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Rand Paul: Try, Convict and Lock Up Terrorists In Guantanamo

Rand Paul: Try, Convict and Lock Up Terrorists In Guantanamo

Published on 19 November 2009 by admin in General News

For Immediate Release
November 19, 2009

BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY – Leading United States Senate candidate Rand Paul today criticized the Obama administration’s decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center and try terrorism suspects in United States Civil Courts.

“Foreign terrorists do not deserve the protections of our Constitution,” said Dr. Paul. “These thugs should stand before military tribunals and be kept off American soil. I will always fight to keep Kentucky safe and that starts with cracking down on our enemies.”

Dr. Paul believes in strong national defense and thinks military spending should be our country’s top budget priority. He has also called for a Constitutional declaration of war with Afghanistan.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-an...



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>he refers to the prisoners

>he refers to the prisoners as "Foreign terrorists".<

I am afraid after he get elected he will refer to us as "domestic terrorist" and will send us to Guantanamo to be tried by millitary courts. This guy is typical politician that will say anything to be elected. He does not have honesty and integrity of his father... I become Ron Paul supporter not because I agree with everything Ron Paul stand for but because I consider him honest and having integrity... Rand is riding not on convictions and ideas but on his father reputation... he thinks that your support is free just because his last name is Paul... he is bowing to Palin's camp and all those neocons that support imperial ambitions...
Wake up folks... have a courage to see things how they are... Rand betrayed you and he betrayed his father...

Well...he DOES like Glenn Beck alot

and even included a side-by-side photo of himself and Beck in his campaign mail. That rubbed me the wrong way, since Beck famously linked Ron Paul supporters to domestic terrorism. (!!!) Ron Paul appears on his show but keeps his distance; Rand acts like Beck is his best friend and even kisses up to him. So....what are we supposed to think?

And how do you know there not?

Did you pay them a visit?

Caddy argument....
I don't agree with everything either....

I guess you could always vote Grayson.

Don't miss the forest beyond the trees!

For Freedom!

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

This is not about "agreeing with everything",

but about basic principles (which Rand appears to be lacking).
And btw, when we don't know, we call them "suspects" (not "terrorists").

Damn! looks like we will have to vote Grayson now....

Are you kidding me......

First, Leave the guy/gal alone that posted the article. Why would anyone take exception with them. I am actually encouraged to see the involvment in the debate.

Welcome William the Silent!
I guess Silence is a virtue in these parts.

Second, Do you have a better candidate in KY for Senate that will vote 99% of the time with our ideals?

I use the word our loosely since we don't agree about 20% of the time.

What's important is the foundation.

You guys are nuts! I love this site.....

For Freedom!

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

It could be worse...

he could've left out the word "foreign"...

I will still donate to his campaign, but I will also write him and let him know how I feel about this issue.

I hope he wins.

I still trust him.

Rand Paul is Wrong

The great thing about Ron Paul is that he always sides with principles. You almost always know what position he will take on any issue.

Rand Paul has proven this is not true with him. I doubt many people on this forum expected this statement. We expect him to hold to his father's principles.

We did not expect him to sacrifice his principles for politics; that being the root of the problem we suffer.

Of course, maybe he didn't sacrifice his principles. Maybe this opinion lines up directly with how he thinks and we just didn't know it, blinded by the light that is his father.

Anyhow, I'm new to posting on thedailypaul even though I've been reading it steady since RP's presidential campaign.

You can read my full opinion on Rand's statement: http://furlongcolony2.blogspot.com/2009/11/rand-paul-is-wron...

Any amount of browsing on that blog will provide proof that I've been following the liberty movement for a couple of years, so don't attack me simply because I'm new.

It's a shame you have to ask

It's a shame you have to ask to not be attacked because you're a new poster.

I agree.

It's a weird thing about the DP- people are always getting attacked for being new. I saw someone mocked recently for having only been here 41 weeks. A terribly petty trend considering the high ideals that we (more or less) have in common.

Pseudonym,

As disappointed as I am right now regarding this Guantanamo thing and Rand, there are people popping up out of the woodwork for no other apparent reason than to bash Rand.

Some have been registered for quite a while, yet oddly have posted little, or in Hank's and cizzlebolicious' case absolutely NOTHING, til now where their intent seems to be to jump on this opportunity to encourage negativity toward Rand.

You're familiar with me. You know I don't run around calling people trolls, but I gotta admit there is something not quite right about people who have little or nothing to contribute who pop up only to bash or cause discord.

