paul4won on "The God of Light" (for Anisha)

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Do not worry about stroking my ego, I doubt I will be able to check the internet for over a week, and I will not seek out this thread. Someone asked me a question, I want you all to have the opportunity to hear my reply.

The Creator is not a "god." That is the heart of the lie you fell for. "Gods" are things that men pick out from their limited understanding of the Universe, put on a pedestal and worship. The Creator is what it is, regardless of what men do. It requires no worship, and it certainly does not require you or I to tell it who to bless or when to do it. Indeed, it is the height of arrogance to tell an omnipotent entity anything, except "Thank you." Even that is not necessary.

If you dig deep enough, long enough, into every religion and banker, you will end up in Bablyon.

http://www.lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml
"The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christianity. It becomes a much larger problem to Bible literalists, and becomes a huge obstacle for the claims of Mormonism. John J. Robinson in A Pilgrim's Path, pp. 47-48 explains:

"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, I consulted a scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati. What Hebrew name, I asked, was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?

The answer was a surprise. In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer."

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").

http://www.bushstole04.com/fakewar/consciousness.htm
"The corporate-mainstream media "captivates" our attention, capturing a part of our self-reflective, discriminative awareness, thereby restricting the range of our conscious awareness, which is what hypnotism is all about. Once the attention of the masses becomes mesmerized, the corporate/government media can then "play with" our collective mind. This unholy trinity of corporate/government/media can create an obsessive fixation on certain superficial events that "seize" the collective psyche. For example, it feeds the masses sensationalized stories such as Anna Nicole Smith ad nauseam so as to divert our attention from the evil that is being done behind the scenes in our name."

Before the television, they used radio. Before that, they used magazines. Before that, they got together at the Council of Nicea and re-wrote the Bible to suit them. They used good old fashioned witchcraft to get the goyim to practice their spells for them. You even attach the teachings of your savior the THEIR "Old Testament." They have enslaved the people since Babylonian times, and have kept them enslaved by the simple act of asking them to hand responsibility for their soul over to a "higher power." And good hearted, humble people, bow down. Over and over you bow down.

The person who casts the spell defines the terms. You need never know a spell was cast, or that your actions enhance it, to have the energy of your words and deeds feed their spell. They have you afraid to say "TRUTH" for Christ's sake!!!!

A beautiful soul from here at the DP sent me this:

Just place your cursor over any part of the painting and it will tell you about it...this is a highly symbolic painting...I
think it's neat.

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353

Ah, I am afraid I find it a bit creepy.
I don't know what to say any more. I have opened my heart and mind as best I am able. and I see that Jesus is in a similar situation to Lincoln and Jefferson. Their image has been taken and placed on fiat currency to mock them forever in the land they fought for. Their teachings are barely taught, but they are "honored" by having the slaves they fought to free use this symbol of the defeat of these men every day.
Jesus did not want churches. Jesus did not want to be placed above men, he wanted men to be as he was. Jesus warned people to get the bankers out of their temples, indeed, he recommended we not build temples if memory serves - it has been years since I left Christianity. It must have had a tremendous impact. for the banksters have perverted his teachings like no other.
Your photo has a soldier front and center. Which war do you think Jesus wanted? What are the REAL spoils of war? Do you get a bunch of new Christians Or do a bunch of banksters get rich? And most importantly, the "big lie" is front and center - "One Nation Under God." The fascist creed. We are one SPECIES under the Creator, one nation under a set of documents and lines devised by men.
I truly wish you well. You have a heart of gold, I am certain, but you have been deceived, and I no longer know how to reach out to people who tell me I am going to hell because of what I understand. I am not going to hell, I am far more certain of it than any Christian I know. My evidence is the way I will stand up ans speak truth regardless of how many enemies it makes me. Which LIE do you think Jesus considers "OK, just to win the race"? How many 9-11 victims do you think the Creator greeted with "OK, now be quiet, we just need to get Ron Paul elected"?
This movement has lost its soul, and I can no longer stay with it. The final evidence was when Ron Manning and the attorneys managed to doom the CC09 effort at the final hour. Yes, their god, the "God of Light" - Lucifer, did indeed bless their efforts.
A very sad time for me, but I have my path and it is also filled with great joy.
May you know peace, and liberty-

I would not bother even posting this, except I am again compelled to speak truth. I sit here re-reading over and over, trying to perfect it or find a reason to not bother posting, I am not sure. It is not mine to know who will read this and understand.

It is mine to take right action. I have great fondness for the people here, but I cannot stay involved with a group that is becoming, so quickly, what we sought to overthrow. I will be keeping an eye on you folks though, I still believe many of you will come through in the end. That is where my faith lies, in the bit of the Creator that lies in every human.

Anisha, I hope this answers your question.

Now I must chop wood, carry water.

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My take on Christian worldview

Lets just look at the creation issue.

We are all created by a creator; and this creator created us in his image. As we have experienced love for our own children, this love is unique and even some of the most selfish people in this world truly love their children. If we are created in our creators image, think how much he truly does love us if he was able to give us the gift of a selfless love to our children. Our children need nourishment, encouragement and discipline. Our creator gave us free will, our free will allows us to do good and evil; and our nature is for evil. Our creator wants us to do good in this world; and to be the light of the world.

Our rights come from our creator; not man and not the government man has setup; which will always reflect our nature - evil and bondage. It is clear through many passages in the bible that slavery and bondage is wrong and is evil; our creator however has used this as a means of molding some people; so it would only make sense that good and evil must both exist according to our creators plan.

When a creator becomes involved in our worldview; we acknowledge that there is a natural order to what the creator has made, food, water, living, love, evil, etc. I'm a Christian and I accept Jesus (the trinity) as my lord and savior; but anyone who believes in a creator should understand that since we all have free-will; we are free to choose our own path in terms of our beliefs. This is freedom in our religion or religious beliefs. Religious groups are made up of men; and are not pure of God (our creator). Therefore, religious groups will always be flawed and we cannot put our trust, hope and faith in a group of men; but only directly can we put our faith and hopes in our creator (God). I believe our creator loves us, and molds us to how he designed each and every one of us. Our constitution originally acknowledges we have a right to our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I believe this is 100% compatible with Christianity. Our individual beliefs and acknowledgement of a creator and God is voluntary; it is not forced. Jesus never forced anyone into accepting him, it was voluntary. I sincerely believe that all actions not voluntary are flawed, as as man is flawed. Only pure goodness, love, is voluntary. God is love, love is voluntary, and voluntary implies an act of the heart or will of the person without force.

The problem with organized religion today is that they too often believe it's better to utilize the force of government to utilize fear into propagandizing religion. If we as a group of people can all agree that our actions must be voluntary and not utilize force between each other, there is no reason we cannot live in harmony with each other. Our values must clearly dictate that we do no harm to each other.

A society built on the fundamental belief in a creator ; not a particular religion or religious organization would act as a uniter, not a divider. Those not believing in a creator can only acknowledge man as goo, a parasite to the planet, and a soulless and heartless existance. Spirituality has no fundamental basis without a higher power.

That's my $.02 on this subject. Thomas Jefferson once said that the best way to deal with religious disputes is to take no notice of them.

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well-said . . .

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

and thank you.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I should have died many times, but

evidently the plan for my life is not fulfilled. I don't know where it comes from, I really don't care. I just know that you would not have been drawn to the DP just as I would not . There is a mission within each soul that we are here to accomplish. Take the time to look within and one day it will become clear. I spend much time looking and have never given up on the results. I do believe when my souls mission on this earth is complete then I will pass.

