Am I about to be framed for a crime?
So, I just did a search for a few of my aliases to see what would come up, and apparently my exact username (sanluisskywatch) was registered at this forum: http://gk43forum.com/ (a gun forum I have never registered for).
SanLuisSkywatch Is an alius I use to post videos of the the governments spraying program over Central California- but I have never signed up for any gun forum, and the site I supposedly signed up for has taken my YouTube profile, copy and pasted it, and made it appear as though I am a gun nut (I don't even own a gun).
Another strange thing that has happened, is the Re-captcha word verification code for craigslist postings they ask my to type keeps coming up with terms like "Bayne Convention" and "Bayne shooter" and stuff like this, and when I looked up "Bayne politics" in the search engine, there is Floyd Bayne, supposedly a Liberty-minded guy running in Virginia who is a member of the 9/12 project.. Is he potentially some guy I'm getting framed for doing something to in the future?
These are probably 2 unrelated things- but I am concerned that I might potentially be getting framed here as I have been a whistleblower against a lot of government programs for a few years now. Do you think there is potential that I am getting framed here? Is there any way to know for sure?





















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sock puppet youtube spoof accounts
i've been observing sock puppet youtube accounts for a while, now.
this is what usually happens:
using faked ip addresses, and a script, a PR firm create thousands of fake youtube accounts. the accounts are used any time there is a significant event, or influential video goes viral.
working to shape the opinion of their peers, it is the sole duty of the professional writers via fake youtube accounts to stomp out the flames, prop up the status quo, and to otherwise naysay an event that otherwise would set off alarms. that is one of the problems with people's tendencies to watch a video, or read a headline, and then read the comments section to see what other people are thinking. this type of social-reliance on others to shape our opinion is especially prevalent with the youth.
so, to control the perception of, say, a kid getting ruthlessly tasered in the UCLA library for no good reason, the PR troops are deployed to do damage control.
mysteriously comments like these show up en masse:
"he should have just complied"
"that kid needs to learn the chain of command"
"that guy was trespassing and needed to be tased"
drown out the normal, run of the mill, comments like:
"omg! that cop needs to lose his job."
"my blood is boiling. i am so saddened to have watched this"
etc...
when youtube was first making their way onto the scene, the fake accounts were very easy to identify. they had the same generic profile. same 2 or three friends. same generic random city, state, same 3 or 4 videos that they stole from somebody else, and same age that never quite fit the profile that they were pretending to represent.
since those days, they fake accounts have gotten better. so much so, that i would rather not even mention the methodology, for fear of losing what little "tells" are still left.
it is increasingly frustrating because, by now, it is very difficult to know if you are reading genuine dissenting youtube comments, or if you are seeing more disinfo moles at work. most of the time it is innocent, but keep your eyes open because they are especially prevalent during big buzz stories, that have just hit the wires and require shaping of mass public opinion.
in the end, i believe your youtube account probably fell into somebody's script that is being used to harvest-accounts at random. their bot roamed youtube, found yours, and has now they have added more ammo to their arsenal.
you should try and contact youtube to see if they can do anything to take care of your duplicate account. they may not be able to, but i think it would be a good thing to do.
i'm sure their just spammers, but who knows what good they're up too.
Gorilla experiment...
I think the problem is more severe than that. I would love to believe the problem was paid shills... It goes much deeper than that... I think the Gorilla experiment explains the problem more than anything else. In some cases, certainly politicians hire shills, etc... We know that groups get infiltrated by the FBI and local law enforcement... But I think that is a small fraction. the rest, really believe that it is ok to taze a college kid, or to shoot a single mom who didn't have a drivers license, etc etc.
"Say you have 5 gorillas in a cage. Dangling up high is a bunch of bananas, and underneath the bananas is a ladder. One gorilla proceeds to climb the ladder, and the entire group is suddenly sprayed with cold water from a firehouse. Each time a gorilla attempts to climb the ladder, they get doused with cold water, until the group attacks whoever tries to climb up in order to avoid being sprayed.
Replace a single gorilla with a new one. Hungry, it goes for the bananas but is shocked to be attacked by the rest of the group. Replace a second gorilla, and when it climbs the ladder, the same thing happens. Eventually the remaining three are replaced, and even though the spraying has stopped, the behavior continues. Replace them continually until, generations later, they just do it because "That's the way it's always been.""
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somebody stole his youtube account for SOME benefit
and it ain't because this is how things always used to be.
they are doing it for some gain other than just social dependence.
reread...
They didn't steal the youtube account. Just stole his profile info for their own use under a different account.
On that subject, I don't know what the motivation was. Could be anything from something nefarious to admiration.
I was just talking about the statements about the comments and such though brought up in the above comment that I was responding to and not about the original OP.
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that's still stealing.
your work is protected by copyright the moment it is fixed in a tangible form. but, i digress. the degree of theft is not particularly relevant, here. if you perceive plagiarism to be not actually stealing, then that's fine by me.
getting back to your point, i think it is very nefarious that people tend to prop up the status-quo by themselves. they don't even work for PR firms. they don't even get paid. they just do it on their own, for free, without giving it any original thought of their own. mindlessly typing away at their keyboards, arguing one fallacy after another.
i think controversial information threatens their very existence. they live in a cozy world. so if you start scratching the surface or rocking the boat, they will be sure to respond with a good tongue lashing.
and that's what i mean to say. there is a difference between your normal run of the mill guy who's mind is totally owned by established thinking. and the fake youtube account scum agents who know they are having an effect on molding opinions.
