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It’s time to take over the GOP…

"I know many of my fellow Tea Party activists are going to hate me for this, but it’s time to face reality. The Republican Party must be our vessel in 2010.

Let’s face it. The passage of Pelosicare last weekend was the equivalent to the modern day “Stamp Act.” You see, when the stamp act was put in to action back in 1765, the folks began realizing that their government was asserting significant authority over their lives, even though the people had not found the action permissible.

We the people will accept certain levels of authority to exist, but only to the extent we deem acceptable and only as long as we have the ultimate control over the outcome."

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How about this.

We can support the best candidate when the time comes, whether they're republican, democrat or third party. I think that would be a good idea.

Secondly, everyone can choose the option they think best: take over the GOP, build a third party support, or educate everyone they come in contact with.

Most people are doing something and not arguing about the best option. We will not all suddenly come to a consensus about what to do, so perhaps we should just get moving.

we're not asking you to go to a convention...

but if you become a precinct committeeperson you have voting rights in your county party - and a list of all the R's in your precinct - and it's your responsibilty to keep them informed ...very handy during the primaries:)

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And who attempting this takeover

has more money than the neo-cons? No one!

We keep splintering the (r) and the (d) will take care of itself. We will end up with a majority and the need for a new political party will become evident.

LOL

A new party! Ha. Try to get into any of the debates with your new party. Good luck winning anything.

Rand Paul has more than Trey

Rand Paul has more than Trey Grayson. Ron Paul had more than quite a few neo-cons. Peter Schiff is competitive. We can do this.

Ventura 2012

Kokesh is also....

keeping pace financialy with the incumbent he's running against....

and Ron Paul outraised them all in the last quarter before the primaries in 07:)

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Obama spent

what... nearly a BILLION dollars getting elected? Not to mention the ten billion dollars worth of free, fawning press... He wasn't elected. He was coronated.

No doubt- Ron's fund raising was inspirational. It was "pure from the heart" and should be how the system works. But it doesn't right now. That's just the hard reality.

All these Liberty candidates are fighting deeply entrenched BIG money. It's gonna take more than a couple of bake sales and "money bombs" to win. And we're not going to win by going through "the front door" unless you've got a billionaire uncle waiting in the wings. The Liberty candidates will be a token "statement" at most. A sternly-worded letter...

I hate being so negative on this thread- I truly do. But the facts are we are heavily "outgunned" and outmanned. If we had the resources to take-back the Republican party right now, we wouldn't have to. And all the ra-ra, feel-good, "don't give up" denial of reality crap ain't gonna change that. This is a real pickle we're in.

We need a seminal event that slaps people en-masse back into awareness and makes them want to think and not just react. A "too big to ignore" breakdown of their paradigm. For many (most) this might be the first time in their life they actually thought for themselves.

We've gotta be ready with solutions... and pray for a break.

I have attended the last

I have attended the last couple of GOP meetings in my county, and let me tell you, they are fuming mad with the Hiearchy and Leadership of the party. I am not sure this the GOP can just walk in and buy the votes. People are pissed off (Ass opposed to pissed on) and fed up.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

Remember...

a whole lot of those who donated to Obama were duped into thinking they were supporting an anti-war candidate....

Lift the veil and that support walks - it's already happening.

And yes this revolution has a rich uncle - Lawrence Lepard.

And my rich Aunt?...well I'm easing her in here:)

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This is what the EST. fears the most.

Whewww, I glad to see most here on Daily Paul have given up on taking over the Republican Party. This will make it so much easier to continue the false left/right paradigm.

The party loyalist would like to thank all those on this site who discourage taking over the Republican Party. You are friends to the Neo-Conservative movement, THANK YOU.

Beside taking over the Republican Party is just too much hard work. Why bother when there is so much to do like watch American Idol. Man, did you catch last night episode? Epic!

