stays at C$L during the 2012 election?
They are too vanilla, but we need to be less critical lest we become the Reason and CATO crowd, that was too "pure" to support Ron Paul.
Recall how powerful the fundraising was when it was decentralized? To have a centralized power structure in a Libertarian organization is at odds with itself.
We sure as hell don't need a John Tate machine to spread the message, teach others and hammer our representatives. We are doing quite well thank you.
And a big "shout out" to our friend Barack Obama for burning America and waking her up!
"Josie the Outlaw"
totally disenchanted with C$L here in Nevada. I gave my whole effort & was not rewarded with any support from the mgmt. They did not agree with anything I was doing. My main focus was the State Central Committee & trying to get our team in the majority. The C$L superiors didn't see the merits of my efforts. Well, at the SCC mtg this last Sat, we made little headway. Not one of our people was elected, just some kind of okay people. Some see this as progress. I see it as disappointing because with the crummy C$L website, we should have been able to gather the troops these last months. I wanted every C$L members who became a SCC member to be able to have a photo op w/Ron at the LV C$L conference. The C$L thought I was crazy. They couldn't see that as an incentive to become a SCC member. Anyway, I haven't been active in C$L for months & have no intention of renewing my membership. I've cast my lot with Anger Is Brewing.
The same people who managed Ron in the election, & frustrated us with their lousy handling, are running C$L. It's really no wonder that things are what they are.
but personally not too impressed w/ how they are trying to help us. One persons opinion only. Time will tell. Results are all that matter. If they prove to be a long term net plus I will sing their praises.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
I think Donna Holt from VA C4L does a really good job, I wish there were one of her in every state.
My comment was regarding the muckety mucks. I imagine a lot of the on the ground, hands on folks are doing great work.
I guess you are resentful because they ask for funding a lot. It's ok man, nobody liked to be solicited, but they have to raise funds somehow. I don't think they are counting on a donation every email or five, just when you can.
The economy sucks, they need to keep at it and triple their efforts to get the same funding these days.
I hope they are everywhere during 2012
I agree. A lot of people here do not like their fund raising prowess. But if you don't ask, you don't get. And from where I sit their ability to raise cash has been very effective. Peope should never confuse style for effectiveness.
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown