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Peter Schiff says he might support attacking Iran
Submitted by rjforpaul on Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:09
Says he might have gone after weapons of mass destruction in Iraq too. Wants more limited military operations, though. |
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Schiff isn't running for
Schiff isn't running for office so I don't have a great problem with this. He is a valuable ally for us. On the other hand, if he was running for office, he'd have a lot of splaining to do.
He was running for office in
He was running for office in 2009 when he said this.
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Ron Paul's Non-interventionism is *NOT* isolationism. This article is about why friendship and detente is the best policy (morally and pragmatically) in foreign affairs, esp. with Iran.
http://www.blazingtruth.com/foreign-policy
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I see this was back in December.
I've been listening carefully to Schiff, and he had little to say on foreign policy, then he was vague; in the recent Yale series, Part seven, that was on the front page, he seems to have thought through the issues more clearly (beyond his forte' in finance) and to my ear comes down pretty solidly anti war. Check out that recent video and see what you think.
He's not Ron Paul, but he seems to be coming along fast. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pb8bJJ29lw
That is not really an honest thread title
He put several "ifs" on there, including "If we really believe that..." and "If they refuse inspections," and I would bet a genuine FRN that he knows that Iran is not refusing inspections, he certainly left room for the possibility that HE does not even believe that.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
I support Peter Schiff
'nuff said.
If iran did attack us we would be justified
we know iran will not do that.
I interpreted Schiff's
I interpreted Schiff's position to be more along the line of "If we have credible evidence the Iranian government has nukes", taking into consideration the same government's history of "death to America" chants; and that government won't let us inspect to verify that they do not in fact have nukes, we should, as a precaution "just blow them up." I'm assuming blowing them up means using sufficient force to ensure they do no longer have nukes when we are done.
For one, he may need to tone down his belligerence just a bit. Nonchalantly saying "Just blow them up" about a country of tens of millions, may come back to hurt him. Another issue is, how will he know Iran has nukes? The CIA claimed Iraq had stockpiles of WMDs, hence all that credible anymore. However, for some inexplicable reason, it does seem like a sizeable number of GOP primary voters, somehow have much more faith in pronouncements made by tax feeders working for the CIA, than tax feeders working for other departments. Schiff may just realize he can't afford alienating that block entirely in a GOP primary. Same may well go for Rand.
Regardless, I have rarely had the pleasure of listening to a politician on the stump with better grasp of the economic choices our country faces than Schiff did in this video. And I don't even agree with all his views ( particularly, I think China is a communist country, and like all communists everywhere and always, are pretty much misallocating whatever capital they get their hands on. Their economy only seem relatively impressive, because the rest of the world has gone commie as well. When TSHTF, and the West can no longer afford buying lead painted chew toys by the container load, the Chinese will be just as screwed as we are, having worked their asses off for years, having no more to show for it than a pile of treasury bonds the West will default on anyway. Nothing good ever comes from being born and stuck in a communist country.) And unlike many with a good grasp of theory, Schiff is good at communicating his points as well, in terms that resonates with non economics geeks. As long as "the economy" remains on the front burner in this election cycle, his opponents won't have an easy time convincing voters to trust them over him.
Peter is great !
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/Mike
Front Fell Off
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"Just blow the place up"? Not sure if that is good criteria.
You don't just attack countries because they won't let your inspectors in. I agree with Schiff on monetary policy but this is over the line. kids that are being drafted to expand the empire are killing themselves when they wake up to their true reality, and the numbers are rising. Anybody who would even say that is wrong. But i'd still take him over dodd or anybody else. God forbid
The role of a farmer, in Fukuoka's mind, is an observer, not an intervener, of the natural order in his/her particular landscape. How is that any different than Hayek in regards to Economics?
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has just alit this thorny bush.
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whoa!
nice post.
nice list.
people who are 'libertarian' and respect Ron Paul . . .
come in so many ideological 'shapes and sizes'--
I have relatives who receive food stamps (NOT my nuclear family)--
and I wish they didn't, but I'm more glad they aren't in the military--
we all have our priorities.
I hate 'welfare'; I don't use it, but I can't even begin to come close to being as concerned about 'investments' or sound money as I am about not being involved in war--
For those who are more concerned about sound money than no war--
then . . . this might be all right--
I never 'understood' Schiff, because frankly I live within my means and am in the lower income bracket--
but I shudder over the concept of someone believing in pre-emptive war--
this 'shape and size' is anti-war--
another 'shape and size' is sound money--
would be nice if we could have 'it all', but it doesn't appear to be that way--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Well, they shouldn't
Well, they shouldn't. Libertarianisn is not a complex or vague philosophy (like progessivism or conservatism). It has one damn principle--liberty. So if these people had really done their homework there wouldn't be all these sizes and shapes...
wow . . .
*stunned*
LOL!
Liberty encourages individualism, correct?
Then, 'shapes and sizes'--
I find it hard to see what isn't being 'gotten' here.
Not one religion, not one profession, not one way to do everything--
no robots--
but individuals, i.e., 'shapes and sizes'--
Why is that hard to understand.
If I believe that by 'supporting' liberty I am signing my name to becoming a clone--
good grief . . .
what a silly discussion--
why did I say anything in the first place?
