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UCLA Students Riot as Tuition Inflates 32%

Students clash with police as tuition is set to Inflate 32 percent this year.

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They are NOT happy.
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Wards of the State

It is clear to me that if anyone benefits from a person getting a college education it's that person. So I see no reason why a college student shouldn't have to pay for his education himself, with some modest use of loans, rather than be subsidized by the taxes of working class taxpayers who never got to go to college themselves. (When I went to MIT 30 years ago I paid for 70% of the costs with summer jobs, my parents paid for 15%, and the other 15% was a loan that I quickly paid off.) It is true that college costs have inflated much faster than other prices over the past few decades, as have health costs. But both college and health care are heavily subsidized by government. That encourages padding of costs and discourages creating better efficiencies, so is the reason why the price of education and health care keep going up so fast.

Keep in mind that 80% of what you learn in college can be learned by buying the right textbooks, reading them, and doing the exercises at the end of the chapters. Despite the high costs of textbooks that's still orders of magnitude cheaper than tuition.

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UCLA Protests are as Impotent as Voting and Lobbying

They are PROTESTING to get their Gov't Controlled and Fiat Financed Educations back on track.

If I knew then what I knew now I would have never got an advanced degree in Economics / Child Development.

Here's what we've tried -- THROUGHOUT all Human History.

Voting
Lobbying
Protesting
Warring

Here's what has worked to gain "lasting liberty"
---Big Bupkis (Nada - Zilch - Nothing)

I got an idea -- Let's try something we've never EVER tried even once!!!

Let's try Counter-Economics, Kick the Rothbardians out of "Mises" Institute, and Public Education center on Consumer-Sovereignty.

Octobox

The UCLA protests burdened w lack of principle

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

Weaning conflict

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaning

Perhaps the government shouldn't have played substitute mother.

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

They should have sit ins

I learned a number of years ago that CA had stopped building new colleges, they extended campus, and offered BS courses, but colleges were shrinking despite the mioney being poured in, and prisons were booming. The privatized prison industry has jobs, and I'm sure it's the intended furite for many who oppose war.

The raise is in "fees", not tuition

Still one of the most affordable instate tuitions in the country.

What do you mean Tuition "Inflates"...there is no inflation!

That is sarcasm for anyone that doesn't get it.

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
-Professor Bernardo de la Paz, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Robert A. Heinlein

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

I just got a call yesterday

from a community college in California I was supposed to start teaching for next semester. It was only one class and the field of nutrition is in extremely high demand. I figured that the community colleges would be filling up because 4-year college tuition is so high. It was the Dean and he told me they were told to cut back on over 1000 hours of education so they couldn't hire me. I was ok with that because it was only one class but what I had to go through to get hired by these clowns. I had to get fingerprinted and a TB test for teaching online!

Anyway, so not only are they raising rates but they are also cutting the amount of classes. There will be rioting in the streets. Where are these young people supposed to go when the unemployment rate is so high and they can't get an education? Education is the only way out for most of these kids.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

reedr3v's picture

The reason it seems the only way out

for students is: decades of minimum wage legislation eliminated so many entry-level positions; and it's illegal to take someone on as an unpaid apprentice, though they have no usable skills.

Plus years of public school propaganda told them the only "worthwhile" jobs were white collar drone jobs working for corporations or the bureaucracy.

We have several generations that have no real knowledge of productive work, so they are helplessly dependent on the system. Of course today it's even worse because federal mismanagement of the economy has squandered and looted resources until businesses are broke and have to fire even productive employees.

The only way up is to get the parasite bureaucracy and its taxes and regulation off peoples' backs so individuals can create their own entry-level jobs. Small entrepreneurship can only flourish in freedom. the more managed an economy, only powerful corporations and special interests on the dole can survive.

The rest of us become wage slaves forever with no way out. If the State fails, as they always do, the people get sucked down with it.

Seriously... unpaid apprentice is illegal?

how can the govt tell you that you cannot work for no wage in order to learn a skill?
When I graduated highschool I was an apprentice for 18 months in a machine shop to learn how to build racing engines for all types of races and manufacturers. It was a great experience and taught me invaluable skills as far as order, precision, and cleanliness.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

reedr3v's picture

A bit long, but here's a summary from

The Washington State Department of Labor and Industries:
"Nowadays, apprentices are members of a production force as they train on the job and in the classroom. They are paid wages, work a regular workweek, and live in their own home rather than that of a master. Their apprenticeship agreements set out the work processes in which they are to be trained and the hours and wages for each training period. At the end of their apprenticeship, they receive certificates that are similar to the diplomas awarded the engineering graduates of universities.

