WSJ: Rand Paul has outperformed his opponent!!!!!
Rand Paul spent much of 2007 campaigning for his father, Ron Paul, the iconoclastic Republican thorn-in-the-side.
Associated Press
Republican Rand Paul speaks on Aug. 1 at the 129th annual Fancy Farm Picnic in Fancy Farm, Ky. But now the younger Paul, an ophthalmologist, is making his own bid for office, and he is doing so in the family tradition: Making Republicans uncomfortable.
Paul is running in the GOP primary for U.S. Senate in Kentucky, his home state since 1993. He is leading in the most recent poll and raising buckets of money. He is outperforming Secretary of State Trey Grayson, who has the support of Kentucky’s most powerful pol, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Like his father who became an Internet phenomenon during his presidential run, Rand Paul also seems to be somewhat of an Internet sensation. But whether he can actually win is an open question...
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/11/12/qa-with-rand-paul-s...
How about a War of Love and
How about a War of Love and Peace...if all this money needs to be spent then I say they should forget the guns and bombs and how about we help out all those in need in our country and in other countries in need with shelter and food no chains attached and show that we are a loving country and all we want is to spread our Liberty and Freedom and Live Peacefully with our God given rights...I mean seriously...Can't We All Just Along...?
For once and for all! (And I mean all the different countries not you guys here =) )
He meant
a war MUST be declared by Congress to be a war, but Congress should refrain declaring war in international entanglements.
Very eye-opening...
and not in a good way at all.
Overtures to the neocon/whore Palin?
Supporting a war in Afghanistan?
Hmmm. This is quite disturbing.
Pro-war and pro-neocon is not good at all.
Ya, it's been apparent for a few months
that Rand is not as pro-liberty as his father. I hope he wins, but I won't be that disappointed if he doesn't.
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"I believe that all government is evil in that all government must necessarily make war upon liberty." - H.L. Mencken
Dude, chill out. Even Ron
Dude, chill out. Even Ron Paul voted for authorization to go into Afghanistan.
Palin is a conservative who really doesn't represent the establishment either. We don't agree with her on everything, but she's certinly better then the NEo-Cons who currently control Washington.
See my post here.
http://randforsenate.blogspot.com/2009/11/rand-paul-overture...
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Spin it nice all you want
I had no idea that Rand was pro-war and apparently doesn't mind hooking up with McCain's partner. Bad taste in mouth... Hoping he'll see these comments and reconsider.
What?
Declare war on Afghanistan? You mean the government we put into place? Or the people who never harmed us?
What is he talking about?
This is very worrisome.
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Declaring war on Afghanistan?
Somebody needs to shape ole Rand up, while there is time. What has Afghanistan ever done to the U.S.? We need to quit this global bullsh%t altogether. I guess since we're walking in every Afghani house and business with loaded guns, they're supposed to like it? Try that in your own neighborhood and see how you like it. Stop the madness! Remember the famous remarks by Cassious Clay when they tried to draft him for Viet Nam: "They're not shooting at me, they're not my enemy, you're MY enemy, you're trying take my freedom away". Does anybody see the logic in this? Seen any Afghan warriors in your town lately? If so, call 1-800-GET-REAL to report.
alan laney
Agreed. If he is in favor of war with Afghanistan...
... he needs to get a clue fast.
I do not get the impression that Rand says things just to get votes, either. If he did, that would make him just like any other politician.
Also, I can't imagine why he would be making "overtures" to Palin.
Palin's support...
and endorsement would help him get votes. He probably thinks that he would pull further out in front in the polls if Sarah Palin campaigned with him.However, since she is somewhat tied to the Establishment, and Rand is running an insurgent campaign, she may very well remain neutral in this primary. Some people here will undoubtedly think that this will be the best thing that could happen. I just want what Rand thinks is best for him.
Did someone mention a word that stank & began with P ?
...puh palin? puh leeze! Let's try not to bed down with the whores, ok?
Geez, blakmira...
We get it.. you think Palin is a whore...
Here's the thing: young people love Ron Paul no matter what, so Rand'll probably win their vote regardless of whether or not he has Palin stumping for him.
Others are a little harder to please... And those that think of Rand Paul with 'a bad taste in their mouths,' might have a change of heart if they see Palin endorsing him.
I want Rand to win, Rand wants to win, this country NEEDS Rand to win!
Rand said he is not afraid not to be elected.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/114329
If he is making proposals and offers to a laughingstock who campaigned for warmonger McCain just so he can get votes, that does not seem consistent with his statement.
I'd like to see some clarification from him regarding what he meant about Afghanistan and Palin, because the way it looks here, I'm gonna have to agree with reed below. That stuff doesn't work for me.
this comment is way off.
this comment is way off. haha, i didn't think this guy has a clue what he's talking about.