Some guy name Rand Paul thinks he can have some kind of influence on the Republican Party, silly rabbit. This Paul guy needs to read some comments on this thread and he will learn quickly to leave well enough alone.

Take the advice of the PRACTICAL, INTELLIGENT folks on this site and JUST GIVE UP AND GIVE IN. You are a tiny, powerless individual facing a behemoth group of collectivist. Stand down, shut up and stay home your government is looking out for your interest.

HAVE A NICE DAY ;-)

Point made.

I hear you and I agree with you in principle. As a matter of pragmatism, however...

During the Primary, when it could have made a difference, I talked like a dutch-uncle to my (now former) business banker about Ron's platform. My banker was also (at the time) the Chairman of our County GOP and very active in "all things Republican". He was so hardcore party-line that he would not even listen- didn't want to hear any of it. He called me a fool- Fringe, nut-case, tin-foil hat, blah, blah, blah. It destroyed our relationship (and in the process imperiled my business).

The new chairman is every bit as closed-minded, with the added qualities of being an ignorant racist (but boy, do "the guys" just love him!).

TPTB (at least in my area), don't want to hear our message. The cognitive dissonance induced by even considering another outlook is simply too painful. They will resist any attempt that threatens their dogma. And, these are the very people who decide "who gets in the club"- and who doesn't.

Maybe the odds are different in your area... I don't know. Where I am, it's about 100-1.

haha awesome. Its amazing

haha awesome. Its amazing how many defeatists we have here. It is one thing to try to infiltrate and get discouraged, but another to sit on your ass and desparage the movement.

Ventura 2012

SCB - Discouraged but not done :)

These people LOATHE me. I am kicking up so much crap they don't know what to do with me. However I am coming up surprised as to who is actually leaning our way now. Do not despair.

Pray for me. I'm in it deep.

***
Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

I went to my County GOP Meeting

Tuesday night and stuck-out like a porkchop at a Jewish picnic. I went home with a near-sense of despair. It was nothing but a 2-1/2 hour long regurgitation of all the essential Fox News talking-points. A Sarah Palin lovefest... "That purty lil ol girl's got some good common-sense idears". "It's just a damn-shame Dick Cheney won't run..."

All the "big and important" local folks were there. County Commissioners, the Sheriff, various office-holders, owner of the local newspaper, etc. In short, the opinion leaders- Those who shape the "debate", frame the arguments and present the solutions to the community. A real "brain-trust" of big thinkers... (sarcasm)

The ultimate irony (to me) was that this roomful of "republicans" were poking constant fun at "RINO's" while continually thumping their chests and referring to themselves as "real conservatives". Bitching about this or that "socialist" program of the Obama administration and then in the same breath worrying about possible cuts to their Medicaid drug "benefits" or Social Security. What blind hypocrisy-

I left the meeting thinking... No Way- these are not "our peeps" and they're never going to be. The dogma and the mental disconnect is just too deep. They actually believe that "terrorists hate us for our freedoms" and all the other silliness they've been programmed to accept. They have no interest and are infact doggedly-resistant to anything that threatens their purview. They don't want to know the truth... they're much happier living in the comfort of their Eisenhower-era cold-war mindset and focusing instead on "who's gonna win the football game Friday night"? Them boys have been lookin' purty good out there...

Dammit! The Democrats are Communists- the Republicans are brain-dead and our purposefully engineered binary system is designed to repel any and all attempts at a third-party. What in the HELL are we supposed to do with that?

Yes... I'm disgusted.

edit: corrected spelling- oops!

C'mon now Gary

You know we MUST discuss the next "bronze elephant party" and how much money we can raise for whatever candidate they are peddling us. We get a technology update and a legislative update but NO DISCOURSE that amounts to anything. Meanwhile, the world melts.

***
Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

On the bright side, they are

On the bright side, they are so dumb that they will vote for who we tell them to vote for, as long as we can sneak through the primaries.

Ventura 2012

Wow, X!

You and I fully agree on something!

