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The high price of the Santa myth (et al.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b01jK--1Kcs

This seems especially important this time of year. I am DELIGHTED that my kids will be teaching their children the value of TRUTH, not the value of selling out. Lights, music, laughter, love and even some gifts, but no lies.

It is how I was raised, how my husband was raised, and how we raised our kids. You know what my kids think of me? That I am an honest person. (Not perfect, they can recite an impressive list of flaws, I am certain!) They never had to wonder why I lied to them for Jesus, or whatever an 8 or 9 year old would think upon discovering their parents had lied every year.

Besides, I worked my butt off for any gifts they get, ain't no elf getting the credit - lol!

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I never believed

in santa. Even when I was like 3 I thought santa was just a cartoon character, like bugs bunny. And when I was in third grade one of the biggest surprises of my young life was when one of my classmates said he couldnt wait for santa clause to bring him gifts and after a breif conversation I figured out he was serious. WOW. Now that I am an adult I find it hard to deal with kids who believe in santa clause. Granted most of the kids I know are taught that santa clause is not real (good christian homes you know).

I am a Christian who didn't do the Santa myth--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

a majority of my children rebelled and re-invented Santa for themselves, and only one is determined to tell the next generation the truth--and not have Santa.

So much for being honest with children . . .

only one accepted the truth--

ah well . . .

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

My kids think santa wears a

My kids think santa wears a brown suit and drives a brown truck, and then I have all our gifts delivered via UPS.

He also delivers

your neighbor's diabetic supplies in the off-season.

Defend Liberty!

Where's the "high price"?

Maybe it's a good lesson for kids to be lied to about Santa. Then they grow up, start thinking for themselves, realize that they've been lied to about Santa, the easter bunny, god?. They then realize that no matter how convincing it is what people tell them, they have to take it with a grain of salt and IT JUST MIGHT NOT BE TRUE! Pretty good lesson, I'd say.

Oh wait, here's the high price: your kids eventually realize that you're a liar. Yeah, that's not good.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Well, don't tell my parents...but I've known Santa was not real

since I was 9 when one of his "helpers" (grandma) made a silly goof by losing a label from one of my gifts and asking me for a replacement one to which I discovered the next day on xmas had been signed from "Santa". Major, MAJOR tip-off! LOL
Was a little disappointing but I think I had also discovered the tooth fairy not to be real that same year, I'd always been suspicious of the 2 but I believed it for my parents' sake. hahaha

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

OG reason for x-mas was called saturnalia

1-2 week fest man on man action making merry on Dec 25 BC in Roman days,not about Jesus in the beginning.

Right! My kids know all those tales.

They know the origin of the various traditional decorations; the mistletoe, the wreath, the tree. They know the story of St Nicholas and how it evolved into Santa. We educated our children about what was going on in the world around them, we just did not engage them in the lie.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

and they actually believed you . . . ? LOL!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Wow, I am impressed. You were a better teacher than I. Most of my children rebelled and re-invented Santa for themselves; only one clung stubbornly to the tradition we tried to foster of mom and dad giving children presents during the winter festival.

And we made our winter festival minus Santa a LOT of fun--

but most of our children resented the truth; most of them wanted, like their friends, to have santa--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Welcome back, paul4won

I'm wondering why you celebrate Christmas at all?

Just curious.

I do not

I celebrate Winter.
And I celebrate life, year round.

Am I to assume from your comment being merely a little personal jab that you found nothing worthwhile in the link?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

no personal jab here . . . I don't celebrate Christmas, and I am

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

a Christian.

I enjoy the winter traditions, minus Santa.

As a Christian I think it's an insult to Jesus to have all the noise and distraction, so I just do cookies and candles and the warm fire and MODEST presents--

and be grateful for another year of growth.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

No

I don't celebrate Christmas but value your opinion. I was surprised that you celebrate it....that you celebrate winter makes more sense to me, from what I know of you (putting a high premium on honesty and consistency.) Even if you did, I wouldn't think less of you...just wondering how you rationalize it. Out of curiosity, as I said.

OK, sorry I got touchy

And I "rationalize" doing something because winter is cold and dark around here, I need an excuse to celebrate! ;)

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I should have told you more

about myself up front. Then you would have understood I wasn't challenging you.

We made up a holiday that's like Christmas in some ways but entirely secular and our own creation...winter IS cold and dark and a good time for celebration, I agree. :)

I have a paper mache' ski mountain :)

I have this huge mountain scene mural in my tiny living room, and I set up my mountain, complete with ski lift built out of Popsicle sticks and toothpicks and such. It overlooks a "lake" (mirror) upon which bears, snowmen, etc skate. At the edge of the lake is a little village where the homes light up. My "holiday shopping" consists of searching for little ornaments that fit this winter scene. I have an aspen grove now, a campfire and little elf band...
Oh my, I need to get a life, don't I? I think I am in line for about a dozen cats next... lol!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I love that

Reminds me of a giant train layout we visit each year...I wish we had one of our own, but we haven't got room for it. Someday....!

I had five cats once, so you know I am a certified weirdo, too. :)

Guys... get a room!

This niceness is in appropriate on DP...

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

TROLL!!!

Is that better?
;)

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Ouch! You hurt my ears!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

Much better, thank you!

Now, back to previously scheduled fighting.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

LOL

(I posted that before, but it was moderated out.)

lmao.

that's too funny.

LOL

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