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WAR PRESIDENT- Front Page of Michael Moore's Website




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I just registered

at his website so I could post a comment. I don't know if it will get thru his vetting, but I told the MM crowd to come over here to watch all the great videos of Ron that were taped today. I think we should get the dailypaul mentioned on there as much as possible. Ron was smokin' today.

I think Dr. Paul needs to reach out to Mr. Moore

Because I sincerely believe that Dr. Paul's message and humility can change Moore; Moore is as anti-war as anyone from what I've seen and Dr. Paul has the message and reasons why we are at perpetual war.

I think it's time Michael Moore started listening to Dr. Paul. He has disagreements on healthcare... Dr. Paul and Moore both agree on corporatism; Michael Moore calls it capitalism. The free market is the only way to stop the perpetual war, end the fed, etc. This is something we can rally around; the healthcare issue is a biggie but it's possible down the road he will change his mind when he realizes the loss of freedom.

The one thing I despise Moore for is his treatment of Charlton Heston in bowling for columbine. It was unforgivable.
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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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I think this is a great time all of us to 'reach out' to

Mike. If he is sincere as I hope he is, he will come on our side. When he realizes that what we have been saying for the last three years he might be ripe to get on board and 'learn'.

He ought to know about the Continental Congress 2009. Once he studies it it may resonate with him unless he is an avid socialist/communist traitor!

I will gladly write to him and get him over already : )

http://www.mngop54b.org/

http://www.mnlg.org

http://www.therootsofchange.com

http://www.cc2009.us

obama was never the anti war

obama was never the anti war presidential candidate. he was always calling for the pre emptive bombing of pakistan, "defending" israel from iran and continuing the war in afghanistan. i'm glad moore wrote this. whether we like it or not, a lot of people listen to him and he is very influential.

I hate Moore..... but

I hate Moore..... but atleast he is not being a hypocrit here.. he is standing on what he has said.. most of the idiots who supported obumma
are silent about the ending the wars lie... atleast Moore is not patting that illegal POTUS on the head... like the post below,.. what do ashton and demi think now?

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

I wonder what Demi & Ashton

think about all this. Will they still pledge their servitude to Obama? (Don't most "celebrities" claim they are against war?) Or will they rally around him, their messiah? (Just thinking out loud.)

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" MLK

LOL....good point. Those

LOL....good point. Those people made fools out of themselves for promising to "serve" the President.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

controlling the opposition

He's being used by the elite to take control of the opposition, in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if they start a third party in opposition to the other two they control.

Here's how Moore is used.
Documentary on GM. Boo Hiss GM. Now they own it.
Documentary on Healthcare. Boo Hiss! Now they own it.
Documentary on Capitalism. Boo Hiss! You get the picture...

Ask yourself why Moore is so BIG (I don't mean fat). There are many better documentary makers making better documentaries. Aaron "Trading Places" Russo couldn't even get distribution for F2F. Moore is being used to take control of the anti-war movement for his masters IMO.

we are the Remnant

we are the Remnant

Good points...

Though I still applaud him for making Fahrenheit 9/11.

But you're right... he's a liberal, and those are all liberal talking points.

I just hope he's more of an anti-war advocate than a socialist (err.. with the way he blindly supported Obama during the election... not likely.)

I can't believe he keeps insisting that Obama is a good and decent man. Anyone who is willing to put men and women's lives on the line for political expediency and special interests is a devil. Plain and simple.

It looks like Bush and Obama have the same speech writers.

"When I despair, I remember that all through history, the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and, for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it... always."
~ Mahatma Ghandi

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"Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you stand alone."
~ Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."
~ Ron Paul
"You must be the change you want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

sure they do.... they come

sure they do.... they come from the same corporations nad banks who run the world.... meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

And I

am pleased that what Bush said, immediately followed by what Obama said, is right there, on Moore's front page, in big bold letters, for the masses to see...

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Glenn Greenwald did an excellent job comparing the war speeches

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/01...

I am impressed with Michael Moore's reaction. He's FINALLY seeing Obama without the mask on.

I'm glad Moore is taking a

I'm glad Moore is taking a stand on this issue, and not selling out! At first it seemed like Moore might be supporting Obama no matter what the circumstances were, but instead he is sticking to his guns and staying anti-war. Cheers Michael for not selling out, and staying true to your beliefs. The pro peace movement is glad to still have you here!

