"Logic" wrote an excellent analysis of "religion"

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that could have been an interesting and productive debate. He/She obviously spent a LOT of time on it, felt strongly about it and the thread deserved discussion. But some spineless mod chose to delete the thread. SHAME ON YOU whoever you are.

Logic: stop reading the books and listening to men- go outside, lift your face to the heavens and speak directly to your creator. The books and the doctrines and the dogma have all been corrupted to obfuscate God's purpose. Santa and all the rest are designed to confound your relationship with your creator. They're designed to make it everything spiritual seem like a fairytale. You're bing lied to.

You don't need a priest or a prophet or a preacher. You're obviously searching for the truth. Ask, with a sincere heart, and it will be revealed. God doesn't jump through hoops to prove himself- he's not gonna do bar-tricks for your affirmation. But He will reveal himself in ways that will leave no doubt.

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Weathered that storm

Saw all these religious posts from one guy and walked away. Like everyone else should have done. Some peoples kids.

I can see the fires from those flame wars are still burning onto other threads. Time to walk away. This thread is heating up.

Well shame on me then.

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Why Michael?

It was a good starting point for discussion. As much as the secularists like for us to believe that man potentially has the solutions, good government has to have an overriding belief in a higher power.

Your forum- your rules. I willingly concede.

But a society without God is lost. All that's left is the broken moral compass of man. Follow baseless rules of men at your peril.

My respect and my thanks to you.

OH MAN... REALLLY???

Why? Was his any worse than any others??

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Hmmm

Combative. Not something I think is going to win over the owner of this site. You must admit that was one too many posts on "its" pet project.

I found it less combative than the others...

and much,much, more objective. But by it's shear logic, it was threatening I suppose, as it made too much sense and made even the most steadfast of the faithful question things?

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Yeah, who WAS that spineless Mod???

Allow all these hyper-religious threads, and lock the one that makes the most sense? Wow, shame on you indeed.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I called him to debate

for over an hour no response but cut and paste

I kept seeing you saying you

I kept seeing you saying you were waiting for something but I never found what you wanted a response to. If you want to debate I will gladly accept, but through individual e-mail, because I was a member here for almost 2 years and got banned for defending the Atheist view point.

If we debate privately,

and I convince you will you concede to God?

Why can't we debate here?

The debate can be civil between us. The attacks were public so should be our responses. I'm not some arrogant know it all but if we can learn from each other and learn to disagree like fellow patriots then all will benefit. We need to debate one part of the bible at a time and no cut and paste.

It's been shown that it's

It's been shown that it's not welcome here. Not to mention, as I've said MANY times before, this is not the place for that. This board is meant for the movement, not religion. I will gladly discuss this with you in private or in another venue, which I have also invited others to in the past, but out of respect for the others, and Michael and this site, I'm not going to do it here.I think one banning is enough. And yes, the debate can most certainly be civil between us.

he got banned.... A

he got banned....

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

And you'll be next.

And you'll be next.

I take no pleasure in seeing

I take no pleasure in seeing anyone banned Micheal.. I am not gloating like some of the others did when Sierra got the axe... we were debating I was not getting personal or trying to call names.. I learned my lesson.. but when someone attacks anothers belifs , do you expuct us just to sit here and take it? go look at fedors threads.. his personal attacks.. you can't tell me you can't read his p[osts and not see an agenda?
go look at the things vlbc/neocconed wrote on my thread that was locked.. sorry but I will not watch people here put down Christ, or the bible.. especially when Ron Paul himself believes these things to be true... I have no idea if you can see it or not, or just don't have the time.. But their are some posts recently that stink with troll or government paid blogger all over them... are we just supposed to sit here and oxpose them? I am doing my best not to get personal.... Logic and I went round and round.. but seriously I take no pleasure in seeing him banned.. As far as I am concerned anyone here, atheist, Christian, or what ever who supports Ron Paul is good in my book.. we may disagree on some things and I can live with that.. but there is one who is doing the damage..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

$20 bucks if you do! :)

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

and you like fedor put words

and you like fedor put words in others mouths and accuse....

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.