Internet Under Siege
Submitted by Liberty_Belle on Thu, 11/19/2009 - 09:12It is ironic that President Barack Obama would travel to China and speak against government control over the internet. If the American Department of Homeland Security has its way new cybersecurity laws will enable Obama’s administration to take control of the internet in the event of a national crisis. How that national crisis might be defined would be up to the White House but there have been some precedents that suggest that the response would hardly be respectful of the Bill of Rights.
Many countries already monitor and censor the internet on a regular basis, forbidding access to numerous sites that they consider to be subversive. During recent unrest, the governments of both Iran and China effectively shut down the internet by taking control of or blocking servers. Combined with switching off of cell phone transmitters, the steps proved effective in isolating dissidents. Could it happen here? Undoubtedly. Once the laws are in place a terrorist incident or something that could be plausibly described in those terms would be all that is needed to have government officials issue the order to bring the internet to a halt.
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http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2009/11/18/internet-unde...
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I find this quite ironic, as
I find this quite ironic, as the only potential crisis I see involves our psycho government shutting down the internet, as they are the creators of practically every emergency.
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my guess is the first thing to be shut down when/if Martial Law is declared would be internet and cell-stationary phone system.
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My posts are 'under siege'! Mods~Where are my posts?
I posted 5 or 6 new topics 5 hours ago..only two have been released? There was only one link in each so why are they still being held? Is this a glitch... or a mod decision based on opinion of merit?
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Liberty, no one is censoring the posts
It is the spam filter. It has been grabbing many posts and comments. That is one reason Michael wanted the upgrade. I will see if I can find anything that seems to be held, but they are not easy to find.
One of my new thread posts
One of my new thread posts never went through either, still awaiting approval I guess.
Hope you don't mind...
Since you are having problems posting threads and since comments are easy to miss, I made a thread asking for help with your problem.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/115348
Feel free to bump as necessary. :)
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Another Orwellian Experience Today
On a dutch newsforum they came up with the idea to BAN the words "zionist" and "zionism". I use them frequently in discussions about the occupation in Palestine, but I am not allowed to use these words anymore. Also terms like "genocide", "apatheid", "etnic cleansing" can no longer be used anymore in combination with Israel. I saw loaths of comments being removed instantly without any kind of reasons given. You can say anything you want about Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims, but you cannot even use the word "zionist" anymore in opinions about Israel! This is becoming more ridiculous day by day.
When I was fed up with it, I said: "People, mind your words, the zionist thought police never sleeps!" Needless to say, my account got suspended immediately after that...not the first time by the way.
I think I am going to sent them a nice email later today, in which I explain to them exactely how I feel about all this and the way they handle free speech on their site. I'll also tell them that I do not wish to be part of their forum any longer, since I am unable to voice my opinion without being censored all the time.
that is chilling--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
considering that Zionism has no religious or ethnic bounds or identity--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
I wanted to
share this:
I had a banking problem the other day and went into my local office to speak with a customer service representative. She proved very helpful and also with well-meaning intent showed me how I could pay bills automatically online instead of writing out checks. Anyway, I brought up my concern that there's a lot of talk about the internet being shut down and/or monitored/censored in the event of a "homeland security" problem and that such an event could perhaps prevent me from accessing these online records. She said not to worry, that homeland security has its own internet, entirely divorced from the one "everyday" people utilize, which makes perfect sense, and which possibility I had often pondered.
So if this lady is correct, there would be no justifiable reason to monitor/censor "our" internet. Do I think "they" are capable of lying and monitoring/censoring "our" internet under false pretenses? Absolutely.
I am also thinking that there are a lot of businesses who sell online and would raise a fuss if the internet were ever entirely "wiped out". These businesses have a lot of power, imo, in preventing that from happening. And yes, those (business) sites could remain accessible and only "subversive" sites be made inaccessible....but, would any of you keep your internet service if all you could do is buy/sell or only access similar-type sites? I wouldn't...and I think businesses know this, as well.
I am also thinking that it's smarter for TPTB to let the internet alone--they certainly find out more by being able to access data from "subversive" sites than they would if these sites weren't available...
Am I totally off-base here?
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thinking this through--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
*their* "own" internet?
*shiver*
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
They shut down all flight on 9/11.
...except to let the bin Laden family leave. So they weren't too concerned about fuss from all the airlines.
Dunno if concerns of businesses would make a difference or not since it seems TPTB are hellbent on breaking the economy anyway.
I hadn't actually heard anyone speak of a second, separate internet. Interesting that the customer service rep at the bank confirmed it.
I was thinking more
in the long-term...not having the internet down/censored a day or two, or a week or two...but like down/censored forever.
Thanks for the feedback...
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WTP Federal Lawsuit to BAN ALL ELECTRONIC VOTING
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I think things are being put in place...
...and have been for a long time, that are not necessarily intended to be used immediately...although I think that we will see these them used soon, but yes, in the longer term.
Not saying there wouldn't be a short-term test run, but with regard to what you said about business concerns, when it is time for the hammer to come down that might involve long-term shutdown of internet, I think business as we know it will cease to exist, or if it does I doubt it will have the same role or capacity.
I have not researched executive orders in depth, but if the following glance at them is true, I don't think the conclusion I've drawn about business in such an event would be much of a stretch.
http://akadad.bizland.com/rps/fema.htm
Because of growing awareness and resistance with regard to the suspicious things that are going on, and also because of the growing impatience of very powerful people who are itching to drastically reduce the world's population and hasten one world governance, I suspect we are going to see something soon that will be very swift and change everything, including business.
So if the hammer is planned to come down swiftly and in a manner that is expected to result in civil unrest, mass detentions and even mass death, as would seem to be the indication with various preparations being put in place, when things are shut down, or severely controlled, including internet, if business is to still exist at all, I think its role/capacity will become very different, including with regard to internet.
The seats of power are occupied by men who are insane.
It is as simple as that. They are deluded by believing that they know how to manage everything and they take public apathy as approval of what they do.
The reality is that the overwhelming majority in government don't know what they are doing any more than my dog knows how to perform brain surgery. But this does not stop them from thinking they know best how to run our lives. Their quest for power is a reflection of their twisted emotions.
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we could hope so . . .
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
we could hope that they simply self-destruct without hurting any more innocents--
but I am afraid that is a dream--
haven't too many already been hurt?
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
So true...
I agree with you so much, Henry. I even started a poll and group on facebook regarding this very issue. Yet last I looked eleven voted and three on the group. I realize it is not a legitimate poll, but if just to get the attention this issue deserves.
TPTB have been waging war on humanity for well over 1000 yrs and we are the witnesses to the possible extermination of this entity. I believe it is evil incarnate and I believe Jesus is coming back. This is just surreal, TPTB obviously believe in the Bible they playing it like a script. But for evil...
Severe detachment. Psychopathic broken brained beasts.
They are insane. Henry, you are totally correct, and history will prove this out, and will be a "the world is flat" moment.
"They" absolutey lie about everything and are so extemely paranoid.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
They already have a crisis
they could name any of the thousands of threats to America to do this
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Mods! Can you release my other 4 posts?
I still have 3 or 4 posts in que that I posted over 3 hours ago?!
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