****Ron Paul to pass on 2012 in favor of Gary Johnson??**** WE MUST SAY NO WAY!

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I have seen quite a few claims like the one posted here http://www.politics1.com/ tonight ----claiming that Gary Johnson is going to be the Ron Paul candidate in 2012 and that Dr. Paul will pass if Johnson decides to run. WE CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN!

I respect Gov. Johnson and I am glad he is on our side but he will not be able to keep the Ron Paul coalition together. He is a good ally, but much like Jesse Ventura, is quite limited in his appeal.

I am not saying that Ron Paul is the only guy who can lead a freedom movement, but I know for certain that I will never be able to support either Johnson or Ventura at the top of a ticket.

Recent news suggest Dr. Paul is making stops in Iowa and South Carolina. He said over the weekend that he is at least thinking about the possibility of running again in 2012. If we want any real chance of making a difference we should stay focused on supporting Dr. Paul UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT HE RULES OUT A RUN, and not let ourselves become distracted by the Johnson or Ventura sideshows.

Again, I respect Gov Johnson and I am glad he is on our side, but if he is handed the freedom mantle, many people who supported Ron Paul, myself included, will not be able to support him.

RON PAUL 2012

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Gary Johnson

I like Gary Johnson. He'd be my third choice behind Ron or Rand Paul.

If Ron doesn't

run I would like to see Rand go for it. He seems to be the epitomy of his father and is in it for the right reasons. Very smart well spoken man. His dad raised him well and would never try to control him but I am sure Rand would stick to almost all of the principles his father holds dear. I'm sure they would discuss things;)

Paul/Napolitano 2012

Name recognition.
Millions of people know the Judge through Beck, O'Reily, Hannity, Fox news.
The Italian-American Community will come out in mass for the good Judge, just to get the first Italian American in Whitehouse.
When Dr. Paul needs someone to clean house, getting a no BS guy from New Jersey, a judge no less, who is not afraid to speak his mind and speak the truth is what we need.
No two men know the constitution better than these two who also are able to create a new brand of libertarian Republican that the GOP needs.

After they announce, they form a Liberty Coalition to help team build to include. Ventura, N. Wolf, Nader, Goldwater, Woods, Shiff, Johnson, Adam K. and Rand Paul and other Liberty minded people.

All men and women who have a common interest in the Liberty and Freedom movement. The need to work together to stop what is coming is needed. We have a common enemy; neocons, socialists and people who believe in economic fasism.

Americans unite!

This may be our last chance.....

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E Pluribus Unum

After looking at the alternatives...I must agree. It's Paul or

we've lost the momentum to pull off an upset and save this country.

Hard to believe Dr. Paul would pass on this opportuity...after all the work...the thousands of interviews & guest apearences...the now worldwide name & platform recognition. If Ron runs...he can ( in my mind ) easily pull together the REAL republicans & Libertarians...plus all of the disenchanted & disenfranchised voters who consider themselves to be democrates or independents etc.

It will not require a BIG $$$ campaign fund...as people are aware of and tired of the "purchased politicians" and the favors they owe their masters. .

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If Ron Paul doesn't want to run in 2012

that's his decision. I think people should lay off and let him decide. He's older now and all the strenuous work involved would take a tremendous toll on his health. I'd rather have him live longer and teach more.

2012 is a long way off...

If we start in-fighting as to "who is the heir-apparent" every time someone spits out a story concerning the next election, then it's going to seem an even longer way off!

Look, RP may not have made a decision yet. So be it. But the groundswell continues. By 2012, hopefully, we will be ready for a constitutional government and a return to fiscal and social sanity. Hell, look where we are already.

Let's not get the cart in front of the horse here. I'm supporting Ron Paul for president in 2012. If he does not feel up to it and passes the torch, I will decide at that time if the person he passes it to is worthy of my support.

In any case, I will follow no one blindly.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Good Grief

YOU NEED NAME RECOGNITION!!!!! Gary Johnson doesn't have it.........Ron Paul..........NOW..........has it!!!

baubaublacksheep

Johnson would be a good

Johnson would be a good running mate, but not yet a Presidential Candidate. But if he was to be Ron Paul's VP for one term and then ran for President after studying under Dr.Paul for four years..." you'd have something sweeter than yoohoo ".

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I hope Nader runs again

It would be good to aee a Johnson Nader ticket.

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This country still needs a Doctor.

Its Ron or Rand (assuming he wins his Senate seat!) for me.