Annually there are nearly one-half million registered apprentices in training in American industry. They are learning under the guidance of experienced craft workers in such skilled occupations as computer operator, machinist, bricklayer, dental laboratory technician, tool and dye maker, electrician, drafter, electronic technician, operating engineer, maintenance mechanic, and many more. Management, labor, and government work together to promote apprenticeship and to develop sound standards for its practice. In many communities, joint management-labor apprenticeship committees conduct and supervise the local programs." the link to the page containing that quote is here:
http://www.lni.wa.gov/TradesLicensing/Apprenticeship/About/H...

Frankly, these kids would be better off if they leaped into real

life and shook the dust of UCLA off their sneakers. Whatever the price, the "education" they're getting has to stink. Besides, it's based on a world that is passing away in front of our very eyes.

yes, but *they* don't know where to begin--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

it is sad--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Now, forget everything you learned in college

I can't count how many times I've heard this. It's been said to me, and to people I know, and I've read it many times in other areas.

lol basically I'm agreeing with you

SteveMT's picture

This is just the beginning: CA has a $20.7B deficit next year!

None of this is going away.

"The state will face $20 billion annual deficits through 2015"

State budget drowning in red ink for next year
Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau
Thursday, November 19, 2009

California again is facing a mammoth budget deficit and the prospect of more severe cuts to state services, the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office warned in a report released Wednesday.

Legislative Analyst Mac Taylor said the state will face a $20.7 billion deficit next year and that the Legislature and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger need to start work to fill that gap "as soon as possible." He also noted that many one-time fixes state leaders have relied on in the past to close deficits are not available. The state will face $20 billion annual deficits through 2015 if permanent fixes are not made, he warned.

The dire news comes only four months after lawmakers approved a controversial plan to close a $24 billion shortfall in the current fiscal year, which began July 1. That plan, signed by the governor on July 28, relied on state worker furloughs, partial closures of state parks, and funding cuts to the California State University and University of California systems and many health and welfare programs.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/19/...

Welcome to reality.

This is what happens when the government pays for something then runs out of money. All the liberals think its the greatest state then .....bankruptcy. They can't squeeze any more taxes out of anyone. Now the liberals are mad....where is our free stuff? Why is the middle class not paying for our free stuff?

reality, yes--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

but I believe you are oversimplifying---

not all of these young people are wealthy OR liberals. Some of them are struggling, and they have seen (up to now) education as their 'hope'--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

expect more of this

As the government 2 party system destroys the currency and the federal and state governments are forced to shut down massive payment programs and services and more and more people are unemployed and state program cost skyrocket from lack of money and inflation on imports, tax protest, cost increase protest and welfare and pension shortage protest will increase exponentially over the next 24 months....the problem now is that the fascist in government have given the capital and resources to the international bankers and their cronies. Their last option is pure inflation...crank up the printing presses and hand out devalued fiat currency....but our foreign creditors may have something to say about this....

Kalifornia

Why anyone would have anything to do with Kalifornia is beyond me; vote with your feet, folks.

The surf

I can't imagine anywhere else I'd rather be than California.

Hawaii

Australia, South Africa, South Pacific, Ireland...they all have surf and many more too.

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
-Professor Bernardo de la Paz, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Robert A. Heinlein

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Central America - and Baja Mexico

Jesse Ventura had the right idea I think. He lives off grid in Baja. He says the waves are good and no crowds.

A problem California has had

A problem California has had for a long time, is politicians here realizing the natural attractions of the state are so strong, people will put up with almost any kind of abuse without leaving. I can only imagine what a wonderland it must have been for those who came out here, before the busybody slimebags now hell bent on running the place into the ground for their own amusement, caught up with them.

North shore....

On Oahu Brah!
It is Da Kine!

Not for me

Back in the days of Jerry Lopez.

Mavricks changed that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UnadJy5st4

Big wave surfers

are a rare breed. My respect to them all.

Foo had his tv show. his loss was a shock.

I would be very happy just

to see it ...

Wish i was 23 in 1963 there

True American culture. I could surf, have our own surf music (which was heavy stuff) and then race an A-Fueler at the strip.

Surfing is fantastic. When it comes, I still surf powder in the trees in the NorthEast and I'm no spring chicken.

same here

Sunday River is my resort of choice, although there are a few good spots up here : )