Yes, there are wealthy people on here, I am guessing. There are also poor people. (I am one)
We all need liberty. I am not taking the taxes of the wealthy to survive, though I do know people who are--
but the taxes of the wealthy also supportive militarism--
if I am blatantly and openly against militarism--
whereas someone else winks at it--
(because *they* think Peter Schiff's financial sense is more important than his foreign policies)--
then I suppose I can expect no blame for not censuring the people *I* know (who are not in my home) who use food stamps while also working very hard and not being involved in killing innocent people--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Do you feel "onry" today, haahahha.
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New video coming soon with Peter admiting he supports preemptive
Soon there will be a new video posted of Peter Schiff admitting that he supports preemptive wars, and specifically that he would support a strike on Iran if it were to develop nuclear weapons.
It is a lengthy addition that leaves one with no uncertainty as to his beliefs.
Boris in Miami
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Could you please elaborate borisimo
Do you know of a video?
The article will be posted soon. Peter elaborates on his belief
The article will be posted soon. Peter elaborates on his beliefs for about ten minutes.
Boris in Miami
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Peter Schiff is tap dancing.
Peter Schiff is tap dancing. He is a money man... a wheeler and dealer.Perhaps we are expecting too much of him and his seeking a senate seat.
You know what, I am just
happy he is an ordinary man like Ron Paul and not a career politician hand picked by the banksters. He has spoken of bringing our troops home that puts him on support side. I think he would be very hard to convince to go to war with a bankrupt nation. He knows all to well how corrupt the government is that is another plus.
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So did Obama make such promises
Watch this video closely. You can see he is a phoney. Anyway, he endorses murder, invasion, and bombing: without Congressional authorization. 'If they won't let us in, bomb em.'
"If they had weapons of mass destruction," got get em. What about Israel and the Dancing Israelis with the detonator charges on 9-11? What a cheap warmonger.
War Is A Racket
agree with below ... excellent book and he needs to read ... here is potential of another who is well versed on economy but most likely will cave in from a non interventionist position - wouldn't vote for anyone who is not
and watch this too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qebmfFx6Zpw&feature=player_em...
"...if they had weapons of mass destruction..."
He knows that they didn't have weapons of mass destruction so he thinks that the whole question is counter-factual and irrelevant.
That shows political naivety. He needs to read "War Is A Racket". What if he was President and had "good intelligence" about an attack? What then?
He's very well prepared for economic questions, but I'm guessing that he has been totally blind-sided by the reaction to his foreign policy statements.
Its ironic that he'll draw more flack from Ron Paul supporters than anyone else!
Peter Schiff does not want the US to attack Iran!
I posted my email to the Schiff Campaign first and then the response:
I have always enjoyed your articles, youtube videos, and especially the most recent debate with Daniel Epstein. I have donated a few small amounts to your campaign, however, I was taken back by your comments on Iran. I don't know if you misspoke or what, but you have lots of angry followers. Check out this link and read some of the comments: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/119119#comment-1284738 Many of these people have donated sums of money on numerous occasions during the money bombs. Many of us have been hardcore fans throughout Ron Paul's 2008 bid, and have religiously watched every speech and vlog. Personally, I was excited that a 'liberty' candidate had a chance of winning in a liberal east coast state. As a college student I was planning on flying out to CT during my upcoming winter break or this coming summer to campaign for you. If you mean what you say about Iran, I will still support you but not in ways previously. I can guarantee money will stop flowing via money bombs. I beg you to either add an issues page on your website or make a statement in your next vlog about Iran.
RESPONSE FROM SCHIFF:
Thank you for taking the time to write in. We understand you have concern about whether Peter Schiff would be an extension of the previous and current administration’s policies, and be assured, that he would not.
We will be updating the web site in upcoming weeks with more issues announcements that will hopefully help citizens like yourself better understand Peter’s position on such difficult subjects.
Thanks again for writing in and your interest.
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Peter Schiff for U.S. Senate
Phone: 203-874-6880
Fax: 203-874-6883
email: info@schiffforsenate.com
Still waiting for Schiff the weasel
I sent the Schiff campaign a similar email inquiring about this video at about the same time in January -- they didn't reply to me at all. And as of Feb. 8th, the Schiff website still has NOTHING about foreign policy. Schiff makes a lot of economic sense, but he's looking like a neocon on foreign policy. Correction: like a weaselly, cowardly neocon, deathly afraid that if his supporters find out what he really thinks, they'll stop supporting him.
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I hope that Schiff gets elected, but there is video that...
I hope that Schiff gets elected, but there is a new video that... will pretty much put in doubt his knowledge of constitutional, or shall we say moral foreign policy.
He still needs lots of schooling.
Boris in Miami
"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2
Well, lets hope they update
Well, lets hope they update it soon! This is something we need to know if we are going to keep backing Schiff!
http://theconstitutionalists1.blogspot.com
In all honesty, I understand
In all honesty, I understand and heard what he said loud and clear. However, with all Schiff has said over the years in regards to foreign policy do you think this could actually be his position? I really don't think it goes both ways. Can you agree that preemptive war with Iraq is bad but preemptive war with Iran is good. I really don't think Schiff would go there.
Boy...I thought Rand was hard-up for votes, but this takes it.
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