Christian Evangelical Conservatives Needed for Victory
An Open Letter to Ron Paul Supporters and the Ron Paul Campaign:
I am a professor of Political Science at a U.S. university, and a Ron Paul supporter. I wish to offer some advice to help Ron Paul win the Republican nomination.
Christian evangelical conservatives are the current core base of the Republican Party. Evangelical Christians voted 80% Republican in the last presidential election, and they are the top "super-voters" in primaries (i.e., voted in the last three primaries, and thus are extremely likely to vote in the upcoming primary). Thus, they will single-handedly drive support for whichever candidate wins, especially in closed-primary states. Witness the recent, drastic change in poll numbers for Mike Huckabee, who went from a second-tier candidate to a leading contender, as evangelical voters have moved in droves from Romney and others to support Huckabee, due to what they perceive as his support for their values and beliefs. And, no Republican candidate can win in the general election without significant voter turnout from evangelical Christians.
In short, evangelical conservatives are the key to winning as a Republican. Thus, the reality is that any Republican primary candidate--including Ron Paul--is *very* unlikely to win (place first in) any primaries, and certainly not in any closed primaries, unless a substantial minority, if not a majority, of evangelical Christian voters vote for him in the primaries. Therefore, this is a *critical* voting block Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters need to reach. Therefore, I highly recommend:
1. Ron Paul should try to give as many interviews as possible on conservative Christian media, especially in Iowa and New Hampshire, and on major national media such as CBN and the 700 Club, where he can discuss the many views he has in common with their viewers on many issues, such as his pro-life position, as well as his support for home schooling, low taxes, opposition to the loss of U.S. sovereignty (to prevent one-world government), etc.
2. Ron Paul supporters should discuss Ron Paul with evangelical church members, and especially the pastors of such churches, and especially the pastors of mega-churches. Politely try to set up appointments to speak with these pastors, and provide literature or DVD's, and be *very* polite in discussing Ron Paul. One positive (or negative) comment from the pastor of a congregation--especially one of the mega-churches--can change *many* congregation members' minds, thus changing many voters' minds.
3. Ron Paul supporters can do wide-scale literature distribution at evangelical churches, and can reach a large audience at once at mega-churches, by putting pro-life "slim-jims" on cars during church services, especially in Iowa and New Hampshire well before their primaries. Once Christian evangelicals center around a candidate in the early primaries, they are unlikely to waver in that support nationally. Thus, reaching them in the earliest primaries is doubly critical.
4. Write letters to the editors of local newspapers supporting Ron Paul's moral views, describing his favorable positions, especially his pro-life experience as a doctor, and urge fellow Christians to support him.
There are probably many other things that could be done, but again, try to politely speak with as many evangelical Christians, evangelical pastors, and evangelical media as soon as possible.
Thank you and best of luck to Ron Paul.
Your Rhetoric Isn't Helpful
Who's doing this "murdering"? If you are refering to American soldiers then this is exactly what turns people off, myself included. Although I disagree with the war and think we need to come home, saying we are murdering people is not constructive. It leads people to associate Ron Paul with leftists like Kucinich and Gravel. We need to frame this debate in terms conservatives can understand.
Thank you so much for your important and eloquent message
I've been hoping that someone who can articulate this point well would start a thread like this. It is extremely important for ALL Ron Paul supporters to know that this is a fact. We do need the Christian vote, we need to educate Christians we meet - even on the Internet, not ridicule for supporting Huckabee or Romney.
When someone opens their mind to SEE what Ron Paul stands for and why we're so passionately supporting him, they will likely become a supporter themselves.
Good posts below as well - I'm happy to see this input.
I'm not a member of this site, but it looks really good, I've been meaning to read through the testimonials/endorsements - just read a few so far and they are brilliant.
http://www.christiansforronpaul.com/
Read the endorsements here:
http://www.christiansforronpaul.com/endorse.htm
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a pastor's perspective
While I agree the Christian Conservative vote is important, I believe that it will ultimately be very splintered between a number of candidates, and neither Huckabee, Romney or any of the other "front runners" are going to be able to use this base like Bush/Rove campaign was able to . Also, as an organizer for a meetup of over 450 people, I believe Ron Paul actually has a substanital Christian base of support based on our percentages. I also believe that for the average Christian Conservative, the war is the problem issue, not Israel. Many christian Conservatives have cognitive dissonance when it come to this, unable to see that murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis is as atrocious as murdering hundreds of thousands of unborn babies. Christian conservatives need to be educated on foreign policy, the iraq war, and confronted with their duplicity on their pro-life/pro-war stance. Just my opinion.
