Black haired people and green beans a very big problem/or why I fear street sweepers.

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Has anyone noticed how many black haired people throw their green beans on the floor and step on them? This is a major problem. I heard of two black haired people that did this so that means that all black haired people do this.

I believe that it is crazy to do this to green beans, therefore all black haired people are crazy. And, we need to make sure and call them crazy and really piss them off so they just decide to go somewhere else and do nothing.

I mean really, those crazy green bean stepping on, black haired people, are harming the freedom movement. The thing is they don't know how harmful they are so we need to harp on it constantly. You see they have no right to their own beliefs cause I think it is crazy.

Further more all people employed as street sweepers scare me. They are harming the freedom movement also.

I just want to say that I don't mean to offend anyone, and I hate to group people, cause I believe in individual freedom of thought. EXCEPT FOR BLACK HAIRED GREEN BEAN STEPPERS AND STREET SWEEPERS.

I propose that we try to alienate and talk bad about all people in these groups. We must work as a group to call them crazy and show that we are the superior freedom group think folks.

I am the libertarian Pol Pot, I believe we must purge all people that don't believe in nothing like I do. These crazy black haired green bean steppers are harming the freedom movement, I repeat harming the freedom movement. We must all think alike. Hurry and call them crazy all of them aren't mad yet.

I saw one black haired person step on a turnip, they are crazy I tell you crazy. I did I mention they are harming the freedom movement.

I noticed something else, when you attack their crazy green bean stepping beliefs, they don't change their mind and agree with you. That proves they are crazy, and harming the freedom movement.

Whatever we do, don't discuss economics, HR 1207, preparedness for what is coming, electing real freedom candidates, anything that will accomplish anything. That is just what the crazy black haired green bean steppers and street sweepers want, and that is why I fear them.

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Christians for Peace
We are Christians who believe that the teachings and life example of Jesus Christ is normative for Christians today. Jesus' central message is proclaiming the kingdom of God. This kingdom is unlike any other--where the poor, meek, persecuted, and the least are blessed, while the rich and proud are condemned. Jesus is the servant king, who builds his kingdom by serving others and commands his disciples to do likewise. War, forced capitulation through physical domination, is the antithesis of Jesus' ministry. Therefore, we oppose all wars.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Two young blonds just came to my door

They wanted to tell me about Jesus.

:-)

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Of Mountains, Rivers, And Woods,
But It Is A Principle......
And Patriotism Is Loyalty To That Principle .
- George William Curtis

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
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Call a spade a spade ...

but never call a group of spades, spades.

There might be a diamond in there somewhere hiding.

Hate a person.

Do not hate a group.

I hate Hank Greenburg ...

He is an aipac, zionist jew ...

So is it logical that I should hate all zionists, all aipac members, and all jews?

Of course not.

I hate him for one reason ....

He uses his influence to take money out of my pocket to spend on his agenda via government taxation and corporatism by lobbying for particular legislation.

He is one of thousands of people that do this. I hate him.

Is he a jew, yes. Are they all jews, no.

Is he a zionist, yes. Are they all zionists, no.

Hate a man. Do not hate groups.

If you disagree, I am going to label you a bigot and have nothing to do with you.

Call them out one at a time. Name by name. And let the chips fall where they may.

I hate Obama. Does that mean I hate all blacks? All presidents? All democrats? All people with Islamic names?

STOP taking the easy way out that bigotry offers and take the long road by calling individuals out.

Or if you really want to take the extra long path, hate a particular thought from a particular individual.

God Bless.

WAHOR!!
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LOL! beautiful . . .

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

come to think of it, I have been watching what people do to their green beans for a LONG time--

ROTFLOL!

And . . . I think I hear street sweepers this morning; I think they are out in force--

It's nice to have a place to share these fears--

:)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Christian problem. No doubt.

Prince serves as vice president of the Edgar and Elsa Prince Foundation. Salon reports that "between July 2003 and July 2006, the foundation gave at least $670,000 to the Family Research Council, which his family founded, and $531,000 to Focus on the Family"[16] headed by James Dobson. The foundation is also a major donor to Calvin College[17], a Christian institution in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Prince also serves as a board member of Christian Freedom International, a non-profit group with a mission of helping "Christians who are persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ."