I know it's a rare occurrence, so I thought I'd write a celebratory post for the occasion.

Jack

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.com

If Ron Paul runs again in 2012...

he will run as a Republican....so isn't giving up on the republican party now kind of like giving up on Ron Paul?

Dr. Paul's words on the issue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3OWku4EKsc

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But if you got back in....

and became a precinct committeeperson - you would have a list of the R's in your precinct - comes in handy when the primaries roll around....

do you live in an open primary state?

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Don't go alone...

take family, friends, post the meetings on your C4L meetup...join the RLC....and take them all along with you!

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I felt

the same way you did after leaving mine. All it is is a anti-harry reid cluster fuck.

I did get a chance to ask a queation though. I asked , why are we not using our time to review the candidates voting records and stances on positions?

They quickly got back in the groove about how we need to stick together and beat the devilish dems

We can't do it alone

We need permanent converts.

However, making inroads into the party are how you get people to listen to you.

Defend Liberty!

Sadly, I agree

To vote for Dr. Paul, I registered Republican for the primaries and then re-registered independent for the general election. It was the only way I could keep my independent status and still vote for Dr. Paul. I will do it again if necessary to get the country back on track.

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

You'll stand just as good at chance at....

...taking over the Democratic Party.

They are both corrupt by DESIGN. And their owners simply won't let anybody "take over".

If we, the people, must "face" something, why not face the truth about the corruption of the parties, rather than the lie that we will do ourselves any favors by supporting the underdog brand of corruption?

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.com

Sorry to burst your bubble Jack...

but it's already happening - county by county.

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Zak,

Write me back when you've managed to get Congress to start repealing unconstitutional acts and I'll admit that I'm wrong.

What you're going to discover is that the "county by county" business is not the foundation of the Republican Party, but that it is merely the front for the scheme. The real business of the Party happens behind closed doors in Washington. They will NOT be bossed around by a bunch of county coordinators shaking a Constitution at them.

Jack

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.com

To open up those doors in DC...

We start by taking the party over at the county level...then the state...

Eventually liberty republicans will find themselves behind those doors to open them up...

Rand, Schiff, Kokesh and others are attempting to work at the top in taking the party over as elected representatives....others like me are working from the bottom up....it's the firmest ground to support them from.

Yes this will take time, but I'm patient.

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And how much time do you have, Zak?

You listed about 20 liberty/Constitution candidates for various offices. And in this whole nation, there are probably something like:

435 in the US House
100 in the US Senate
50 Governors
5,000 or so in the state legislatures
150,000 county commissioners (3,141 counties @ 5/county)
210,000 city council members (30,000 cities @ 7/city).
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That's somewhere around 365,000 elected officials who REGULARLY violate the US Constitution, their state constitutions and their county and city charters.

Given the recent rate of decline in the rule of law and in the government-recognized rights of man, just how long do you have to win this 20--to--365,000 race?

Will we make it to 2010 without martial law? How about 2012? When do they come for the guns? When do they start putting dissidents in jail? When do they turn off the Internet for dissidents? When do they erase the borders for the North American Union?

How much time do you really have for being patient, Zak?

And why shoot yourselves in the foot by having to first "take over" a corrupt party, and secondly, to convince the rest of the nation that you can be trusted, UNLIKE the very party whose name you are determined to keep.

What a needless bunch of red tape. Why not just go independent and really get something done?

This is no time for "diplomacy"; this is the time for leadership. It's time to call it like it is and to nail the Republican Party for its corruption.

What needs to happen is that all these folks you mention need to LEAVE the Party all on the same day and to say why they're doing it. Gut that party and bleed it dry. Quit supporting it.

You can't run Republican without feeding the Republican beast. They're just going to end up making things worse in the hopes that "patience" will pay off. But I ask you, for how many years now has this campaign of patience been going?

How much time do you really have, Zak?

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.com

You can't run Republican without feeding the Republican beast.

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!

You don't become part of the disease to cure the disease.