CAMPAIGN ADVISES WE STOP CALLING IOWA GOP!

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Wouldn't this be a conflict of interest? Is she going to resign her position with Story County?

Isn't it Story County that's providing these blackbox voting machines for the Iowa GOP Srtaw Poll....hummm. And what happens come primary time?

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THE JUDGE OF THE IOWA STRAW POLL WORKS FOR ROMNEY - GUESS WHO WILL WIN!!
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=107641

Posted By: RayelansMailbag
Date: Thursday, 9 August 2007, 7:00 p.m.
The judge of the Iowa Straw Poll is Mary who is on Mitt Romney's team! (See Bottom of Page)

Note from RMN: This appears to be a press release from Romney's team:

RPI: Voting At The Iowa Straw Poll: Fraud-Proof, Honest & Secure
8/8/2007

Contact: Mary Tiffany
(515)282-8105

The Republican Party of Iowa will host the Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, however, the voting procedure will be conducted with the assistance and oversight of the Story County Auditor's Office with assistance from the State Auditor's Office.

"Voting at the Iowa Straw Poll will follow procedures unique to this event," stated Chuck Laudner, Executive Director of the Republican Party of Iowa. "You will need to prove your Iowa residency during the credentialing process. This means you will need to display an Iowa driver's license, military ID, student ID, or other legitimate form of photo identification."

Only upon being successfully credentialed will the Straw Poll voter be given a paper ballot to cast their vote. An electronic scan of the photo ID will verify its authenticity and prevent multiple voting attempts. All Iowa residents who will be 18 years old on or before November 4, 2008, will be eligible to be credentialed and vote upon successful completion of that process.

Officials with the Republican Party of Iowa believe all official elections in Iowa should require every voter show a photo ID to vote. "It is unacceptable to engage in a voting process open to fraud," Laudner stated. "There should be no more important tenant in any election than one person, one vote." He went on to say only liberals oppose requiring showing a photo ID before voting. "Intentional fraud and illegal voting can mean the difference between victory and defeat in many elections," he said. "The steps we are requiring before ballots are cast at the Straw Poll are the minimum we believe should be used in each election in this state."

Voters at the Straw Poll will dip their thumb in purple ink to indicate they have cast their ballot. "We recognize the great privilege of voting by tipping our hat to the Iraqi people who cast their first votes in a free and democratic election," Laudner explained. "Iowans will be just as proud to display their inked thumb as the newly liberated Iraqi people were."

RMN Comment: Lets hope that purple ink isn't from China or has been laced with toxins!

Voting begins at 10:00 a.m. and continues until 6:00 p.m. when the voting areas are shut down. Voting machines provided by the Story County Auditor will be used. These are the same machines used for every official election held in Story County. The machines will be positioned on the concourse level of Hilton Coliseum, Scheman Building, and CY Stephens auditorium. Votes will be tallied by the State Auditor's Office and results will be announced by emcee.

Now take a look at who the chief auditor is:

Mary Mosiman
http://www.storycounty.com/index.aspx?DN=50,6,1,Documents%3C...

Mary Mosimon

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Story_County_L...
http://forum.myspace.com/%E2%80%9Dhttp://www.mittromney.com/...

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All the above links have disappeared. Very strange.

Apparently, the press release was on the Romney site at one time, because the link is on Google when a search is done on Mary Mosimon and Mitt Romney.

Romney For President Announces Story County Leadership TeamOn

April 13, Romney for President announced its Story County Leadership Team, ... Mary Mosiman Is Serving Her Second Term As Story County Auditor And ...
www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Story_County_Leadersh... - 126k - Cached - Similar pages

Oh come on.... This is a discussion forum. Nobody is calling for radicalism here! This one discussion line is hardly going to effect Ron Pauls campaign - Due to the uproar (hey did I hear anyone protesting about our outrage at the Iowan Debates??) WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED... We stood up like our forefathers and said We Are Not Going To Take It Anymore (i.e. poll rigging) and now things will be watched like a hawk!! Ron Paul got more News Media that hinted he is being descriminated against (which he is) and the GOP will not be able to pull any dirty tricks.

To the person who seems to want to DICTATE to the dozen or so posters on this one little itty bitty discussion board - I would like to remind you that Ron Paul himself made the comment that if there WERE any issues about the polling not being correct THEN THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED! so even though Ron Pauls campaign said make no more waves (which I havent), I say again they were secretly titillated that their concerns were now out in the open for public awareness!

I would like to say also that this *is* a revolution! Ron Paul *is* fighting for the constitution within a party that no longer has any regard for the constitution. Ron Paul votes consistently against the Republican Party and *is* considered a maverick! Yes I AGREE HE IS THE TRUE REPUBLICAN in this primary, but he *is* also an admitted Libetarian!