Jason Rink is the Executive Director of The Foundation for a Free Society (www.f4fs.org),and co-host of the Austin, TX based radio show Live Free Austin (www.livefreeaustinradio.com). Check out his personal website at www.jasonrink.com.
Your Rhetoric Isn't Helpful
Who's doing this "murdering"? If you are refering to American soldiers then this is exactly what turns people off, myself included. Although I disagree with the war and think we need to come home, saying we are murdering people is not constructive. It leads people to associate Ron Paul with leftists like Kucinich and Gravel. We need to frame this debate in terms conservatives can understand.
Euphemism
Are the US troops having a Sunday picnic over there?
Over 650,000 Iraqis have died since Gulf War II, according to the British Lancet report. Have you ever heard of Depleted Uraninum that is being used in Iraq and elsewhere by US troops and what it does to pregnant mothers and the children who are born with this?
Over 1,000,000 Iraqi children have dies as the direct result of US sanctions implemented and enforced by the US military.
I'll give you a chance to come up with a better euphemism for what the US military is doing in Iraq...
It's so sad...
and then folks wonder why the suicide rate amongst our soldiers is SO high. Many of them suffer so greatly from guilt etc., because of what they have had to do there. It's incredibly sad. They know they need to stop and come home, there are many of them speaking out and of course many who are supporting this campaign.
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Just war and foreign aid
If Ron will explain the just war position, which is based on Christian principles, then those whose support the Iraq war and truly are followers of Jesus will change their minds. As for Israel, isn't America aiding the Arab states, too? We also are pressuring the Israelies to concede more land for a facade. Look, we pushed a Palestinian state when Jordan already IS one. Our present policies are more of a danger to Israel, because we pressure them not to fight back (remember the Iraq war under Saddam - Bush I and the State Department said ' Don't fire back, we'll watch your back') in exchange for fianicial aid, and are pushing them to accept conventiionally indefensable borders, than just letting the Israelies handle it themselves..
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Ignorance is Bliss
Maybe it's not so much that they are "unable to see that murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.."
I suspect they don't know (or don't want to know) about this atrocity (not including the millions that died because of the sanctions under Clinton).
Ron Paul Interview on 700 Club to air Dec 17
David Brody has said the interview he did in Florida with Ron Paul is set to air Dec 17 on the 700 club, be sure to watch! He said he is working really hard to have a real great segment!
To all Christians ...
... and anyone who talks to a Christian about this subject.
Being a Christian myself, is why I do not understand the reason behind the United States protecting Israel. Don’t get me wrong, I love Israel. There wouldn’t be any Christians if there weren’t any Jews.
If any Christian reads their Bible then they would know that God has made a promise to protect Israel under any and all circumstances.
I do believe that God has a better chance of protecting Israel then the United States who can’t even take care of herself. I am sure the people of Israel want us out of there.
There must be many Christian Conservatives against the War
This thread should be kept alive. Ron Paul is pro-life and a Christian. Get the word out..............
Christian Homeschoolers
Hello, my first time writing on here. I am a devout Christian, and have known I will vote for Ron Paul before he announced his candidacy. I have been a homeschooler since 1984. The homeschoolers are a very political group, very active. Whenever there has been any legislation, either federal or state, that may have affected homeschooler's rights, they enmasse, contacted their legislators, and usually won. Homeschoolers in my opinion, would be for Ron Paul, because most of the ones I know teach their children the constitution, both it itself, and the history of it. I am doing my part telling the ones I know, but my suggestion is to really let them know about Ron Paul. Most homeschoolers are underground, as I am, and there are many more homeschoolers than the govt. says there are. If we could convince homeschoolers to get involved, this would spread like wildfire among them, because they have always been very connected, information wise, etc, even before the internet was big. Hope this helps.
Why RP is good for Israel
My concern for Israel was the last issue I had to resolve before wholeheartedly joining the Ron Paul camp. It's true that Ron Paul is not one of those "win someone over in 30 seconds" type of candidates. He needs time to explain (because he builds cases on logic, unlike "those other candidates", and those who take the time to listen to his oh-so logical messages, WILL be won over. It would be wonderful if someone would write an intelligent and convincing essay on how Ron Paul would benefit Israel. I *really* am not versed well enough on the subject to do it myself--I'm talking about someone who knows the nitty gritty ins and outs of how our current policies endager Israel, and how untying their hands will enable them to better defend themselves from those who seek to destroy them. It would be good if this person were a conservative Christian as well, because unfortunately, many Christians, no matter how flawless and truthful the message, won't buy it if it comes from the pen of a non-believer. Such an essay could be dispersed far and wide via email.