We are here at this particular time in history for this time will be trying and only those that work in service to others will survive. YES, I believe everyone here on the DP is working in service to mankind. Each in their on way brings understanding. You will not leave the DP for your souls work has only just begun. Bless you my friend.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, You can thank me for my service by voting for Dr. Ron Paul, President 2012

thanks, Jim

I guess you have been proven partially right already! I hope you are fully correct. It is indeed a sense that I must reflect and seek my place again.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Dear Paul 4 Won

The info you posted contains some glaring inaccuracies such as the statement that the "Roman language" (Latin) did not exist at the time of the writing of the Book of Isaiah. If we take the traditional early date for Isaiah (many scholars wouldn't) of the 8th century B/.C. we find Latin or a proto-Latin must have existed as this corresponds to the period of the Etruscan kings shortly before the Republic arose. However, the point is the Old Testament is written mostly in Hebrew.

Biblical scholars know that the verse in question is literally a reference to a king and/or a Canaanite deity. I've heard this in churches. The notes to a Catholic Bible would tell you as much!

Now as far as your leaving the DP because no one understands the truth but you, I think this a bit ridiculous. Your truth is dubious. The Council of Nicea is not what the nutty British professor said in the Da Vinci Code, viz., that the Emperor Constantine wrote the Bible and proclaimed Jesus a god. If that were true, then how did Constantine (who probably didn't know Hebrew fluently, if at all) rewrite the Jewish Bible in use by Jews today which is identical to the Christian OT? Constantine convened the council and the council compiled the codex of pre-existing manuscripts or what we call today the Christian Bible. I've encountered this before when non-believers latch on to an alternative story and won't let go even if it is completely fallacious or believed by no scholar.

Regardless, though, the DP is not about religion. Being religious "is not "becoming what we are against." I and some in my family who were early supporters of Paul always were and still are Christians. I'm not a Protestant Fundamentalist, but I know that they are a part of the American societal and political fabric. We cannot win without them. Politics is about making alliances.

I've noticed this tendency with others also of an atheistic dogmatic purity. "Truth" is a notion which is in dispute. What you consider "truth" I might think is utter nonsense. However, hopefully we can agree on things like eliminating central banks, imperial wars, the income tax, and advocating for adherence to the Constitution and the Rule of Law..

paul4won

may the wood you gather split with ease and burn hard,

may your water be close to the well and pure as your heart.

bless you, cultivator

May you always have a friend. If you ever think you ran out of them, you forgot me.
;)

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

She asked me a question on pg 2 of the 'I am thinking

of becoming a Celtic Magic Witch''
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/115636

paul4won wrote:

"I knew there was something about you that I felt was different. I think I am getting a clearer sense of you now.
What do you find in this group that pleases you? Is it more than fellowship? I believe the time is come for us to lead by example, and in matters of the spirit above all.
The goal, as I gathered, in Wicca was to grow up and get my own coven. Well, I am OK with being a goddess, I believe I am, and you too. But I don't need other goddesses to FOLLOW me, for cryin' out loud! And once I understand the divine nature of my soul, which soul is more divine, so I ought to follow it?
I value fellowship greatly, but the fellowship of equals. It is very hard to find. The gathering of people to prop up each other's lie is easy to find, but not something I value. What do you find with this group, that you find them worthy of your membership?"

I thought I answered her the best I could. I ended with asking her what draws her here at DP?

As I re-read her comment, however, I sense now there are some 'personal' things here that I didn't notice the first time. I realize now that whatever those 'personal' things are they are hers.

I read another of her comments on the 'thanksgiving' post and I understand there are some painful things that she is working on. She mentioned 'He is a mason and she called him out on that' I can only assume 'he' is either her father or another relative.

This is private for her yet she shared it for all to read. I can only say I would encourage her to seek the 'mason' in her family and have a real heart to heart. She may discover something she didn't catch the first time. This 'mason' has something she needs for peace of mind.

We are having to deal with so much duality, polarization and confusion. It requires enormous discernment and questioning from each of us.

Semantics over the word or name of G-d, who and what it is is really pretty moot.

However, if we do NOT 'acknowledge' this sense of our 'Creator' that permeates all things for the highest good in our national, governmental body, does this not in effect 'negate' each of us, its child?

Do we not 'derive' our un-alienable rights from this 'creative energy'???

OR, would we rather have it that we exchange our dignity for 'privileges' instead, from cunning men of design?

