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Ron Paul on Fox Business with Neil Cavuto 12-9-09




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Debbie's picture

Great interview!

Businesses are being driven overseas because of all our taxes.

Debbie

:-)

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"God is at home, it's we who have gone out for a walk."
Meister Eckhart

Fox is not for RP but against Obama

I think the mainstream is, for whatever reason, turning against Obama. Maybe he went and chose the wrong neo-democons. He is very much supported by the Wall Street and he has done all the favors possible for them - see Mike Taibbi video for details.

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/taibbi-obamas-big-sellout/

Or maybe the support of the cap-and-trade despite climategate and overwhelming evidence that man made climate change is total fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot#p/u/3/UNRW5qMRnIU

Let's not forget that the owner of Fox Rupert Murdoch is truly one of the bad guys and would rather endorse Mussolini than Ron Paul for president.

Ron Paul is currently useful as he brings ratings and much sought after Main Street advertising dollars. But the owners and mega-billionaires don't want gold standard anymore that they would want people educated on how the world really works with GMO foods, Big-pharma, military-industrial complex, controlled media and controlled opposition with two party system lead by collectivistic hacks.

In order to tide to really turn people need to wake up, turn off the TV and start reading and educating themselves on the ways of the world. Also crucial is to make sure that the next generation is not taught to be citizens of 1984 or Brave New World with newspeak and soma. This will make the revolution happen.

Murdoch endorsed Obama.

And any reader of Murdoch's print media could easily see his bias throughout the campaign.

Not entirely surprising, of course, given Murdoch's long-standing neocollectivism. I have to imagine though, that Murdoch does NOT micromanage his TV network. Not everybody in his "news" division will be totally on message, and I have to assume that unless Cavuto and Beck start calling for a repeal of the state of perpetual war their jobs will continue to be safe.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

What interest does Murdoch have in

perpetual war?

He favors it

. . . as you've no doubt noticed. As to why, you'll need to ask him, or his priest.

I can only speculate. I'll make a guess if you will.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

No I dont want guesses.

I'm tired of all these hypotheses, with no evidence whatsoever. Where is the evidence? How does Murdoch stand to benefit from perpetual war?

I don't care what you're "tired of."

What on earth would make you think otherwise? You asked a question. I answered it. I invited you to make a guess as to why he believes what he does, since you seemed to want to engage in a discussion. If I am wrong, and all you wanted was the answer to that one question, I gave it to you.

What "hypotheses" are you talking about? You seem to be having a dialog with someone (Lord only knows who) regarding something that I can only speculate on. And no, that's an invitation I would have to decline.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I asked what interested Murdoch has in perpetual war

you didn't answer that. Why would Murdoch want perpetual war. You just said he favors perpetual war. You didn't even give any evidence for that, much less for that he reaps some kind of benefit from it.

I think you anti-Murdoch people have a created a boogeyman where none exists.

I did answer it, quite directly.

He favors it. I don't know why; that would be a separate question, which would involve getting inside Mr. Murdoch's head. Hence, my rejoinder.

I don't know what you mean by "you guys." Is someone chasing you?

How much clearer could I be?
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I didnt ask if he favored it.

I asked what he had to gain from perpetual war.

But now you've made a claim that he favors perpetual war. Do you have evidence for that?

I don't know what you mean by "now."

It was my first answer to you.

My evidence is the consistent viewpoint of Murdoch's media outlets. Surely you've noticed.

You're the one who's implying that he must have something to "gain" if he favors it. What causes you to make that assumption?

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

People don't push for something

unless they feel they have something to gain by doing so.

If you can give reason to believe that Murdoch has something to gain from pushing perpetual war, then it would give credibility to your claim that Beck and Cavuto would lose their jobs if they promoted anti-war views. Without any reason to believe that Murdoch benefits from perpetual war, there isn't a reason to believe that Murdoch cares whether Beck or Cavuto promote anti-war views.

In short, your statement that :"I have to assume that unless Cavuto and Beck start calling for a repeal of the state of perpetual war their jobs will continue to be safe" appears to be based on nothing at all. Where is some evidence that they would lose their jobs? The Judge, for instance, has been on promoting anti-war views. Cody Willard has as well. John Stossel promotes anti-war views. And Beck himself has said that he's leaning toward a non-interventionist foreign policy the more he learns.

