underlying issue I need help with is on how to wake up my christian friends. I cant remember what woke me up. Does nayone have a ggood "wake up story" i could get ideas from. I Love God and believe He would want us to spread the truth like he always has. They look at me like im insane when i bring this up.

“Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy...." Adams. http://ronpaulgirl.com http://blogtalkradio.c

Ron, i respect that you are

i respect that you are entitled to your view and I support you enthusiasm for sharing it.

However, i did not agree with the notion that all Christians are essentially brain washed or so easily swayed without so much as a second thought which i feel was one of the implications of the above text.
i myself most certainly am not and I personally resent that notion. I am a MENSA member, I have an IQ off of the standard scale, and I began university at 16 years old, not just with a scholarship but actually being paid to attend and many other things. The idea that I would just accept things without weighing up the arguments with extreme caution and detailed study is, frankly insulting.
I understand that your view may be based upon certain individuals whom you may have encountered or even perhaps a large group, however, such sweeping statements.

Also I am afraid to tell you that your etymology of God Spel is incorrect. You claimed that it is old English, however if you continue with the etymology of the words and grouping of words, you will find that it goes back much much further than that and has no base within spells, witch-craft or anything like that.
the word is derived from 'bona adnuntiatio' in Latin and before that 'euangelion' before that, actually meaning, quite simply, evangelism or spreading the Good News and so in actual fact, it goes full circle and we arrive back at Gospel.

I like that people have a place where we can discus these thins like the civilized people that I believe we all are, however, I would respectfully ask that in the future, you would do your research a little more thoroughly next time.


Sorry Oddball,

You may not like it, but this observation is not uncommon or unreasonable. I suggest you resist being offended personally and take a look at why so many people view Christians as "brain washed". I think this is a real observation. I have witnessed it myself many, many times. I would also suggest you do some research. I think you may find a connection between the occult and some Jewish practices. It is not a stretch to connect "God spell" to the occult. As a matter of fact, it's probable. Again, I wouldn't take this as a personal attack, but a chance to wake up and make a change.

Real, run of the mill, pew-filling Christians

That's me.

And damn proud of it.

God Bless.

Paul4one, I am sure your intentions are pure, but don't assume that us God fearing people are so easily brainwashed.

We are all individuals.

Some of us have a bit of faith in mysticism. Some do not. We all have our roles to play, and our roles evolve and change over time.

There is not much more I can say about it, since this site really should stay away from mysticism. It cannot be proven. If it could, it wouldn't be mysticism.



Remember kids, Creator made man, man made religion and religion made the drug war, so don't blame Creator because of man's religious mandates, which is of course and always has been to legislate YOUR morality.

Stop being afraid and transform your perceived enemy

into your ally.

Learn how to instruct and connect with your feared adversary by relating to them with the truth that they know.

Fear only divides. That's your true enemy. (Got that Fedor?)

I always look to the life of Joseph in the bible. He was sold into slavery by his brothers who had nothing but malice in their hearts. But had it not been for their actions how else would Joseph, a Jew, become the prime minister of Egypt?

The bible takes a regular beating on the Daily Paul as a book of "mythology" or a "tool of the NWO" but in fact it's the consumate playbook for what so many here believe is our battle mission.

Here's an excerpt from another post titled, "Are You Encouraged by the Imminent Collapse of the Dollar?"

Consequently many of us struggle in a state of angst over the coming fall of the empire.

This paragraph describes to a T the experience of Joseph;
"I am going to enjoy looking for job, and sharing my resume of results with employers of a like mind; who will be not only in a position to pay me in 'sound money', but will also be happy to land an honest, trustworthy, and productive American who woke up to the obvious!"


and accusing Paul4won of being anti Christian or anti religious, like many members did here, did nothing to elevate her FEAR of Christians.

And choosing to disregard...

Sun Tzu is a fault many have come to regret.

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Well if you only feared God then you would not fear us!

He who does not know scripture is a FOOL!

Nicely done,

However I must say the title should have been Religions scare me. Crafty yarns spun to control entire populations.

Let me tell you why I am afraid of Athiests

Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot.

All saw humans as inventory, expendable to be used or disposed to create the perfect Utopian.

