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Rand Paul reaches out to Sarah Palin.

In a recent Q and A with the Wall Street Journal Rand Paul talks about how most things should be local or state issues, the Iraq war, both his Tea Party, and Ron Paul bases, and currency debasement by the Federal Government.

Most interesting I think though is that he's reaching out to Sarah Palin.
Read the rest.
http://randforsenate.blogspot.com/2009/11/rand-paul-overture...

Tracy

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stay homes

meant people that would stay home and not vote

to win?

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Those mini van driving,

attention dominators think everything is about them.

Palin will lose him critical

Palin will lose him critical independent support in the general election.

Ventura 2012

Especially if Palin's history of lying comes to light

http://www.palindeception.com/
http://www.themudflats.net/
http://palingates.blogspot.com/

Interesting quote from the mudflats page:
Well Palin’s book is not even out yet, but the dam has burst. The floodgates are open. The rogue has hit the fan.

Why? Because something has happened that Sarah Palin, her ghostwriter Lynn Vincent and her editor never anticipated. That darn media is at it again, only this time they’ve sunk to a new low. They have stooped to … fact checking. It’s these kinds of ambush, gotcha, guerilla tactics that keep good decent people from writing works of historical fiction and marketing them as memoirs. It’s a disturbing trend.

Read more here:
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/15/palin-to-media-quit-fi...

If Palin wants to endorse Rand Paul.. let her!

Have you ever NOT voted for somebody because they were endorsed by somebody you didn't like???

Rand is asking Palin for her help.

Rand isn't asking for her endorsement- his asking her to help him.

He's "reaching out" to her.

Rand is smart, he knows

Rand is smart, he knows Palin and others are trying to tap the energy of the freedom movement and he's reaching out. He won't compromise his beliefs but he knows he and Palin are yards apart, not miles apart, on domestic policy. Just like Ron said tonight about Bernie Sanders and how he and a socialist could come together on Audit the Fed. You guys on DP who don't want to associate with anyone who is not a carbon copy of Ron Paul are taking the easy way out, poking at personality traits, and venting. Ron would talk to Satan if he thought the devil would vote for 1207. Talking doesn't mean endorsing, dammit. Look, we won't get a single damn thing done in this entire movement without legislation being passed. I've been waiting 20 years for someone like Rand, a real chance at a constitutional conservative Senator. I applaud his tack with McConnell and Palin.
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"I'm just looking for opportunities to turn things around philosophically. College students love to hear about personal liberty and personal freedom and personal choices and, of course, this whole idea of getting our troops home, they're very receptive."

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

I think she's like the plague...

Catchy. Not a good idea. He should do it on his own. And now I'm not sure I support him..... declaration of war in Afghanistan? Is that some kind of double speak I'm not getting?

Obi-wan-kanobie

Well said

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

You completely distort the issue

You guys on DP who don't want to associate with anyone who is not a carbon copy of Ron Paul are taking the easy way out

Fact is that Sarah Palin is a pathological liar- those of us who've been paying actual attention to her antics can never be persuaded otherwise.

Rand doesn't have to be a "carbon copy" but there are some standards that must be upheld in order for him to gain my support.

A question to think about

Do our Troops want to come home?

i think most of us

i think most of us acknowledged all your points before you made them.

people aren't asking for a carbon copy. that's your perspective.

when Palin was standing within inches of McCain, her domestic politics sure looked miles apart from the Paul's to me.

there's not a ruler long enough to measure how far apart they are on foreign.

and it's all tied together. it's really just one big policy. you believe in limited, restrained, on-budget government.

or you believe in what we have now, here, there, everywhere.

What's up with the Palin cheerleading?

It's really offputting to people that can't stand her (for several reasons) Why push so hard to proclaim a possible connection between her and Rand? It is a negative connotation. Like repulsive. Hopefully he can be talked out of it or he'll lose supporters.

What's so offputting about it?

And it doesn't matter whether he can be talked out of it or not- it's too late. He's shown his true colors.

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Why wouldn't you want Palin to campaign for you?

At this point, Palin = Media senation.
Media sensation = attention.
Attention = legitimacy.

Like it or not, the name of this game is politics.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
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I've hoped the best liberty candidates

would aid Ron in shifting the conversation toward principled and ethical statesmanship.
Aligning with Palin would instead seriously weaken the liberty message and shift the conversation toward compromise and centrism.

agreed.

an ugly mccain type centrism.

the type of centrism I prefer, is that we steal some of the liberals who love liberty, and not so hip on the socialism they're being fed...they come over and join us.

we'll never attract left leaning liberty lovers, with a Palin selling Pauls.