"Do not worry about stroking my ego, I doubt I will be able to check the internet for over a week, and I will not seek out this thread."???

Then what was your intent of even writing this if you don't want to read what people comment? She says she has much affection towards others here yet this thread feels 'contemptuous' in its craft either towards me personally or to others in this movement.

I will choose to trust that the 'bitterness' will not blind you, paul4won, from sincerely spending time with whatever your opposite polarity is and really attempt to 'understand' it. No matter how painful, seek it out.

And I would ask you to bethink yourself about leaving this 'movement'. Your wholeness is required here. If you leave, we will be less.

http://www.mngop54b.org/

http://www.mnlg.org

http://www.therootsofchange.com

http://www.cc2009.us

Anisha, please allow me to clarify

And excuse my lack of clarity in the OP. I did ask you what drew you to that group, then I got swamped and never found your reply. On another thread, you askesd why I believed legalize was invoking Lucifer, that is why I said this was for you. To explain my thoughts, not attempt to accuse you or convince you or anything else - trying to answer your question.
The mason is my sister's husband, and I have spent enough time in his company already. Brutal as it is, he is much older than my sister and I fully intend to save her when he dies. Assuming I am still around!
I am not so much leaving the movement as attempting to find the niche where I am of use to this movement. I do not claim that all I have learned is accurate, or that I am done learning. I do claim that today I have pledged to do my best to speak truth and take right action. What I understand about spell casting and gods leads me to believe that when we settle for "The God of Abraham" we have voluntarily consented to help them cast their god spell. There is SOME protection for those who are mesmerized, their ignorance makes them not terribly useful tools. They will still try to do what is right, and occasionally even wake up to at least part of the ruse and start causing problems. But from my position, I feel bound to abstain from selecting ANY tiny aspect of the Creator and gorifying it above the rest.
At any rate, I will go seek out your answer now, I am sorry I missed it. Thanks for taking the time!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

maybe she meant...

'He is a mason and she called him out on that'

Dr. Paul himself...

True. But in any case I am surprised that she hasn't recognized

that ALL the 'good' things that were developed, thought out, discovered, etc. have all been 'co-opted' by the dark side in equal measure.

And YES that includes freemasonry, religion, education, and all of the many, many establishments for the betterment of humanity. It is pretty obvious to most that these have been so perverted from their original intention, indeed, including our own Constitution!

Even if Dr.Paul is a mason, and I do believe he is, would that make him 'evil'? What about his 'fruits'? Are his fruits evil? Is his voting all these 34 years 100% Constitutional NOT his fruits? Is his HR 1207 evil? I don't think so.

I will use the spirit of Dr.Paul's speech here:

WHAT IF we were wrong about the 'illuminati'? What if the 'illuminati' were actually beautiful souls working for aeons for our freedom from bondage on this planet, but for centuries were co-opted, infiltrated and maligned in such a way to keep seekers from its wisdom considering that it may lead to enlightenment?

WHAT IF instead, people are diverted into planned new age memes and ways that may lead to further disillusionment?

WHAT IF we were wrong about Christianity? What if the 'roots' of this religion DO have enormous empowerment and that this empowerment, if practiced according to its 'roots' may lead to 'enlightenment' just as so many other 'paths' do, yet this 'practice' has been messed with in such a way that the many do not LIVE the teachings and become led so astray as to even committing atrocities at home and abroad?

Please note: It was not I that said she would go to hell, it was a confused fundamentalist that spoke those words to her. I am sad about that and hope she is big enough to forgive others 'who know not what they do'.

http://www.mngop54b.org/

http://www.mnlg.org

http://www.therootsofchange.com

http://www.cc2009.us

good post

thanks for sharing

Paul 4 Won

I would hate to see you leave the movement too. I had a similar feeling when I saw the "Celtic Witch" thread; it is disheartening to see such division between us. Can't we just accept that we are all fellow travelers, all on our journeys to reclaim our sovereignty and our liberty?