They were threaten by religion, which they saw as competition to their cult of personality as they made gods of themselves, and wrote their own humanist scriptures like Mao's little Red Book.

Can you show me any society or nation of atheists that have not sent their own people en-mass to gulags, or exterminated them, that were morally superior to admittedly flawed Christian ones?

Finally, your biggest flaw in your argument is that you try to understand Christ in solely logical terms instead of spiritual.
Call it enlightenment, mediation, revelation, nirvana, but in any case man has a spiritual nature that seeks the divine outside of his mortal senses. This spiritual nature of man cannot be attributed to genetic nature or nurture--If it was, so-called Darwin evolution that other promote would have weeded it out eons ago as totally unnecessary for our survival as a species, just as much as evolution should have eliminated all expression in music, dance, and other arts where man longs for things outside this dreary mortal experience. Such devotion to art would be laughably useless in the brutal genetic race for the survival of the fittest that evolutionist promote.

So just because your mortal mind cannot comprehend such divine things, does not give you the hubris to judge others who have experienced the divine with their spiritual senses--senses that even lay dormant within you, waiting to be used to search for truth beyond this world.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

Hitler was not an Atheist,

Hitler was not an Atheist, read his writings. You christians are a joke. Unintelligent, hypocritical, bigoted, and hateful. Just because your mortal mind cannot comprehend simple existence, does not give you the hubris(good one) to judge others who don't subscribe to supernatural mysticism. Talk about evil, the bible is nothing but.
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

Ignorance is bliss. Christians should not practice free inquiry nor socialize with non Christians:

Don’t associate with non-Christians. Don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them. 2 John 1:10

Shun those who disagree with your religious views. Romans 16:17

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Judge other religions for not following Christ:

Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22

Christians are “of God;” everyone else is wicked. 1 John 5:19

The non-Christian is “a deceiver and an anti-Christ” 2 John 1:7

Anyone who doesn’t share Paul’s beliefs has “an evil heart.” Hebrews 3:12

False Jews are members of “the synagogue of Satan.” Revelations 2:9, 3:9



Christian Mercenaries on crusade killing children in the Middle East. Semper Fi that.


You wrote below: "I'm scared of Christians because there (sic) too stupid to let this thread die. They keep bumping it!"

Why do you keep bumping it? And are you scared of yourself?

I apologize for bumping it again here myself. I didn't mean to. I'd delete this if I could.

I'm a cool Christian.

I am annoyed by uncool Christians. That pretty much sums it up. I don't care if it gets bumped or not. The thread does NOT offend me in ANY way.

I'm a cool Christian.

I am annoyed by uncool Christians. That pretty much sums it up. I don't care if it gets bumped or not. The thread does NOT offend me in ANY way.

Fedor.. I want to know what

Fedor.. I want to know what you have to do to be a Christian.... please tell me..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Don't denied that bad things

Don't deny that bad things aren't done by Christians.

But atheists cannot claim to be any better. So how they are morally superior?

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin


never said that. You did.

fedor,why are you using russian first name?

fedor,why are you using russian first name?


I am Russian. I support Putin and all my exKGB friends. Why?

After a lot of thought on this post I'd like to ask...

why are you afraid of anyone?

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because this

group is very powerful and could use that power to change things for the better or worse.

Sure, but every group (even of one) has...

unlimited potential power. For instance, just look at the change Ron Paul has made by running for president. Look at the influence his small band of followers have made. Is that based on his previous years of kinetic activity, or simply a result of this single presidential run? Or is it because of both or neither? So, is potential or kinetic energy more important in facilitating change? And what does fear do to one's potential to influence change in any given situation. Also, what does fear do to kinetic power? I'd speculate that it dissipates and scatters it into useless bits that fizzle out like sparks from a fire.

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OK. This poster fears Christians. Pretty simple. I assume she doesn't mean all Christians. She does a pretty good job describing the type of Christian she fears. The topic is pretty clear. She has some legitimate concerns and they are worth taking a look at. No big deal.

So I used my influence to change the focus...

of the thread...why be afraid of ANY group? You used the word "concerns", the thread maker used the word "fear". I asked why fear anyone? What does fear do - it ceases imagination, it binds gumption and it pressures thought into "frustration". So, why fear? Why offer your potential to destruction before you can use it? Simple question.

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