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Kent Hovinds case was submitted today for reconsideration to the supreme Court

...the issues submitted (today) for reconsideration to the Supreme Court will affect every American – I thought I would give a very brief summary of the issues I’m in prison for, and encourage those of you who feel led to contact your Senator (202 – switchboard number), Congressman (202 – Congressman number), and even the President (202 – number), or news media to let them know you are interested in the outcome of this case, and that you would like them to rule in my favor and release me.

The first issue is “structuring.” We went to our own bank to withdraw ministry money donated or earned in legitimate ways to spend on legitimate ministry bills. On average the withdrawals were 12 days apart. No problem.

Years ago, congress passed laws to stop drug dealers from laundering large amounts of cash, so any deposits over $10,000 required a form to be filled out. If a person “structured” transactions, by breaking down large amounts into deposits under $10,000 to evade the reporting requirements, they would be guilty of one count of structuring and could get 5 years in prison. The few times we withdrew over $10,000 the bank filled out their form. No problem. The IRS went through the account and cherry picked 45 times when the withdrawal was under $10,000 and charged each one as a separate count. If this is not overturned on appeal, anyone who takes any amount of money out of their bank account could be charged with structuring. Our withdrawals were not part of a larger sum being broken down on one day to avoid anything, and there were no drugs or drug money involved. After a two-week trial, our lawyers advised us not to give a defense, since no law was broken. After the closing arguments, the judge changed the jury instructions to say that if they found we took out less than $10,000, they must find us guilty! Do you ever take your own money out of your own bank where you have banked for 10 years? Get ready to join me.

The second issue covers all of Jo’s charges (as does the first), and all but one of mine. In 1980 Congress, passed the Paperwork Reduction Act – PRA, which says no one can be penalized for failing to fill out (or refusing to fill out) a form that is expired, out of date, or bootleg. It said that all government forms expire in 3 years and they must display a valid OMB # or you can ignore them. Aside from many other issues involved in my case, just the PRA is clear. Yet, I was given 5 years for not filling out a form that did not follow the PRA. In 1995 the PRA was made even stronger. The question is simple: Does the government have to obey the law as well as the people? If you think they should be held to the same standard, maybe you need to call and let them know?

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Paper the cars at court house with Jury nullification notices...

The worst they can do is find you in contempt and jury tampering... but in order to convict they would have to show the flyers about jury nullification thereby tainting their own jury pool... AWESOME how their own crap can be used against them... huh?
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

LOL

that is funny. Its like go ahead and punish me it will hurt you more than it hurts me =D

Precisely... this is a chink in the armor...

The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

Hey - since he's renounced

Hey - since he's renounced his citizenship, how about they just take him out of prison, put him in a rowboat and tow him out into international waters.

we are all guilty of what

we are all guilty of what ever the kangaroo courts want us to be. think about the patriot act, you are a fugitive, they just haven't picked you up yet. Be cautious judging your fellow patriots fighting the corruption. Kent Hovind was a true pastor, no 501c3, he was way ahead of his time

exactly why I posted this story

Kent is a true patriot, and a very well known patriot. I still meet christians today who know who kent hovind is and love what he has done in the creation field, but dont know he is in prison. When I tell them why they are amazed that this could happen in america.

What's grim is Kent Hovind getting busted...

for leaving a floater.... 5:20 in at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKMhtyI3L8

Also in this clip he proves evolution. Some serious stuff here...

Wikipedia: "In 1996 Hovind unsuccessfully filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying federal income taxes claiming he wasn't a citizen of the US and did not earn income.[130] Hovind was found to have lied about his possessions and income.[131] He claimed that as a minister of God everything he owns belonged to God and he is not subject to paying taxes to the United States on the money he received for doing God's work"

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Kinda off subject but,

I would like to know. Since you really believe in macro-evolution. How do you think the caterpillar evolved? and how did it know to go into a chrysalis stage and turn into a butterfly and fly all the way to Mexico where it's never been before and meet other Monarch butterflies? I can't even begin to understand how that can evolve. How did it's guidance system evolve?

“I don't think we should go to the moon. I think we maybe should send some politicians up there.” -Ron Paul

www.youtube.com/ronpaultunes
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And wiki knows all. sarcasm.

I know many atheist hate kent, but that is beside the point. He was put into prison for taking money out of the bank. For taking his own money out of the bank. And unless the supreme court overturns this decision, we will have "judges" doing this all over the u.s. to put us patriots in the fema camps.

Furthermore, kent is the one that got me into the freedom movement, as I am sure he has gotten many others into the freedom movement so he has been profitable to the cause.

so please put your feelings aside and see the bigger picture.

What does Ron Paul say about Tax Evasion?

Do you deny that this was tax evasion, pure and simple? Note that I'm not asking whether taxes are fair -- we all know that they are not -- but is Kent guilty of tax evasion???

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I thought this guy was

I thought this guy was guilty of something called "structuring?"

I believe Ron Paul's position on the income tax is that it shouldn't exist.

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NO

The law in question says that this particular kind of tax evasion is when someone deposits over ten thousand dollars into the bank in two or more deposits in one day with the deposits equaling less than ten thousand dollars.

The evidence the irs turned over shows cse ministries depositing less than ten thousand dollars (about nine thousand) about once every other week. So kent did not break this law on "tax evasion".

I would say go to penaltyprotester.com to see the official court transcript but apparently the "court" (judge) has ordered them to shut down the site.

Really?

"Twelve of the charges were for failing to pay employee-related taxes, totaling $473,818, and 45 of the charges were for evading reporting requirements by making multiple cash withdrawals just under the $10,000 reporting requirement (a technique known as "smurfing"). The withdrawals, totaling $430,500, were made in 2001 and 2002.[140] Jo Delia Hovind, his wife, faced 44 charges.[141]"

Hovind is a swindler of both the government -- hurray if you get away with it -- but also of the weak and ignorant.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

question

besides your contempt for kents views on creation and the bible what other philosophical differences do you have with hovand? I am just asking because kent covers a lot of stuff about freedom in his seminar.

He was found not guilty of the employee stuff

even though a lot of the atheist blogs say other wise.

furthermore he did not have multiple withdraws in a single day (which the law clearly says must happen) and the law clearly states that you must go over ten thousand dollars.

BUMP!

...in hopes ALL liberty-minded patriots begin to stop cherry-picking, elevating, demanding and elevating secular non-Christians as MORE patriotic LEADERS of this movement geared towards taking back our Republic!

This guy was WAY AHEAD of what conservative talk radio, and Alex Jones has to offer us these days...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1075889084907769093#

www.wearechangemichigan.org

love this guy to.

love this guy to.

Dang, that is grim.

What the heck. Maybe, the answer is we all close our accounts, this stuff is getting crazy.

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