Jesus is my Lord and my God, and Ron Paul, champion of all things freedom, including religion and the free exercise thereof, is my choice for president.
To learn the
To learn the truth:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/rel-christians.html
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This is very true
This is very true. I'm a pro-life Catholic and I'm supporting Ron Paul. That's why Ron Paul is GREAT! - LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness! FOR ALL!
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. L
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "
Israel
My Mom and other Christians in her age group FIRMLY believe that we must protect Israel at all costs, even if that means war. When BUSH was talking about invading IRAN because they said that they wanted to blow Israel off the face of the earth, she said she had to stand by that. I really think that BUSH knows the stance on Israel, and how many Christians feel about it, and uses that to his advantage.
Can you please explain?
Help me understand the point your Mom is making about supporting Israel at all costs - is it for religious reasons (e.g., creating a Jewish state fulfills a prophesy in Revelations), or out of wanting to defend a country that represents a group who have been persecuted over the years? I can't seem to find any straight answers out there about why this is such an important issue for Christians (and I am one). Why wouldn't the same concern be out there for Lebanon, for example, which is a fledgling democracy under attack by extremists?
it's all about the End Times, ultimately
It's for religious reasons to a large degree. Israel is supposed to be at the center of Armageddon. Enemy of Israel = enemy of God. That being said, there are lots of mundane reasons to prefer Israel to most of its neighbors, from an American point of view, and these factor in as well. It's a democracy, for instance, and culturally similar to us. I think the key here is that we emphasize that we are not anti- Israel, rather we believe that a nuclear power who has beaten the snot out of the entire Middle East several times doesn't need our financial or military assistance, especially when all their enemies get money from us as well. We're just stirring the pot unnecessarily, and tying their hands with the strings attached to our money. We would be of more help to them in the diplomatic arena if we weren't knee-deep in their business.
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My mother and people like her in the evangelical world
... feel this way because of Revelations. They fly Israeli flags and think they are like gods 2nd favorite children because they so strongly support gods 1st favorite children... the Israelis...
That's a tough one then
If that's the primary reason, then I think we're going to have a tough time getting evangelicals to believe that Israel is better off without our military and financial support. As someone else here pointed out, it takes a more than a sound bite to explain how Ron Paul's foreign policy approach would be a positive for Israel, because it's a little contrarian at first glance. Can we get evangelicals to question such a deep-seated belief? I think it's unlikely in large numbers.
Then again, the GOP candidates who would continue the same path of supporting Israel militarily seem to be discrediting themselves in other ways (I hope people take the time to understand how awful Huckabee is), so maybe Dr. Paul will be the best choice left standing from the Christians' point of view?
$64 Million Question
Why do evangelical Christians fear Ron Paul?
I have a good friend who is a very successful businesswoman, but when it comes to the issue of this election and Ron Paul, she is dead set against him. I asked her why. She could only say that she is scared of him when she hears him speak.
Is it just the war issue (most evangelical Christians listen to talk radio and subscribe to the islamofacist view)?
Or is there more?
Saying this will offend some people, but...
Some people, IMO, worship big government even though they talk a good game about God. You can tell by following the (tax/borrowing) money their preferred canddiates want to spend, and then dividing it by the tithe. They also don't like thinking about money and the nature of money -- it can be (and IS!!!) dishonest as all HELL, but if it says "In God We Trust" on it, THAT'S the issue. Not the underlying honesty. It's as if one of the 3 Wise Men brought green pieces of paper instead of gold. They don't think independently about this kind of stuff, they just worship big government while trying to look like they're complaining about it at the same time. It leads to much cognitive dissonance.
This is especially-true for the tax and spend drugwar, even though they've seen that it produces the opposite results of what we all either want or claim-to-want. They don't seem to see any implication in this that The Creator Of All Things has created a mistake, and certainly not the implication I see in it, that obese-government politicians do not make mistakes.
Ok, zippin'-up the Nomex undies. Flame-away if I need it! :)
JMR
Here's a random general fact about evangelicals..
They like to evangelize.
That means they like to tell people who to worship and why.
Ron Paul won't do that, in fact, just the opposite.