Its a public forum

Some of us don't feel the need to speak when everyone is saying the same thing. Some of us only feel a need to put in a word in when controversy is on the table.

I agree.

But what can you do? Supporters in this movement are naturally skeptical.

Thanks to a few of you...

Thanks to a few of the Daily Paul commenters, I compiled some of the information in this comments section and wrote a blog explaining the situation:

http://atlasmediaonline.com/blog/corey-moore/11-20-2009/rand...

Well, that really sucks for your only thread at Daily Paul.


Your only participation on Daily Paul is an attack on Rand Paul.

Unfortunately, I have to give it to you, it seems to be true!


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

I agree it is unfortunate

I wish it were on happier circumstances. And I do watch this site quite a bit. I have it in my feed reader, which is why I don't make my way over here to comment. But honestly, I am getting a little upset at how quickly this liberty community jumped on me because I had never posted before.

There is a possible explanation for misunderstanding:


1) "Rand Paul today criticized the Obama administration’s decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center and try terrorism suspects in United States Civil Courts."

Rand Paul may not necessarily be criticizing the decision to close Guantanamo specifically, but instead the decision to try terrorism suspects in the U.S. He goes on to specify that, “Foreign terrorists do not deserve the protections of our Constitution," but he doesn't actually say anywhere that Guantanamo should not be closed.

Foreign terrorist suspects could be tried in other places besides Guantanamo, such as in the country they are arrested, on ship, or other military bases.


2) At the time the other comment on closing Guantanamo was made, back in May, the website probably really was not official yet and really had been set up by two supporters trying to get him to run. Rand Paul waited quite a while before actually deciding to run.


It doesn't look or sound good though and I'm sure many would like to hear further comment or clarification from Rand Paul.


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

unfortunate

Unfortunate, but not totally unexpected. One day I hope folks realize that the real problem is the state.

"The fundamental mistake of the Constitution is that it exists to manifest government."

Hey Hank

Congratulations on your first post in almost two years. Nice link btw, you fraud. Grayson must be a scared.

I'm not interested in either

I'm not interested in either of them truth be told. Also, I'm not a big reader of the Daily Paul. I'm not a big fan of Ron Paul. So why would I come here? Cizzle is my friend and linked me this article. I commented. The end. I'm not a fan of Ron for the same reason I'm not a fan of Rand. Both will entertain appeasement politics. Ron did it with the newsletters, now Rand is pro-Guantanamo. All the conspiracy mongering about Greyson is making you look foolish. He's a warmongering scumbag. Period. But again... the problem isn't the politicians... they are symptoms of a larger, deeper reality that state and statism are the real source of our problems.

www.atlasmediaonline.com

I'm sorry that your first post was

about pushing your site --which takes an unnecessary shot at Rand-- and you didn't expect someone to have a problem with it.

WTF

You don't even know what the hell you are talking about. I know Hank personally and we have been pumping out liberty related media for quite some time. The reason we are so angry about this is because we did promote Rand.

And it really is a coincidence that we posted at the same time.

Omg. You amateurs.

You and Hank have both been here the exact same amount of time (1yr 48 wks) and just both happen to make your very FIRST posts here today on THIS thread. Good grief.

Hey Sarge, it looks like you were right!

Dude

Go look at the website we both linked. Or better yet, search our names. The fact we are friends could be the reason we signed up at the same time. Again, I don't even remember signing up it was that long ago. I was going to create a new account tonight.

Whatever

I hope your little community is happy attacking someone who was just trying to compile some important information together and present it to the public. Don't kill the messenger, everything I wrote is 100% verifiable.

After this stunt you two pulled...

...I wouldn't dare click on your link.

Running my cursor over it, I can see it's nothing good.

Is that why you came here?

What do you mean "stunt"?

We did not collaborate on commenting here whatsoever. The reason I came here was to post a link to a blog post that I wrote in response to this situation. You don't have to read it. You are a free individual so do what you want. I am just a little pissed that both Hank and I got attacked because this was the first time we actually wanted to post a comment here.

...And you haven't had a single thought worth posting

in almost 2 years until now? I think you and Hanky need to do some more pumping.

Did it ever occur to you

Did it ever occur to you that there is more than one liberty community website online?

I don't even remember signing up for this site, but when I tried to make a new account, it told me I already had one. I had to send a password request just to login.

Does the paranoia get to you sometimes? Try going outside once in a while.