Hemorrhagic flu in Iowa, USA now...
Submitted by Habit4ming on Sun, 11/22/2009 - 16:10
According to kcci.com/news:
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Iowa has officially recorded 21 H1N1 deaths, including seven in Polk County alone. But the county's medical examiner said he has performed autopsies on some residents who were never diagnosed with H1N1, but actually had it.
"In the autopsy, what we're seeing is very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them," said Dr. Gregory Schmunk.
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A good interview with a Ukrainian coroner on the virus outbreak
Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not pneumonia, but cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock... The virus enters directly into the lungs, there is bleeding... Antibiotics should not be used...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16088
Ukraine Flu Outbreak: Virus Is a Mixture of H1N1 and Parainfluenza, Causes Cardiopulmonary Failure
that was a good article
"tamiflu cannot be used as a preventative, it is toxic"...
I don't trust any reports of death
or the reasons for death.
just thinking aloud here...
but this could be rough for people on blood thinners, statins, aspirin regimen, no?
H1N1 any relationship to R2D2?
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I think I had H1N1 last
I think I had H1N1 last January. My main contract expired, I didn't have much work, so I visited family and friends in my hometown. Then I got sick. I was in bed for a week, the coughing wouldn't stop. I coughed up green and red for a few days. Then after that I had a lot of moisture in my lungs, I'd cough against a piece of paper, and it would leave a spray of clear, water-like droplets on the paper. I could hear it when I breathed. It took me a good 5 to 6 weeks to get to the point where people didn't notice anything wrong with me.
Probably 2 months total to completely be free of all symptoms.
Early on, I knew that fluid was going to be a problem, I avoided salt, and drank moderate amount of natural diuretics (iced tea).
Did you have a fever ever?
Any other cold symptoms?
so it WAS you I saw in Iowa!
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Thanks for the gory details. But really don't hold back...how were your bowel movements? just kidding!
glad you are feeling better.
I was wondering what the
I was wondering what the Colloidal Silver crowd here thinks of using the silver colloid solution with a vaporizor or nebulizer and directly inhaling the vaporized silver deep into the lungs as a means of fighting this type of infection. I have such a device and colloidal silver at the ready for myself and my family but have not yet tried it out.
Any thoughts???
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My family has had good results
with a nebulizer and a mixture of colloidal silver and food grade hydrogen peroxide. The silver/peroxide was purchased from Anchorage, AK.
Husband had a nagging cough, so I bought the whole set-up. In one day his cough was noticeably better. In two days it was mostly gone. After a week or two it was completely gone.
My daughter inherited her father's bent towards pneumonia and bronchitis. She used it when she started wheezing a few months ago (possible precursor to an illness), and it cleared right up.
Neither one of them had the flu, though, so I don't know how it works for that.
What brand of nebulizer do
What brand of nebulizer do you recommend? I don't know much about them, but have wanted to get one for the h2o2 and now that you describe the CS I'd like to try that out too.
We have a PARI Trek S. The
We have a PARI Trek S. The unit is little more than a small aquarium air compressor. The working end of the device is just a plastic gizmo that plugs into the airline coming from the compressor. It has a reservoir that you fill with medicine and presto! You have vaporized CS. I think you can get these from any medical supply store.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
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Things are only impossible until they are not.
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Could I ask where you got
Could I ask where you got your collodial silver from?
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I get my colloidal silver here...
http://www.nutronix.com/bt69170
along with coral calcium and other products... They also have a nutritional supplement drink mix with all kinds of goodies in it...
I have a trusted friend who
I have a trusted friend who makes it for himself and others upon request.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
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I make my own.
Here's pix:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36494393@N00/sets/7215760970365...
Great idea about using it with a nebulizer. I'll be ready to try that if I'm flu-stricken.
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Nice generator concept. I'm
Nice generator concept. I'm pleased to see that you used the silver ingots. I considered using the ingots myself, not wanting to spend extra money on wires. In addition to the nebulizer, I also have bottles of saline nasal spray that I will fill with C.S. with which to irrigate the nasal cavity.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
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Things are only impossible until they are not.