I say again that even if he wins, the GOP will spin the issue that he stacked the election. They will never support him and they WOULD slash him from the election process IF THEY COULD. And we will still be radical fringe supporters no matter what we do - so in essence I am simply saying THERE WAS NO HARM DONE AND THIS ISSUE IS MUTE AT THIS POINT.

There may come a time when once again a PUBLIC UPROARE/CRY will be necessary - Ron Paul's campaign will disavow any backing of this uproar but I still think that HE WILL BE APPRECIATIVE if the uproar will help him. There are more primaries, more straw votes, more other opportunities for the GOP to stand in his way and we may need to be vocal again and Ron Paul may need to keep quiet and let his supporters speak for him!

p.s. I noticed in the third debate that even CONGRESSMAN Ron Paul got a little snippy with Romney for trying to interrupt him - 5 minutes of debate for Ron Paul VS 30 for Romney and Romney still wanted to poke his nose in Ron Pauls answer! Also isnt it great that Romney got caught with his pants down with that STUPID STUPID STATEMENT about his kids are doing their American thing by working in his candidacy promoting his Dad for president vs enlisting. He should have just kept his mouth shut after saying "it is their choice wether to inlist or not, not mine! and they choose not to, its a free country" but instead he goes off into the stupid statement about how patriotic they are working for their dad to get elected President - Now that goes to show how great a president Romney would be... DUH DUH DUH

Think I'm just paranoid or lying? Take a look at this. This blogger is calling for people to harass the Ohio GOP offices because they excluded Ron Paul from their website. They do not have ANY candidates listed on their website. That is NOT what the GOP party is for. They will endorse the one that wins the nomination. That's it.

So, not only is this person calling for a campaign of harassment, they have just recently opened up shop and posted several extremely racist articles. The obvious intent is to link Ron Paul's supporters to racist thugs.
You can tell it is a plant because they are trying to impersonate a typical Ron Paul supporter (as if there is one) but it is so obvious.

http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/08/alert-received-this-i...

Stop being guilable, please. I suggest we flag this blog as objectionable, but that is up to your conscience.

I think it has become obvious that we have plants within the grassroots efforts from rival campaigns, anarchists, truthers, and other people with an agenda that DOES NOT INCLUDE HELPING RON PAUL GET ELECTED. They have obviously found a way to abuse the enthusiasm and energy of Dr. Paul's supporters against it.

It is clear that ANYONE opposing the wishes of the campaign are seeking to destroy the campaign. You want to know who the plants are? Look at those arguing against the advice of the campaign.

Why is the GOP important? Because they can kick Ron Paul off the republican ticket. They can remove him from every ballot, so no one can vote for him in any primaries and any straw polls. Ron Paul has said he will NOT run as an independent. So when this happens, it's over and you morons that are doing this crap can move on to something else.

The two parties have complete control over who runs in their parties. The fact that they have NOT excluded Ron Paul from running should show anyone with an ounce of common sense that they DO NOT HATE RON PAUL!!! The GOP is NOT AGAINST RON PAUL!!! But they will if you all continue. Get it through your heads people!

If you are naive enough to follow these troublemakers' advice, then you will end up being to blame when this all comes crashing down.

Doesn't it make sense that people can see how much momentum the campaign has gained in Iowa? Doesn't it seem odd that suddenly these abusive suggestions are popping up that are underimining efforts there?

This is a political campaign. Hey, you don't like how the campaign addresses you when you are interfering, go support someone else (or rather 'ruin' THEIR campaign.)

In case you people didn't notice, since Ron Paul is running as a republican and you support him, you ARE a republican. Just what do you think Ron Paul is? If you HATE the GOP with a passion, why do you support Ron Paul? His platform IS the republican platform. You HATE Bush? Well, join the club. You will have to get behind millions of REPUBLICANS that hate GWB, too.

Alienate the GOP and you have lost this election, I can promise you. The plants know this and are advising you in ways to do it. Don't be so stupid.

Hi,

Without getting into the main issue here, I'd just like to point out that having simple ballots, marked on paper, is not hard, not complicated and uncontroversial. I work in IT, but sometimes the low tech solution is the best.

We've run our federal, provincial and municipal elections this way for my entire life and my parents' lives and probably going back 100 years.

When we have an election, let's say a federal one, you show up at the polling station and show your id. They find your name on a list and cross you out. (If for some reason you weren't already registered or they can't find your name, you can sign up on the spot.)

You are then given a ballot and a pencil and you are directed to a private booth. The ballot has a list of all the candidates and their party affiliations. You mark a simple X for the candidate you want. You then fold up the ballot, come out of the booth and put it through a slot into an official ballot box.