It's just an assumption that so many have on this site that Murdoch wants all his reporters to be pro-war. There is nothing to back up the claim.

I bet Murdoch is not nearly the bad guy you made yourself believe he is.

Silly.

Plenty of people have beliefs or advocate things that don't involve "gain." I could think of many, as could you. Economics do not determine every decision, no matter what Karl Marx said.

I never said that I had "evidence" that they (Beck and/or Cavuto) would lose their jobs. How would I? Their "antiwar" views are a hypothetical that hasn't occurred. It is something that can ONLY be an opinion, as I quite clearly stated and which you would have noticed had you bothered to read carefully.

Beck and Cavuto are prime time. Stossel is not exactly antiwar, although you are quite correct if you are trying to say that he doesn't display the typical Murdoch hawkishness. But neither he nor Willard occupy the premiere slots that the former two do. And Napolitano is only a guest host, although he has his internet show. As I explained above, not everyone is totally on message. But the prime slots will be occupied by defenders of war.

And if you're seriously claiming that you are unaware that the Murdoch outlets are, in general, pro-war, I must say that I find that claim disingenuous.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Prove that Rupert Murdoch is a "bad guy."

I find your statement "the owner of Fox Rupert Murdoch is truly one of the bad guys and would rather endorse Mussolini than Ron Paul for president" RIDICULOUS.

Where is your evidence that Murdoch is an evil man?

Have you seen outfoxed?

Try the link or type outfoxed to google video.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=outfoxed&hl=en&client=...

Gives on you and idea where this man is coming from.

He is also one of the "good guys" who participates to the collectivist elite Bilderberg meetings to figure out what to do with the sheeple, what they should think and know and thus makes sure there is no objective media.

Seen it.

It's really stupid. And it's very anti-capitalist. It's obviously socialist propaganda, promoting government regulation of media.

Most ludicrous is the criticism of the phrase "Some say.." All that it is a tool to try to be balanced, by presenting the other side. And all interviewers use it, not just Fox.

And attending Bilderberg meetings?

Makes him " a good guy" in your books. Get real. These guys control media and thus made sure that McInsane got enough coverage to get the republican nomination. If RP had had the same amount he would be president.

There are only two philosophies collectivist vs individualists. Rupert is in the camp that starts with c. He is one those guys who wants the Orwellian socieaty where a small group of elites rule. If thought otherwise a) he would have no money as he too would be a reject b) he would run objective coverage on the controversial topics like climate change, false flag operations, perpetual war etc.

He allowed his network to

He allowed his network to read propaganda from the genocidal Bush Administration on air.

Ventura 2012

That's it????

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Yeah, that's it :/

Yeah, that's it :/

Ventura 2012

Ron Paul... Rock Star

50 times the air time now than he got during the campaign.

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

You have to earn your place on TV

by proving you can bring in the ratings. To give Paul a lot of air time in the beginning when hardly anyone knew who he was would be doing a disservice to stockholders.

LOL weren't you banned?

LOL weren't you banned?

Ventura 2012

It more a question of one's agenda.

That's not true. There are a lot no name know nothings on TV all the time.

If you tell people what they want to hear, then you get on TV. Then after telling people what they want to hear, people respond by warming up to the peddled products to show thier thanks.

That serves the stockholders.

All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

With the amounts of money that the FED has in play

I even have doubts as to the validity of the "We have to make our shareholders happy" line. This is the reason the AUDIT is crucial.
What if you had all your eggs in in your 401-K rolled into equities only to learn that the FED was essentially the sole owner ? Or commodities based stocks..Remember the plunge protection team. Remember these people have been printing money without oversight for nearly 100 years. THINK ABOUT THAT ? Front companies run through the CIA, FBI..God knows what kind of crap they've got going on...I know one thing this is a very deep rabbit hole and things ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Ha, ha!

Fox TV, Ron Paul's best friend.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

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sad how just 1 yr ago Ron Paul was shunned by them all...

In just 1 year he has become a genius...amazing :-)
the sheeple are awakening

if everyone just would have listened to him 30 yrs ago,
think where we would be now...

northstar's picture

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Maybe it'll straighten out.

I found it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iJM73amMDs

Real eyes realize real lies

We want our country back

Every year is a year for Ron Paul!

my link works just fine!

Alright its up fine now, should work without any problems