A narrow minded christ sprayer like huckabee is their choice.
That doesn't mean we can't still try....It's just trickier when dealing with people that show no common sense or rationality.
Right, but wrong
1. Right, I enjoy talking to people about God.
2. Wrong, I tell them who I worship and why.
3. Right, but wrong...Ron Paul is a Baptist. He has an unparalleled etical code amongst his contemporaries. He respects the law, our Constitution, and his responsibility by his chosen role to defend it.
4. WRONG. I'm a narrow minded Christ sprayer? Please! Can't we all just get along here? And Mr. Huckabee likes to 'misrepresent' the truth. No thanks, I'll choose liberty!
5. Right. But if by trying, you mean throw names around and generalize, well, I don't think it'd work. We Evangelicals are a bit smarter than you are giving us credit for.
The actions of the few represent in most peoples minds the
rest of evangelicals because the evangelicals do not call them out on it. All these TV snake oil salesmen out there (even small time ones) make the rest of you look like snake oil salesmen also... because you keep letting these people get away with it most people assume you support it..
Snake Oil Preachers Have Free Speech Too
'Nuff said. We Christians believe in and support the first ammendment rights of atheists, cynics, people of other creeds, and snake oil preachers.
Evangelical Christians will rally to Ron Paul as soon as they are aware that he is the most genuinely Christian candidate out there - and the only candidate with a chance of trouncing that Other party. Get the word out, one Christian at a time. That's what we are doing over here.
Chuck Baldwin columns
While I don't totally-agree with everything he says, Chuck Baldwin of the Florida panhandle is very influential, and he's very much in favor of Dr. Paul.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/baldwin
and he rips on the "leading" RINOs & the Rapist-Releaser pretty well.
JMR
DVD of Ron Paul and Pastor Chuck Baldwin in Iowa project
Hello everyone,
I am the organizer of Christians for Ron Paul Meetup grouphttp://ronpaul.meetup.com/1052/ and the newest project the group is doing is trying to get DVDs burn of Ron Paul and Pastor Chuck Baldwin talking at a Pastor's Forum in Iowa. Watch here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4578640723695582811. This is a great video and it seems to be working on Christians who aren't sure about Ron Paul. Our focus right now is Iowa and then working our way to NH.
I have a guy in SC who can burn a lot of DVDs at one time, we just need to get him some DVDs. This is the cheapest I have been able to find them online: http://www.checkoutstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=.... What I would like to see people do is buy the amount of DVDs they could afford to buy and send them to him to burn and he then is going to send them to people in Iowa and possibly New Hampshire to hand out to the Christian Community. If you would like to learn more about this project or help out please email me at ronpaulprez2008@yahoo.com. I think we also need to include Ron Paul's statement of faith and his pro-life slim jim.
In the mean time you can also be burning your own DVDs of this video and sharing it with the people in your states.
If you have any questions please email me at ronpaulprez2008@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Jennifer
Christians For Ron Paul Website
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Christian Website owner
I am a Christian website owner, who has supported Ron Paul even before he declared his candidacy for President.
The day after he declared he would run, my christian website immediate endorsed Ron Paul, as the candidiate who truly understood the oath of political office, and his duty to preserve and protect the Constitution.
His record is impeciable when it comes to the values and ideas of what a Christian should expect from his congressperson.
His ideas right now alone of how to fix our problems in America could not be more right on. Forget all the political conspiracy crap the opposition wants to spew. Limiting federal spending alone would be a great step in securing our nation.
If our security, borders, the war on terror are so important and essential to our preservation, why do we continue spending on Dept. of Education, entitlements, everyday normal government waste, etc...
Nope the other candidates are talking about expanding government.
Where is the sacrifice of the people?
As a Christian I'm ready to sacrifice and cut government to secure our borders and preserve our nation.
I'm not willing to give up on the many values of conservatism, by choosing the other Republican candidates, just to back their one idea of how to handle security, borders, and war on terror. That's foolish!
Nope as for me and my house we will serve the Lord by voting for Ron Paul.
If NeoCons or Libs help to bring about "The End", because we can't get Paul in, then at least I know when Jesus does come back, I did the right thing, by supporting the "Champion of the Constitution" as if I myself took the oath of office, and served the nation.
However I wouldn't want to be those who swore to that oath of office, on the Bible to God, promising they would preserve Liberty and didn't by not following Constitution Rule of Law.
God does say obey the law of the land, which ultimately is the Constitution, "America's King".
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