Somehow we manage to do this across the entire country, with all unpaid volunteers working at all the stations across the country and yet we still get results on the evening news quickly and usually have a final winner within a couple hours.

How does technology help? This is a simple, proven, and reliable method. Many other countries follow similar procedures. I would strongly recommend this for the US as well.

Thanks.

Refusal to work together is what killed the Reform Party and has made the Libertarian Party nothing but a debating society. Do you want to hurt Ron Paul's candidacy by following in those footsteps or do you want him to be President? If the campaign deems harrassment does not serve the purpose of the campaign, they ought to be given the benefit of the doubt. After all, it's Ron who is running and not us.

"If you understand hallucination and illusion, you don't blindly follow any leader." Marguerite Young

Several Points I would like to make:

“Thin Skin”
1) “Thin skin” has nothing to do with my response to Jeff Frazee. I am too old and too experienced to blindly accept what campaign staff say. That is not thin skin - that is wisdom. Having had top position in many campaigns, I know that candidates themselves are usually unaware of the mechanics of the campaign and often what their staff is advising people. However, if Ron did tell us to stop – believe me – it would not be in that tone of voice and he probably wouldn’t be happy that one of his staff was less than gracious about it.

I also know that campaign staff who are trained in campaign management schools realize that volunteers are the gold in the campaign and they as paid staff are there to coordinate and SUPPORT volunteers. Good top level staff will have a kitchen cabinet of volunteers to sound things out with and listen closely to seasoned advice.

Following are three good examples of why I won’t blindly follow dictums by campaign staff regardless of what they say. That doesn't mean I won't listen and consider - just that none of us can affort to blindly follow. Yes, we all want to cooperate but I for one am not going to do something that is exactly opposite of what I know to be proven and right because a staff person has stated strongly that is what I should do.

Get out the Vote Efforts:
1) Campaign staff say that volunteers can get the word about voting and get people to the polling place but if those votes aren’t counted accurately it won’t make any difference.

Stop Putting Pressure on the Establishment
2) Campaign staff are going to negotiate with the GOP and will count on them to be fair to Dr. Paul. Very Naïve. I have been ED of as association which played a major role in voting equipment testing and I know many of the pitfalls. I have also designed and implemented two state wide ballot security campaigns for Presidential candidates. The party structure IS not going to be fair for fairness sake.

Pressure and exposure is the only vehicle people have to insure that their vote will count. I believe an accusation of “paranoid” is far preferable to not getting credit for the votes that were actually cast for Ron.

Counting Paper Ballots
1) Campaign staff says they are counting on the good faith of the GOP in the counting room if a paper recount is done - seems pretty naive to me. There are many problems with paper ballots. They are certainly better than anything electronic in my opinion, but if we are fortunate enough to get a backup, volunteers need to be trained in paper vote fraud techniques. For instance, in one state, if there are any extraneous marks on a ballot, that ballot is disqualified. Get a dishonest counter with a pencil lead under his/her thumb nail and you would be surprised how many ballots can be disqualified without anyone noticing. Again, they are better than electronic alternatives IF poll watchers in the counting station know what to look for.

Also check out the interview [video.google.com] with the Director of communications for the Ron Paul Campaign, Jesse Benton by Dale Williams from KTKK Salt Lake City.

He discusses the Diebold situation, here's what he had to say:

There will be a paper backup system. There is a very high price associated with doing a paper recount and we've been talking to the Iowa GOP, if we or any other campaign has a serious problem with the outcome of this election then we can go ahead and pay ourselves for a paper recount to be done on Monday. At this point the Ron Paul campaign will not be doing it, we believe in the good faith of the Iowa GOP.

And concerning volunteers doing exit polling:

We do not support that at all. We are disassociating ourselves with anybody that is going to be doing this kind of exit polling. We think that is a little bit invasive to the good people of Iowa that just want and casually cast their vote for whatever candidate they choose. Then to be confronted afterwards by people that are demanding that you take pictures or sign affidavits. We think that that would really be a disservice to anybody that wants to actually back Dr. Paul or another candidate. I think it would tend to drive away voters, I think Iowans are very humble, very quiet people and they want to be left alone. I don't think they want people coming up and harassing them.

Isn't it strange that the Iowa GOP would use these Diebold machines when "everyone" knows they are so easily prone to tampering? And why go with machines in the first place? It would take a team of volunteers from all candidates' camps a few hours to count the ballots and ensure fair results.
It is everyone's right and DUTY to question the Iowa GOP on these issues. It doesn't matter which candidate you back. If and when you call, don't mention you're in support of Ron Paul - just a concerned citizen that wants verifiable results in this poll.
Remember, Ron Paul said it himself - "We ARE the campaign"