WARNING: If The Fed Is Abolished...
Thinking logically here...
Right now a truckload of USDs are sitting in banks globally. We have a huge debt that is still stable enough to keep the economy going and maintain our way of life and stability in the world regardless of ASSUMED debt liabilities. Should the Federal Reserve be abolished or even prior whats stopping these banks from flooding the world with USDs? $24 Trillion of'em.
My thoughts are that the attack on the federal reserve will be what actually CAUSES THE COLLAPSE. Think about it, with the fed gone at this moment in time it will be a huge catastrophe, dollar will be bust, stores will be empty, Americans will be poor, and the government will remain huge and powerful while dealing with the chaos that will ensue afterward. This is what happened in Iceland recently but their Corp Gov can't compare with ours.
Of course one can assume someone like myself taking an alternative viewpoint than that of the MOB will be attacked. But I know I'm right because, unfortunately, I'm rarely ever wrong.
What I feel we really need to do
Cut our Corp US (US Government Corporation) down to size first (end wars & bringing troops home from all over the world will save us TRILLIONS). STOP ISSUING BONDS COMPLETELY!!!! Just as before the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 (Bonds started only AFTER the corporation was defined post civil war). With less taxes and greater economic spending our economy will recover along with the dollar, gold prices will come down to a more stable level making a stronger dollar.
Once our cash in-flow and out-flow are stabilized we can then abolish the Federal Reserve in a controlled fashion over time which will help maintain order and reserve the chaos to the closet under lock and chain.
I fear that where the momentum is going now will lead to a huge collapse and cause more than a decade worth of economic damage because of the brash decisions of the MOB.
Another factor to consider is the resurgence of the Original Jurisdiction Republic occurring, In New Jersey State (not the state of new jersey, a state corporation) I elected, as an Elector (Landowner or Heir to a Landowner), David Michael Cook as Governor for New Jersey State. If all goes well the Original Jurisdiction Republic will be seated by 2012 which will be able to capture and control Corp US. I know this to be true because I actually went to the Courthouse and submitted my document, I am also in the process of securing my land patent.
But;
I beg of everyone to submit their attention to this argument and think logically for a moment to attempt to determine weather this argument warrants further investigation in the grassroots in order to secure the future for the united States of America.
Thank you for your time.
inquiring mind
What evidence definitively proved the existence of corp. US to you?
How can an original jurisdiction position overthrow a corporation?
What is your take on fractionalizing your own money via proper understanding of uniform commercial codes?
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Fly in the ointment
Whatever happens, if you interfere with the FED you're not going to magically be fixing fiat currency. Either debtors or creditors will be screwed, and neither scenario is pretty.
So yeah, looks like something could be about to blow up in some people's faces, one way or the other.
If you weren't a local merchant
and had a scrip set up with other businesses in your town you'd have a big problem. If the FED pulled all the currency out of circulation the way the did previous to 1929, which caused the depressionary economic atmosphere then, we'd collapse. If your not someone that produces things to eat, and the things vital to living day to day your gonna problems. I've told my family forever, especially after hurricane Ike (I live in the Houston area) I asked them look at the way we're living, do you or do you not feel a little vulnerable. I mean if the gasoline doesn't show up we're immobile, we cant eat (Trucked in food to the stores can't make deliveries without fuel) We for all intents. We lose power, you can't make electricity without fuel...Your a hostage..We've all got to wake up and get something local, town to town..There are alot of towns that are starting to make their own biofuels, it's easy as they already grow their own food, growing the stock for the fuel just goes into the rotation year after year. Just a thought. Why do you think that hemp has been outlawed forever, it's an excellent source for biofuel...Without it your more a slave and you wont compete with the slave maker gasoline....Get busy.
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
It sounds like all the FED
It sounds like all the FED propaganda is working.
Because without the FED and the Bankers the sun won't come up, the rivers will dry up, the plants won't grow and all the abilities that were granted to us by god will no longer function.....
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." -- Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863
"Banks lend by creating credit. (ledger-entry credit, monetized debt) They create the means of payment out of nothing." -- Ralph M. Hawtrey, Secretary of the British Treasury
"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it." -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)
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"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace."