Since 1998, Prince has personally donated over $200, 000 to Republican causes.[18][19][20] Prince is a donor, along with others to the Alliance Defense Fund, a conservative Christian legal group.[21] Prince had also contributed money to the Green Party of Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, though this has been interpreted as an unsuccessful attempt to help Republican candidate Rick Santorum in his race against Democratic challenger Bob Casey.[22]

Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards has characterized Prince as one of George W. Bush's "political cronies."[23] Prince has denied using family clout to obtain contracts for Blackwater.[24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince

Substitute

the word "Christian"

with "Black", "White", "Fat", "Skinny", "Old", "Young", "People
named Fedor", etc. and anyone can find plenty of perfectly appauling examples of assholiness within those groups as well. Your posts against Christians are nothing more than common, street-level hatemongering. I'm surprised the mods haven't removed them as such.

Sorry to bring seriousness into an otherwise very cool thread- carry on with the much-deserved lampooning!

Keep wondering why the mods

haven't removed them. Why? Because it is a legitimate topic that does concern Christians. Period. It matters.

Keep wondering why the mods

haven't removed them. Why? Because it is a legitimate topic that does concern Christians. Period. It matters.

Why don't you get a blinking red light and jump up and down

with a sign that says "Look at ME", "Look at ME", "Look at ME"
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A Man's Country Is Not A Certain Area Of Land,
Of Mountains, Rivers, And Woods,
But It Is A Principle......
And Patriotism Is Loyalty To That Principle .
- George William Curtis

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

I will NEVER stop

Hostile Christians motivate me to post more and more and more.

As well they should motivate you

You've proven yourself beyond the doubt of almost everyone here that you're one of them. And therein lies the real issue of why almost no one here takes you seriously, and your message is lost.


No one disputes that Prince calls himself a Christian. No one disputes that it is a farce for him to do so because actions speak louder than words (read that last part again). Everyone here recognizes that Prince is not a Christian, and does not represent Christians, despite what he calls himself, and despite the countless times you've also referred to him as a Christian. No one here disputes that he is hell-bent on exterminating Muslims via his Blackwater organization.


The problem is that you profess to be a Christian, and portray to be qualified speak on behalf of them, all the while slandering Christians and non-Christians alike, and consistently conducting yourself in a way that a true Christian should be ashamed to. It's not our fault for recognizing that. To be Christian means to be Christ-like. You keep saying that you're Christian, but demonstrating quite the opposite. Based on that alone, no one will hear your message. Those who might be inclined to try to look past that are dissuaded by your wavering on key points. Although there are several, I think the most damaging is that you bounce back and forth between over-generalizing all Christians, then showing brief flashes of discernment. I know you'll dispute that, but when my script finishes processing and collating every post you've ever made on DP, and if it comes to posting the results, even you'll not be able to deny it with a straight face. If you manage to do so openly, then even those who hear you at the moment will stop hearing you altogether.


The source of the overall message in your thread does not appear to be credible or to be taken seriously, considering all of the above. That is the root issue of why you're not being very well-received, irrespective of the actual message. To be clear, I'm trying to help you here, NOT bash you, although I know there's no way on earth that you'll ever see it that way. I'm trying to explain your outward appearance to most people here, and that appearance is in extremely harsh contrast to your claims of being Christian. Therefor, how can you possibly be qualified to speak on behalf of Christians? That's the perception. I think it would help you quite a lot in your efforts here to either stop claiming to be a Christian, or start acting like one. You have to understand that, when you claim that bad apples like Prince represent all Christians and are a problem for all in your “tribe,” then profess to be a Christian yourself but conduct yourself the way that you do, most real Christian “tribes” see you as their Erik Prince. Substitute intelligent discussion for cursing, name-calling and dismissal of everyone who questions or disagrees with you. Substitute Christian behavior for Christian-bashing, over-generalization and anger-driven belittlement. Do these things and I think you'll see that people would actually be much more inclined to listen to you – but not, under any other circumstances, until then.


Does that make sense? If not then there's no hope of you being taken seriously here. You'll spend all your time, day and night, bellowing into the wind, wasting thousands of keystrokes, arguing and bickering with nearly everyone, with hardly anyone hearing your message. Ultimately, your exhaustive efforts will amount to nothing more than utter waste and further solidification of the perception about you that is already held. That should be blatantly clear by now. Think about it. If you are truly convicted about the importance of your message, then take a step back, look at the message people have been relentlessly giving you about yourself, and think about why people aren't taking you seriously or even hearing your message.


If you know about the theory of reciprocity then you'll recognize that is exactly what is happening here, and what is causing your efforts in getting the message across to be a lost cause.

IMPORTANT information about Street Sweepers!