Answer to Kentrailer's Bohemian Grove question below.
I will give you the direct answer, but remember that you promised to read the WHOLE thing.
Yes, I believe Alex Jones not only proved that it exists, but did a good job of documenting what takes place, including the symbolic sacrificial offering of Care.
However, I do not care if these people worship tin statues of Bilbo Baggins. I also do not care if they want to have gay orgies. What I DO care about is that they, along with many others have systematically worked towards the destruction of the people. The people's liberty, wealth and even their very ability to reason has been stolen.
I believe these people think they rule the world. I don't believe they do, but they do wield a damned good bit of power that makes it almost true.
What I do NOT like is that people like Alex Jones focus on the occult in a dramatic way causing many people to ignore the REAL harm that these people cause as being a fringe topic.
What I do not like is that people like Alex Jones would have you believe that your fight is no more than tilting at windmills by making you believe these people are far more powerful than they really are.
They sap the will to fight from many, and many others turn away as if to say the topic isn't worth discussing because they only see the occult side of what Alex Jones is saying.
Now, why on earth you would ask me that question is beyond me.
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Well, thank you for that
Well, thank you for that detailed response.
I am a little surprised you don't think that our leaders doing a sacrifice to the Babylonian diety Molech isn't something we should be worried about, but to each his own.
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I find it no stranger than...
Symbolic cannibalism (Christianity)
Absolute forgiveness for all evil by just asking (Christianity)
Required human sacrifice including that of your own child (Old Testament)
The use of rape as punishment (David's house was punished in this fashion)
Or
Killing infidels. (Islam)
Or
Pick any mythology you want.
I do NOT mean to be offensive to the above religions. But as you said, to each his own. I do not condemn Christians for their beliefs, nor any other religion, no matter how out there it seems to me.
(I do however have an intense dislike of the religions themselves. But good/bad people come in all flavors.)
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geez,
lrn2interwebz. That is all.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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Wow, that is potentially the
Wow, that is potentially the most useless comment ever.. Care to expand upon that?
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yes...
Interwebz skillz, you dun haz them. Potentially the most silly topic ever on DP. wait...
I'm sorry, you are right ... they are onto you and your yootoobes... better make evac plans, throw your cellphone in the woods, stop using landlines, hurry before its to late.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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Even if you're one in a million, there's still 299 people just like you.
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Ok...
You want a serious response to a silly question? You can't be framed in that fashion on the internet since if they are tracking well enough to use for evidence, it will clearly point to whoever the schmuck is who has snagged your info on the youtube thing.
Captcha is a generic dictionary based algorithm that is NOT watching you...
And as far as the gun nut forum, someone probably saw your username, liked it and wanted to take credit for your work. Take it as a compliment or publicy blast him.
Or kick back and enjoy the delusion that you ARE that important.
p.s. Screaming that government is up to something nasty, is not a whistleblower. A whistleblower is someone who provides evidence that results in convictions of government/corporate officials.
And lastly... If kentrailer is your real name or in any way affiliated with anything you do, pick something more anonymous.
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No, my exact profile was
No, my exact profile was slurped from YouTube, as well as my username, and put on a website I have never visited before.
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Contact the sites and claim copyright violations...
They won't even bother to verify, just shut 'em down (probably).
Maybe I am confused. Do they have login access to your account, or just created an identical copy?
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Whoemever made the account
Whoemever made the account went to my YouTube page, and copied my profile, making and identical profile on this gun website.
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Ok, that's what I thought...
Contact the gun site and claim copyright violations since your profile info (if not the vids themselves) ARE copyright by you. They will likely take down that person's profile.
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I didn't claim copyright
I didn't claim copyright violations, because it's just a username (even though a very peculiar original one), but I did ask that the profile be taken down, when it was created, and what the IP was.
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I made up a character name...
For a novel that I started when I was very young (never finished, and it would have been crap anyway)... Very odd, downright weird name. And yet, I have only a 50/50 chance of catching it on new sites. Coincidences do happen, even odd ones.
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Is it a coincidence that you
Is it a coincidence that you show up trying to convince them they are crazy on practically every thread? Probably not.
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Yep...
I'm a secret spy for the CIA. I have been tracking you for years now. I know everything there is to know about you.
I just saw you peek out the window.
roflmao...
I don't think you are crazy. I am giving rational explanations to what you describe. Take it or leave it....
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No, you're a shill bud, I've
No, you're obviously a shill, I've read your posts, and reports about you around here long enough to know.
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Who am I shilling for?
I'd love to know because they owe me a frickin' check!
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Serious question Wolfe- do
Serious question Wolfe- do you believe that Bohemian Grove exists-.. that our leaders are doing human-sacrifice rituals there?
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I'll answer your question if you promise to read the entire...
response... Deal?
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Yeah, post it here.. can't
Yeah, post it here.. can't wait.
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'k, up top...
It will be long... so I hope you are a man of your word... :)
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Oh, I am.
Oh, I am Wolfey.
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Maybe you aren't, but you
Maybe you aren't, but you always use the same methods to try and convince people of certain subjects. Seems pretty texbook shill-style. Just sayin'.
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