Here's an email I recevied from a Liberal friend of mine

"Yep. I have finally reached the cynic stage. All hope for change is gone. Our government is the puppet of the military and corporate complex. I’m done believing Obama is any different than any other politician."

Looks like we're going to have more anti-government libertarians joining us!

If your friend supported

If your friend supported Obama it is unlikely that she is for limited government, individual liberty and capitalism.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Will we have a visitor? (Shines shoes on pants)

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

While I totally distrust Michael Moore

I'm glad he is taking a stand on this.
This just might wake up my sheeple liberal friends.
Strangely enough all during the Bush wars they where blasting him
for the wars ..I agreed with them.
BUT now they have been saying Obama must know something we don't
and he is justified for not ending the wars. I was like hello isn't that the same defense allot of republican's used during the Bush years ?

"This just might wake up my sheeple liberal friends."

No it won't.

Jessie Ventura was on the right track.

Are there any anti war politicians out there who will bring legislation to the table instituting a war time 15% sales tax increase, war time gas rationing, immediate re-institution of the draft and an increase in the work week to 50 hours?

THAT MIGHT WAKE PEOPLE UP.

Until the average Joe and Jane are PERSONALLY effected by the "wars" in the ME, they will remain apathetic.

Uh...you're a Ron Paul

Uh...you're a Ron Paul supporter that wants to bring back the draft and raise taxes? Wow...I guess creating more wrongs to go with this war somehow make it right. So attack our freedom and individual liberty is what you're saying.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Of course not jason. A bill like this would never get passed.

The proposal is a back door approach to get the American people to stand up and take notice of what is going on. Just like you, the people would be up in arms about this type of legislation and would start asking more questions about why we are there.

Charlie Rangel tried this in

Charlie Rangel tried this in 05/06. It didn't work.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Really? Type in Charlie Rangel into a google search and

all that comes up is his tax evasion and fraud charges. Guess he was the wrong man to try to convince Americans to hand over their money in support of a war effort. I'm researching now and hope to find the right candidate who might have the balls to propose something so outlandish that it will force the people to wake the phuck up. If one wants to get the attention of another, try to take their money.

Yeah I'm aware of his

Yeah I'm aware of his corruption. The stunt is the same.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Stunt? At this point I don't care what it takes to get the

people to rise and take action. BTW, when you say Randles "stunt" didn't work, I have to ask myself why. Was it public opposition? Again, I don't advocate the suggestion in my previous post, I just want a politician to propose it and spark public outcry and at the very least cause people to ask themselves why we are in the ME and why does the government want more of my fruits to pay for it.

I guarantee you, if legislation was proposed to enact the draft, raise sales tax 15%, increase the work week to 50 hours and ration gasoline all in the name of our "war" effort, the majority would rise. That's why it hasn't been done.

His stunt didn't work

His stunt didn't work because the draft has not been reinstated. He even voted against it.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Fine warrior, you obviously don't get what I'm saying. Some

people can think outside the box, most people can't.

IIRC it was a call for a draft

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

Good point. I have

Good point. I have conservative friends that are blasting him when just a few short years ago they applauding such a move by Bush, although Bush never declared an exit date.

These two parties are the same coin, just slightly different sides. Whose the Chicken-hawk now.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

WarBama

I gave this moniker to Obama several months ago. It is now proven to be correct. Not only is Obama making the same mistakes that Johnson made during Vietnam he is making them for the same reasons. The underlying reason is not about your safety or security its about money. The outcome will be the same only greater. A nation deeply in debt with no alternative but to change the rules. A new monetary system will be ushered in after we are completely bankrupt from continuous endless wars and overhaul of the healthcare system, bailouts of businesses and banks deemed to big to fail, etc.

Nixon took the U.S off the gold standard because we were so deep in debt after Vietnam that the gold was flying out of the treasury so fast that we would have been soon bankrupted. So a new system was ushered in, the Petrodollar. This is the current( and soon to fail system) of money that is of course unconstitutional.

This lastest effort will be another gigantic waste of lives and money in the name of safety and security that will achieve its ultimate goal of ushering in the next monetary system and the NWO.