My gosh, the further down the rabbit hole you go the more you are horrified. Did you know that the Street Sweepers even have a SHOTGUN named after them? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....

CLEARLY they are an organized group that is aligned with the NWO to take our liberties away. Why, they have probably been conspiring for a thousand years to assist and convince their unwitting members to join in the call for world government. It probably started with the street sweepers in Rome who worked on keeping the royal grounds clean of horse manure! And now, they are taking the orders of their masters and speaking in code with this horrible weapon, to take their legions into the abyss.

Thank goodness you posted this....... this is IMPORTANT.

(Isn't it funny how those who dish it out just can't take it..... no sense of humor I guess)

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A Man's Country Is Not A Certain Area Of Land,
Of Mountains, Rivers, And Woods,
But It Is A Principle......
And Patriotism Is Loyalty To That Principle .
- George William Curtis

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Serious dialog needed

Yesiree, Now this topic deserves tremendous indepth debate! I have lived in fear of both the Black haired Green bean steppers & the truly scary street sweepers.
If we as a nation are to live in freedom, dem waskly wabbits must indeed stop invading the purple turnip patches of Fweedum!
Of course the Black haired Green bean steppers have been debating the Scary Street Sweepers about this issue for over 2000 yrs and beyond.
Many of us guarding the purple turnip patch of freedom just don't see that this issue is going to be resolved here at turnip central headquarters in a mere few days.
It is our hope that we can gather more turnipseeds in order to grow more purple turnips and also to add a mixture of ,green,red,yellow ,orange to the mix for a HUGE harvest!
In order to make this happen, the Black Green bean steppers are asked to resist stepping on the turnip fruits of our labor so that the street sweepers can be used/utilized for an even greater harvest in the years to come.
Thank You for your attention and assistance in these most serious of times. We must remember that ...

Turnips Rule!

What's really funny

is the same clowns bitching about being grouped together, post all day long about "NeoCons", "NWO", "Zionist", "liberals", "Commies", etc. Hypocrisy. This is NOT an Evangelical Christian website. We are allowed to discuss topics like Erik Prince's admitted Christian crusade against Muslims. It matters. We are paying for it.

I don't think that the issue of grouping...

is the focal point of this thread. It is the vehicle to deliver a message about Liberty. Liberty is not found in the grouping, nor in dismissing the tendency to group. To "name" or label is inherent to the human psyche. The unknown is generally approached by a system of classification, but despite classificetion one must always remember that there is no real "group". It is a construct of the mind to simplify a truly daunting reality of varying perceptions. Ask different members of any "group" why they are involved and you might get some of the same key words and phrases, but if you probe deeply into the personal interpretations of those words and phrases you'll find wildly varying motivations, outlooks, definitions and applications of the same "group speak" (terminology). I have posted before the need for a serious study of linguistics and the implications of communication and perception as it relates to the growth of Liberty and a catholic (meaning universal) understanding that can be agreed upon. Of course that is an ideal because each individual has their own perception and that indicates an unavoidable region of impasse that is intrinsicly part of the human experience.
So, words are powerful, they themselves may not break bones, but they may inspire action to such ends. Labeling, as an accounting procedure is required by the basic human intellect, but freewill is the branch of the psyche that can overcome the tendency to abide solely by such simplistic processing. This thread is a cry to all of the DP to use that branch as a refuge from the typical propensity to believe that sterotype is a fact rather than a fable. Also it is a call to remember that communication is fraught with missteps and bluntness disguised as acuteness. We all suffer from misrepresenting our real feelings by having to translate them int words...what have I misstated in this little post?...so we all need to devise thick and simultaneous thin skins in this effort to communicate and develop our ideas of Liberty. Soverignty sees no group, it is not personable, nor is it built of any inherent value. It is simply a tool for application. It is clearly used in multiple ways (by this I would provide an example - I give yo a frisbee and you poke two holes in it opposite each other, you put a string through the holes and call it a hat. Someone else may move dirt with it and call it a shovel, while all I wanted to do was throw it back and forth) This aspect of individual interpretation is the value addition we all apply to any concept. This is what we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for. From my seat on the branch of this crazy tree all I can really say is "Beware acting on the simple definitions of labeling, grouping, use freewill to sharpen your instrument (mind) so that you can make cleaner and more decisive dissections of this thing we call life"

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Assert Your Authority

This has ALL been addressed

many, many times. The fact remains, a group that considers themselves and calls themselves, Christian, is killing Muslims in the Middle East for Jesus. This is a Christian problem.