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

I seek the place where I am harmonious

Truth is what drives me. I go where it leads.
The saying "Half a truth is still a full lie" is very popular now. What percentage makes the lie OK? 90% truth 90% of the time?
I have to find allies who truly understand what it means to stand beside me. Not in front of me, not behind me, and not on top of me... It really has nothing to do with me. If you stand up, take responsibility for your body and soul and leave me responsible for mine, you will discover I am right there beside you. When you say "Let us pray" I will have to leave the room, and I understand that once I do I will no longer be truly welcome there again.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

WEAK

Your convoluted religious amalgamations aside, you have something to offer here and pulling out due to opposition (perceived or otherwise) smacks of cowardice and after all you've done for the cause I refuse to believe you're a coward. Snap out of it and speak truth, not this copy and paste pseudo-spiritual drivel. If you truly have faith in the little "bit of the Creator that lies in every human" you would not be giving up on them now. Now is the time to fight. Now is the time to band together with believers in liberty, to any degree, to fight against the imminent an overwhelming forces of tyranny. If they have an inkling of desire to be free there is hope for them and time and education from tireless defenders of liberty like your self and those here will win out. I'm sure you'll come to your senses Paul4won and I hope to see you back sooner than later.

poq, I give up on people the way I quite smoking

About 20 times a day...
OK, bad analogy, I did finally quit. But I have this odd little quirk... I love people so much I can't stand them...lol!
Seriously, it becomes very hard for me to see something that would be very helpful for a person, and they just can't see it, take it, do it, understand it, whatever. I think I am somewhat considered a Christian basher now, and the irony is I am beating up on Christians because in general, Christians have not utterly surrendered their goodness, but they think they are good because they are Christian and they are Christian because they are good and were seeking the fellowship of good people...
Anyway. I am clearly back, even if infrequently!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Dear Paul4won

first of all you will not go to hell - you me and everyone on this planet is in "hell" already a "lowest heaven" - perhaps the last planet in this universe that is still un-complete!

yes - correct Churches where used as tools for war and enslavement - how this came about to be?

because as the Bible clearly explains the ruler of this planet is satan - how else would he be able to show all earthly kingdoms to Jesus and say to him "all of them will be yours if you bow to me"?

now about lucifer - you will learn the truth about the force of darkness and the Light - and soon - all you need to do is to tell others Merry Christmas - make children say it to other children especially children - the more of them speak to their parents other children and strangers these simple words _Merry_Christmas_ the faster He comes and helps to set us free.

I am just a poet - not starting any cult religion or some new philosophy - Continental Congress our grassroots efforts and your wonderful work asking questions it is all part of God's plan for America - restoration of the Republic.

every Empire in words history collapsed at some point - and this one will too and soon...
I can clearly hear angels up above already singing in joy that soon our children will no longer be poisoned with drugs suffer wounds and perish in wars...

when a lion sleeps with lamb in peace - there then you will know!

prepared with Love - peace be with you*))

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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul

Merry Christmas? legalize, are you kidding?

Christ told you "This do in remembrance of me" and it was NOT celebrate "Christmas." Pagans laugh long and hard, and rightly so, at your "Christ-mas" because it is as pagan and un-Christian a holiday as you can ask for. Whenever people growl at me for wishing them a happy holiday I want to smack them. THAT is what Christmas is to them now? A reason to hate non-Christians and begrudge them the fact that this was a holiday LONNNNGGGGG before Christ was born?

Do you understand that I have put thousands of hours of research into this? That I have been a seeker of truth long before I knew about conspiracies of lies? I have not come to my knowledge without effort, and not without cost. But in the end, truth is its own reward.

I wish you well, but you may rest assured I will never wish anyone "Merry Christmas." How many Christmas cards bearing wishes for "Peace on Earth" do you think the Corporatists will sell this year?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

You influence more than u know!

Mc Kool Kill
Alot of silent lurkers enjoy your stuff man.

Thanks NRJ3

That was sweet... but I have to wonder how you know what silent lurkers are saying...? lol!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Duh! I'm a little slow

Duh! I'm a little slow sometimes. I had to go back and re-read your post in light of the responses.