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Daang, I wish I could get my
Daang, I wish I could get my hands on some if anyone knows a place in California that sells it, it would greatly be appreciated.
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Whole Foods
sells Sovereign Silver. Health food stores like GNC sell it.
You can buy your own colloidal silver maker from SilverGen. This machine will make 5ppm to 20 ppm, and will let you know if the water you are using is unacceptable.
I'm sure you've searched the internet
I got mine from a search. Been a while and don't remember from where. Check reputation of company.
Colloidal silver is usually
Colloidal silver is usually available at your local health food store. While I have heard some mention that the quality of commercial colloidal silver is not consistent, couldn't tell you with any certainty which brands are inferior to what. In a pinch, a few dollars worth of supplies and some effort on youtube and google, you will find plenty of do-it-yourself methods for making it.
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Round 2?
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3 more Iowans' deaths blamed on flu; toll at 24
3 more Iowans' deaths blamed on flu; toll at 24
The Des Moines Register • November 21, 2009
Three deaths were reported Friday. They include a child in eastern Iowa and adults in Marion and Warren counties.
Eleven of the H1N1-related deaths in Iowa have occurred in adults ages 25 to 49, according to data released by state officials. The data do not include the ages of the three latest victims.
Five Iowans ages 50 to 64 have died of H1N1, along with three adults ages 18 to 24, and one adult over 64.
One child under age 18 was reported to have died of H1N1 before the deaths announced Friday.
More than 650 Iowans have been hospitalized because of the H1N1 virus to date, state officials said.
More than half of those hospitalized were overweight or obese, which may be associated with medical conditions, such as diabetes, that raise chances of complications from H1N1.
Of those Iowans hospitalized, the most common underlying medical conditions that increased the risk of complications from the H1N1 virus were:
- Immune-compromised conditions, such as cancer.
- Respiratory conditions, such as asthma.
- Neuromuscular conditions.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2...
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I am having a cold (or flu?) since one week.
A lot of coughing, more than usual.
Hope I have enough antibodies when it is over, in case they release the nasty stuff in California.
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Doesn't the hemorrhagic side to this make it a bit different?
I'm no expert, but lungs filled with blood are just not something we've heard about with regard to flu, or H1N1, yet the doctor is referring to it that way.
The only thing similar that I recall is the recent mysterious Ukrainian thing, and I don't recall anyone labeling that as H1N1.
Also, I don't see in the article where it indicates whether or not the people who died had been vaccinated.
I hope someone looks into and analyzes this Iowa situation further. Has something else been spliced with the H1N1 virus...or vaccine?
I think it is the bacterial side
like in the Ukraine. If that is what is happening here, not good. Chances are it means we have been sprayed. That is the problem with the spraying, they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. People better start speaking out hard against the spraying. My skies were totally clear today until almost dusk when you could see that, no, they were NOT clear, they were THICK with a whitening stuff that looked puffy in the sunlight like a calm sea. The eastern skyline was heavily polluted with a brown tinge.
Sounds like what's going on in Ukraine
right now...google it up.
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blood filled lungs is what was being expected for H1N1
Since that hadn't been occurring, many believed what was going around wasn't the man-made H1N1, but was just a regular flu being called H1N1. It seemed everyone who had "died from H1N1" had some other medical condition. Then Ukraine started. And now this.
I had posted a 2008 news story about how they isolated the 1918 flu gene and mixed it with regular flu, but according to the CDC website, they were playing around with it since 2004:
http://anonym.to/?http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/1918flupan...
So it's possible they're calling anything whatever they want. How are we supposed to tell the difference? Have a look at these:
New (Swine) flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study (2009)
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE56C3K120090713
"Bird Flu" Similar to Deadly 1918 Flu, Gene Study Finds (2005)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1005_051005_...
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