Sorry -

Normally agree with you, but not on this one. It's bad P.R. in a politics book. With her grandson's dad selling her out & posing for Playgirl, not to mention lots of folks think the neo-cons want her on the Inside of our movement. She would pull attention AWAY from Rand or Ron Paul & the message for that matter, undoing everything we've worked for the past few years. Just a different perspective. :)

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Whichever way you look at

Whichever way you look at it, lots and lots of people in America who have been designated to be little more than cannon fodder for the benefit of the Wall Street welfare queens and public sector careerists and union leeches, see Palin as at least nominally on their side. And for good reason, too. Very little of her tenure in Alaska indicates she would side with banksters and ever expanding, ever more invasive, bureaucracies, over "regular" Joes (and Janes).

To call her a NeoCon is crazy. I mean, she couldn't even play one on TV last year, without screwing up to the point of national ridicule. More than anything, she came across as completely unprepared, and naive in the extreme (Not unlike that poor sap she couldn't manage to raise her daughter to stay away from, who's well on the way to being bent over a workout bench somewhere in LA, while being told "that's what you have to do to make it in this town" now, with a "manager" telling him posing for Playgirl is a bright career move and all.... After all, Mike Ovitz does know a thing or two about who runs the particular town this kid seems so desperate to break into.). But anyway, lots and lots of people, republican primary voters to boot, did, and still do, take a liking to her.

Which means her, and her supporters, will remain hugely important in the coming GOP elections. Important enough, in fact, to very possibly be the deciding factor in a race like the one Rand is involved in. I mean, what if she decided to campaign for Grayson? Does anyone really think that would be improve Rand's chances? And be good for liberty? We need Rand in Washington, and if he can manage to convince Palin that Washington would be a better place with him there, with her in turn convincing her huge army of supporters of the same, I simply can't see why Rand supporters should be so set against that.

Yes they want her in bad

I can't think of one positive thing to come of it. Once that Thing gets her toe inside the "campaign for liberty" door, there goes the purity of the r3volution and opens the neocon floodgates.

One reason a lot of us support Ron Paul is because we loathe politicians who form alliances with incompatible or repugnant bedfellows just for political gain. This has a faint odor of that and it's a shame it's his own son.

Ridiculous

Palin is a chump who doesn't know her ass from her elbow.

Why would ANYONE want a quitter to endorse them in the 1st place? If you couldn't finish your job as governor what makes you fit for any other post in politics or otherwise?

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Ron Paul said he would back

Ron Paul said he would back McCain if McCain publicly changed his stands on all the key issues.

All Palin has to do is come out and say that Ron Paul is right on foreign policy, and EVEN I'LL WELCOME HER BACK.

otherwise, Rand was just being polite.

and I still have this to say to Palin:

HEY YOU OPPORTUNISTIC LITTLE FLOOZY, YOU'LL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT.

100 percent

on the money

Honestly, I think Palin is

Honestly, I think Palin is pretty conservative. The reason McCain selected her is to through the conservative base a bone after all. We don't agree with her on everything, but I think we certainly agree with her more then the current crop of liberal Republicans in the Senate.

Frankly I think the appearance of "flooziness", comes from the fact that she was taken into a back room and instructed to follow the party line on everything, her lack of being able to lie well, is what caused her to look stupid, IMHO.

Anyway, mainstream Republicans like her. Many I talk to around here say, "They voted for Palin." If Palin wasn't on the ticket, that could have been the first year SD didn't vote Republican. She was a good governor, IMHO.

I personally think her current effort to go around and support Conservatives in Republican Primaries, and even anti-bailout Dems is to try and atone for her sins she was most likely browbeaten into.

Tracy
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honestly, i think that

honestly, i think that anyone who says "I'm really conservative", can probably get away with it for a short period of time.

Then the years of voting record, their speeches, their choices in politics and in their personal life WILL either support that assertion, or it will catch up to them and show them to be hypocrites.

No true conservative would have BACKED McCain, much less STOOD NEXT TO HIM, COMPROMISING EVERYTHING THEY BELIEVE IN.

unless what they believe in is a moving target, and changes shape to adjust to whatever OPPORTUNITY that has presented itself

Well I'll agree with that. I

Well I'll agree with that.

I don't know how she lived with herself quite frankly. Maybe she can't.

Maybe that's why she's doing what she's doing now.

Tracy
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