Well, there's some faithless...

folks somewhere else in the world killing some other faithless folks - sounds like an agnostic problem to me. Broaden your world view, don't get stuck in the mud, war and illegitimate governmental jurisdiction is a WORLD problem. Some will attach that to faiths or faithlessnes, I attach it to fraud and deception. If you get lost in the machine you can never truly understand the totality of the design. However, this conquesting you are so properly concerned over is only a detail of this machine I'm talking about; it is only an aspect, and not the machine itself. It is a symptom of a much more dangerous illness - global genocide, global eugenics, financial fraud on a global scale, and intentional deception and total attacks on individual sovereignty. As Americans, we can only truly try to attack our nation's involvement in this evil and converse with nationals of other lands to do the same for themselves, but terrible as American crusading is, it is only one aspect of a multi-facated attack implemented world wide. "Religion" is the motivation for much war both now and throughout history. I'd reply that we have a "religious" problem the world over.

Again, do not become perplexed in the labeling, move through typology and into the realm of decisive communication.

Assert Your Authority

Assert Your Authority

LOOK AT ME!!!!, Look at me, Look at Me, LOOK at ME!!!!!!!!!

(sigh) So sad
_________
A Man's Country Is Not A Certain Area Of Land,
Of Mountains, Rivers, And Woods,
But It Is A Principle......
And Patriotism Is Loyalty To That Principle .
- George William Curtis

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

poor christian doesn't

like when the light is shined on his nonsense. Too bad.

Your response is a perfect...

example of the simplistic method of typology I described above. There is little veracity in believing that sterotype is a faultless assessment, or, applying it as if it were a proper and valuable construct of debate. Beyond that thin wall is a world of critical thinking that shrugs off the obtuse nature of "label" to ascertain valid evidence of the pertinent situation under consideration.

Assert Your Authority

Assert Your Authority

WOW.... SUPER piece

_________
A Man's Country Is Not A Certain Area Of Land,
Of Mountains, Rivers, And Woods,
But It Is A Principle......
And Patriotism Is Loyalty To That Principle .
- George William Curtis

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Fedor, your hostility these past few days has hardly been...

... limited to the issue with Erik Prince and his crusade. You deceive yourself if you think that.

Yes, we may be allowed to discuss topics like that, but how one goes about discussing things matters, Fedor. You have hardly been civil.

Furthermore, had "blacks" or "Jews" or whoever been assailed in the same manner as has been done toward Christians these past few days, I doubt it would ever have been tolerated up to the point it has.

So do not be hollering "foul" because others have resorted to mockery in response.

Wrong.

There is a pattern here at DP. Whenever a thread is posted that concerns someones thoughts on Christians, they are attacked immediately. By the same members. It is disgusting behavior and has shut down some very interesting threads. It is a form of censorship that can be found in the Christian tradition. THIS IS NOT AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN website. It is a Liberty website.

Not wrong.

...and I honestly don't think you read a word I said. :(

And regarding your statement, "Whenever a thread is posted that concerns someones thoughts on Christians, they are attacked immediately"...

Fedor, if someone is posting ~thoughts~ in the manner you have been, it is no wonder they are met with attacks.

I am not saying there is no room for discussion of things like the matter with Prince. But how one goes about ~discussing~ does matter.

There will be no constructive dialogue resulting from pigeonholing and stereotyping people or making generalizations and belittling remarks.

It seems that you would have discussion on this liberty website only open to select people, as Christians seem to be unwelcome in your book.

Sorry,

I have not been banned, because Mike can start at the beginning and see that I really posted something I felt was interesting. It was a legitimate topic or I made a comment that although uncomfortable to some, was accurate. Yep, after a awhile I grow tired of the same members taking shots at me, my faith, my commitment to RP, etc, etc. I dislike them. They drag this movement and website down. I have witnessed many of them destroy threads that had a great conversation rolling along. IT SUCKS.

Funny and poignant..

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

I too...

fear the squished green bean!

We must sterotype, lump sum, and flail blindly to remedy this attack.

Liberty is falling, let's help push it over!

I applaud your post and it's insight. I too am guilty of putting my own Liberty forward as an opression on others. And some times humor is really the best way to expose that to us all. Excellent job.

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Odell,

This line, in particular, is hilarious!:

I am the libertarian Pol Pot, I believe we must purge all people that don't believe in nothing like I do.

You should get a star or a smiley face for that one!

Jack

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.com

another good one

from O'Dell

thanks for posting