Can we even post anymore?

I got this in a post a few minutes ago here:

"Your comment has been queued for moderation by site administrators and will be published after approval"

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The timing is excellent for Ron Paul to win

by 2012, but only if he picks a very well known running mate like judge napolitano, etc.... For those of you who are naysayers, allow me to remind you that the economy is fast going in the toilet and that one more year of this nonsense and people are going to get far more dissatisfied than they are right now. And, right now, the majority are pretty darn displeased!!!!!!

betty

Let's Be Real

as much as we all would love to see RP run again .... it is not going to happen ...
and yes, Johnson would most likely run as a (yuck) Republican -
if Ventura ran Independent ... I will give him support and vote ....
if not - and we have Johnson - he will be a good one to vote for...
I just long for the day when people will vote for the message / philosophy
and not a party.

Narrow minded

OK, I'm not passing judgment on who should run. But we cannot be so quick to dismiss strategy, and some of your claims are completely divorced from reality. You attack Ventura as being of "limited appeal," as if Ron Paul appealed to such a huge base.

Face it: we NEED to grow this movement. Maybe Ron Paul will do it. Maybe Rand Paul, Jesse Ventura, Gary Johnson, John Stossel, or someone ELSE will do it. Let's NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS!

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Ron Paul 2012!

Nothing less. I don't buy the story.

Real eyes realize real lies

2012, we want our country back

2012 is the year for Ron Paul!

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why?

Paul will do what he wants to do...You can't force him to run, right?

Why can't you support Johnson? You never list a reason. So if Paul decides not to run, you won't support any other liberty candidate? I am so confused I always thought the Paul campaign of 2007 was about the message not the man running.
Look if I was going to be turning 76 the last thing I would want to do is run for president. So why on earth are would you want to put so much pressure on someone you obviously care a great deal about. Your post makes no sense.

Its always been about the message and never about the man...otherwise we are no better than the obama worshipers.

your'e right

it is the message...but, it's the man too. Ron Paul's depth of understanding in economics, D.C. politics, foreign policy, etc. dwarfs any and all comers. His combination of Doctor's experience, being a family man, politician, and economist are the perfect combination for our country right now. Everything has come together in one man who at this moment is giving the right message. All the other liberty candidates are following his lead, they have the chance of being great candidates too...Dr.Paul just has about 30 years more experience delivering the Liberty message than the rest. ;)

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Again

No Name Recognition..........zilch......you think Ron Paul had a problem with name recognition last go round? That's nothing compared to how little name recognition this guy has.

baubaublacksheep

Totally agree

But would Johnson be a Republican?

After Dr. Paul comes Judge Napolitano for me.

Agreed.

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I would support both Ventura

I would support both Ventura and Johnson. Ron Paul is too old to run and win, its just that simple. If things are REALLY bad by 2011, and people are REALLY desperate, then the superficial sheeple MIGHT be able to look the other way on the age issue.

Ventura 2012

it is a shame elders are demonized

Or rather, mostly senile. Grandfather figures used to be very positive. Can anything reverse this in a few years?

Could Dr. Paul's gambit that people will listen to his messages on Youtube by then work? If things get worse, I don't see people concluding "now we'll live with someone old", but instead "we need real change", which is exactly the message Dr. Paul espouses.

Ventura

Ventura is more of a conspiracy theorist than a conservative.

IMHO

I know but beggars cant be

I know but beggars cant be choosers.

Ventura 2012

Constitution Party

Well I'd vote for Chuck Baldwin again before Ventura.

idk why but that guy just doesn't excite me. He focuses all on conspiracy theories and never on any aspects of conservatism (for lack of a better word.)

Paul actually talks about real issues unlike Ventura.

I actually like Baldwin far better than Ventura

But I really think Ventura is more likely to win because he is a "fighter."

I read one of Ventura's

I read one of Ventura's older books. He is not really an idea guy, but he is a free thinker, moderately libertarian, and is spot on on the most important issues like the war and the police state. Sure you could vote for the more ideologically pure LP or CP, but Ventura might have a shot at winning as a third party candidate because he is a celeb that can break through the media blockade.

Ventura 2012

Sure

...sure. Dennis Kucinich is good on police state issues too. Why not vote for him? Or maybe Mike Gravel. Fat chance that guy would ever be president.

And why is he better than Ron Paul? I'd even prefer Rand Paul running to that guy if he wins the senate seat.

Ventura believes 911 was an inside job right?