Please! don't leave the movement! If you drop out, and others like us drop out, then we will hand this country over to a theocracy sanctioned by the minority! I don't think that most Christians want a theocratic government, though I could be wrong.

I can understand your frustration with the BS that the majority is fed about their beliefs, and its not easy to watch so many be fooled and brainwashed on a continual basis, but without people to fight against it, we will surely end up with a land of programmed humanotrons willing to do what their leaders bid with no questions asked.

Yes, I agree with you that it is disgusting, and demoralizing, how the Christians and the lawyers at CC2009 killed the final document, but because of a few idiots you plan to give up the fight? Its the diversity of opinion and beliefs that caused the founders to create a Republic that would allow us to be as free as humanly possible. I say fight on! and show all that liberty embraces no specific religion. That the quest for freedom can rise above, and is even more glorious, than all the disparate religious beliefs rolled into one.

Keep the faith. You'll be in my thoughts.

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

Thank you, Maeve

I feel more as though I am being led elsewhere than that I am leaving anything. I don't really know what is in store but the deepest "political" truth about my existence here is that I am sovereign, and so I am delving into that. I will probably keep checking the DP for the rest of my life....
Michael slips crack in the headline, I think. ;)

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Lucifer is the literal son

Lucifer is the literal son of Satan himself.. Lucifer is the the super nephalim. The verse in Isiah that you are refering to takes place in the future. The book of Isaiah is a prophetic book. Lucifer is the Anti Christ..
also Lucifer is not latin.. there maybe a lucifer in latin but it means a different thing.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

And when was the last time

And when was the last time you read the Bible in its original language? or asked someone who knows the original language for an exact interpretation? Why do Christians just blindly believe what they are told? Can you please answer that for me? Why do you ( plural) not research the history of your religion? And how can you believe something is real or true if you haven't looked at the facts, or the evolution of the situation? It really surprises me because most Christians are fairly intelligent, and they would never think to believe anything else that they hadn't checked out thoroughly first. Why is your (plural) religion an exception to that rule?

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

Please do not leave. You are

Please do not leave. You are not alone in your doubts about direction this movement is going. Once I was skeptic and doubter, I mocked 911 truthers because I was in deep denial... I am no longer in denial ...I become believer... because of such people like you...
"In god we trust" can be found on reverse of every Federal Reserve Note..
It is sad that so many millions of Americans worship this "god"...
It is sad that so many DPs and TeaParty goers are willing to sacrifice truth and personal liberties just to save a couple hundreds of those "gods" by not paying taxes.It is sad they can't believe that it is possible that 54% of Americans support stupid bill that will reward Corporation Bloodsuckers with billions of taxpayers money...
I wish that 54% ( or maybe even more) socialistic liberals joined Liberty Movement to end the wars on terror, drugs. end the fractional reserve banking scam, abolish FED and patriotic ACT, restrict FDA , FBI, CIA and cut military spending to level necessary for defense not for creating worldwide empire. The true single payer Universal Health Care could be used to not divide but to unite all goodwill Americans and bring the real change not a fake one...

Thank you, Janusz

This post made me catch my breath.
Thank you so much.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

paul4won

Please, please don't leave us. Your contribution is sooo desperately needed to keep a balance I think is necessary for our success. What has been so unique about the Daily Paul has been all the diverse thoughts coming together. I believe there is a higher power, if it is a God I don't know.
It is like a positive energy or something, when it is tapped can do wonders. Thank you, for sharing your knowledge and I found it quite interesting.

There will be those who disagree with you and those of us who will treasure your efforts to inform us of what you have learned.

9-11 IS being revealed and continues to be exposed. It is a huge heavy lie, that will NOT be held over our heads much longer. We are LEARNING their tricks on HOW they manipulate us. Thanks, to people like you, I am no longer under their spell.

Maybe, you need a break I can understand.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

I agree

"Doing nothing is almost always an option and is very often the best option." Daniel Hannan

Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q

Thank you for this. I too

Thank you for this. I too shake my head in amazement more often than not.

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(