This is not about wealth,
This is not about wealth, this is about survival. I'll be damned if i'm going to watch my family and my Countrymen starve because of some Luciferian International Bankers.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
Okaaaayyyy...
so we should support our Local Luciferian Bankers?
Is it better to die and be free, or be a slave and fed?
Get your family prepared for the worst, that way if the worst occurs, they will survive!
ooh im scared
we can't even get a decent audit yet and your worried about abolishing.
Personally I think they are "too big to fail".
I get the impression they having Pelosi hold back until they can find a way to fully use it to their advantage..perhaps blaming the collapse on the audit. Let's see what a few more stimu'lie' do....lol...sigh.
I dunno.
incrementalism
First we audit them
Then we begin to diminish their power and transfer their authority to the Dept of treasury, other banks etc.
We allow gold to be money again.
We allow competing currencies
No longer any need for the fed.
It will take 10 - 20 years
We might not all make it, but we, the american people, will be free again.
Incrementalism only works in the opposite direction
Power doesn't suffer rivals. Do you think Saddam Hussien would've allowed an opposition party the time to get well established? He would've had them all murdered. I don't think you can expect anything different from the fed. They know if they give an inch they'll be toast. IMO auditing the fed and ending it are the same thing.
I cannot say if auditing the FED...
will create the next step being dissolution, but I'd take aim at the idea that incrementalism is inherently bad. For example, if a man is smothering under a load of stone then each stone you remove will aleviate that load by the amount you just removed. It may take time to reach the ultimate goal (the freedom of the man), but you only reach the freedom by removing each piece of weight entrapping him. This is an example of incrementalism as a force for good. Another question to ask is, how does one awaken to the fraud we are suffering under today? Does all the information and do all the pieces amass immediately, or does it come in starts and fits? Again I'd argue that for some this start and fit is the case; incrementalism as a constructive action. Maybe I'm misreading your post, and if I am I apologize, I'm not trying to chastize, but rahter to point out that many concepts are not inherently colored by good or evil, rather they are adopted for a use that can be valued to be good or bad. The methods of evil are often the methods of good, but the variable is the means of use for a desired goal.'
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
I agree!
This is why I question the audit of the Fed in the back of my mind. An audit will lead to abolishment.
I feel we are pointing the finger at the wrong people here. Despite the fact that the Fed IS EVIL it takes congressional spending in order for the Fed to produce currency. We need to stop spending first before we get rid of the Fed as not to derail our economy giving it all to China and the like.
Is getting rid of the Fed, which was the first thing implemented, the smartest thing to do right now? I would imagine that we would have to unravel the situation the opposite way we got into it, from the bottom up.
We are trying to knock off the head of the beast without realizing what kind of chaos would ensue when you have a beast without a head going in all directions. We need to cut the limbs out first and strike the head last.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
OK maybe I missed something but,
how can you stop the spending without cutting up the credit card?
FreeMan- Excellent thinking,
FreeMan- Excellent thinking, once again a number of you guys start thinking outside the box. Way to go! Anyway, I do like your idea, but what would happen once they know the clock is ticking. They will not go down without a fight, I can assure you of that, and they can still destroy the Dollar at will.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson
There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan
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The clock is already
The clock is already ticking... but its ticking in their favor.
I believe our biggest concern should be how much were SPENDING not how much were printing. Printing and borrowing is the only thing keeping us alive right now and if we try to stop that it will be like crashing into a brick wall.
By cutting spending it will automatically cut printing which will lead to lower inflation. Cutting spending to the point of surplus will STOP printing, which is the same as getting rid of the Federal Reserve when it comes to creating inflation. Competing currencies can handle the controlled interest rates that the Fed institutes.
Taking that surplus and paying down debt will again put faith in the dollar and may convince Countries to re-adopt or continue hold dollars as their reserve currency if they haven't already dropped it. Once the Fed becomes a moot point it can be abolished without any nil effects on the economy.
Can anybody argue with me here?
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
Competing currencies
I believe the way Dr. Paul describes solving this problem would be to implement competing currencies.
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