* David wrote:
"The Rand Paul/ Ron Paul Schizophtenic Senate Campaign has opened the doors of Eastern State Hospital and the patients are rnning amok! If permitted to continue, then Rand/Ron is headed for self destruction according to several political analysts. Rand/Ron has placed his faith in a hodge-podge of social malcontents, counter-culturalists, isolationists, Pro Choice, anti-military, pro-illegal immigration, open grug use, end the fed, reconstructionist, and “Reagan concervatism is dead” ideologues in KY. Whie Rand/Ron had a successful “Monet Bomb” take, 90% of his funding, some $1.2 million in Big Money comes from out of state. We’ve had enough of this “coalition of forces” in the harsh reality of Obama."
I don't think he lines up 100 percent of what we want, but
He is defitnitely not the lesser of 2 evils; and to turn the tide does not happen overnight. That being said, he lines up so much closer to my beliefs especially on the economy, he could only be a breath of fresh air in DC. In any situation, you will never agree with someone 100 percent on his or her views. In any relationship. I am not talking about settling here, but who agrees with Ron Paul in everything?
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the lesser of two evils is still evil
"Overtures"
to Palin is disturbing.
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
Gosh, I didn't like that interview at all.
Sorry to say it, but if he supports a formal declaration of war in Afghanistan, and it sounds as though he does, I'll not be able to donate to his campaign further.
I know he's way better than Grayson, but my support will be for those who consistently work for freedom and its correlate. IMO you cannot have one without the other.
Nor did I like his openness to Palin; he's sounding too mainstream Republican in this interview. Maybe he has to, to try to win. Just doesn't work for me.
At least it will be constitutional ....
And look at it this way.
Do you really think a Declaration of War would gain approval in congress?
Declare or get out.
Declare or get out.
Declare or get out.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
didn't
ron try the same tactic prior to iraq?
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
The Palin thing doesn't bother me.
In fact, I remember back in the heady days of the moneybombs, several people on here wanted Palin as RP's running mate.
The war is another story. I found that disturbing as well.
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Thought it was strange...
... as well. BUT, I agree with the other posters, that he's playing it safe at the moment. He's going to have to get some votes of the war hawk republicans (who like war in Afghanistan for some insane reason) and the Palin-lovin' crowd. Disconcerting that he's treating it this way, but I still think he's the far better choice.
Chris
cascadiagames.com
He might support a formal
He might support a formal declaration of war, but does he support war against Afghanistan?
Maybe what he's saying is simply that if we are going to be in a war then it should be a Constitutional war, with Congress declaring a war. Any wars without a declaration by Congress are illegal/unconstitutional.
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That's your choice.
However, I trust that he will do the right thing.
Rand's being very smart with his campaign... Remember how Russert was trying to demonize Dr. Paul about his earmarks???
I think Rand is picking his words very carefully... he's in a very good position right now-- he doesn't want to screw that up. And for the record, I'm pretty sure Dr. (Ron) Paul also supported a formal declaration of war against Afghanistan... Does that mean you will drop your support for Dr. Paul as well???
Ron Paul has always said he'd only
support a war that was formally declared by Congress. He did not say he'd support every declared war.
Consistently he says "stay out of foreign entanglements" that are elective, not imposed on us by an attack by a country, but rather some ragtag bunch of terrorists. He also scorns the idea of minor third-world countries being a threat to us and requiring war.
Ron Paul is thoroughly committed to negotiation and peace, not to violent aggression.
What?
"He did not say he'd support every declared war."
Where did you get that?
I'm just saying, Dr. Paul believes in non-interventionism, but he also believes that if you're attacked, you have the constitutional authority to defend yourself.
Wars without declaration of wars do not end. There is no goal in the war on Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden is no longer there. What Rand is driving at is, if you can't declare a war because you don't know what your mission is, then you have no choice but to get OUT. Just like the audit of the FED. Once you expose the facts, then we can restore liberty.
I consider myself to be VERY anti-war. I have no problem with what Rand is saying.
I very much hope your interpretation of
Rand's statement is correct.
My point about not necessarily supporting a declared war is that a war that's invalid could be declared. Declaration of war per se wouldn't validate it, especially since Congress is amoral at best.
True...
but it's still Congress' job. Not the President's.
We should always uphold the Constitution. If the Constitution says that in order to attack another nation, we need to make a formal declaration of war, then so be it.
The reason why Neo-cons, war-mongers, and the MIC don't like declaring war, is because A) it's too 'time-consuming', B) it defines specific reasons for going to war, and C) they have to establish a goal and determine what 'victory' would be.
I know Rand is on my side. I trust him. It's your choice whether you want to or not.
I am not defending the war in Afghanistan. I think it is an atrocity. However, if Congress does move to make a declaration of war, it is the peace advocate's duty to inform his representatives and tell them to vote against that declaration.
Agreed
It does seem that a few here will jump on anything to attack Rand Paul though. Not to mention, this a a third partiy's "take" on what he was saying.
I gotta admit, reed, those two things jumped out at me, also.
They both leave me thinking, "HUH??"