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Christ-mas is only for Christ-ians?

Okay, so who's sick and tired of hearing about all the political correctness/incorrectness of saying 'Happy Holidays' as opposed to 'Merry Christmas'? I'm sick of hearing about it, but it got me thinking about the meaning of Christmas. It seems that many people in the US of A, Chrisitians and non-Christians alike, celebrate Christmas. Do you think that Christmas is a holiday for all or is it just a holiday for Christians? Do you have to believe in Christ to have the 'Spirit of Christmas'?

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From what I hear from

bible historians, scholars, and theologins. Jesus was born in September.
Christmas is what people make it in there hearts and minds. I love halloween, but it doesn't mean I'm in to the supposed historical driud stuff it is supposed to have started from.

Here is a great video

This explains the roots of Christmas. The part I found to be most interesting is that the first ever police force in the US was founded to maintain order because of Christian debauchery during Christmas. It was celebrated with drinking, dancing and sex. Christmas celebrations were illegal in the US until the mid to late 1800s.

Enjoy the video! http://suppressedminds.com/christmas-pagan-holidays-exposed

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There is no scriptural provision for Christmas

Pope Julius I created the "birth" of YVH to disrupt the pagan's winter solstice in the 4th century. It was never a Christian holiday to begin with and is currently a pagan holiday as evidenced by the various customs and usages of today.

There is a little part about Christmas trees though

"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." Jeremiah 10:2-5

Jesus probably hates you for

celebrating christmas.

Christmas as we know it today is based off of many different traditions. The main celebration part came from the Romans where they would get drunk, exchange presents, and have sex with each other. This practice was eventually banned by the Catholic church.

Seriously, the holiday is all about depravity (not nescessarily a bad thing).

I don't know about hate, maybe feel sorry for


"Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall be called the children of God." - Matthew 5:9

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Christmas is obviously a

Christmas is obviously a Christian celebration, but anyone who cares to participate in it is welcome to do so. And anyone who does not is not obligated to do so. This is what Freedom means. It is the Criminal Element, the promoters of hatred that try to portray religious celebrations as somehow offensive to those who belong to other faiths, or have none. This is nonsense!

In a free society, we need to respect each others beliefs. We can't worry about practicing our beliefs lest we offend someone else. That's what Political Correctness is all about. It is an attempt to intimidate people into refraining from anything that offends our would be rulers. Well I certainly don't care if I offend them. They work for me.

Do you think a Christian should be offended if a Jew wished them a Happy Hanukkah? Or if a Muslim wished them a happy Eid? Then why would either of them be offended if they were greeted with "Merry Christmas"?

The real perpetrators of Political Correctness, and the real promoters of hatred are our politicians and their lap dogs in mainstream media.

It depends...

If you believe that "Christ" is the Son of God, you would more than likely celebrate this period, if not, you can celebrate it because you like to give presents, and want some holiday time as well. Either way, it is a way to celebrate something.

Do all dogs go to heaven?

-God if I know. What I do know is that people thrive on the love and interactions we share with the people around us and christmas is just another vehicle for us to enjoy those things. It doesn't matter what the holiday is really, if we, as people, are able to love and laugh together, we'll do it. Look at all of the Cinco de Mayo, St. Patrick’s day, and any other celebration in the year that people celebrate, just for the fun of it. And the fact of the matter is that, any other holiday has the potential to become politicized too. The talking heads that have to write the news just don't get as much play out of the other holidays as they do with christmas. It’s another one of those topics that can be used to control people through their emotional reactions whether it’s to get people incensed to listen or watch the station a bit longer or to go buy more gifts to celebrate "the birth”. Like anything and everything, it is whatever we make it out to be. So why not let it be a good thing we can all share.

Actually since "Holidays"

Actually since "Holidays" ----> "HOLY DAYS", wishing somebody "happy holidays" could be construed as offensive to the non-religious.

Personally I wouldn't be offended if somebody wished me a happy Ramadan if I was visiting Saudi Arabia in November. So I don't get why people think you can't wish someone a Merry Christmas esp. since polls consistently show 95% of Americans Celebrate Christmas.

I say, live by the golden rule. If you would be offended if someone wished you a "happy insert-holiday-you-don't celebrate" than don't go wishing strangers Merry Christmas. Otherwise proceed as normal.

Happy Holidays!

I'm sick an tired of hearing the pro-Christmas crowd bitch and moan about how their holiday is being ruined by atheists and liberals. Wishing a person happy holidays (because there are quite a few in December) is a reasonable thing to do if you do not specifically know what holidays they might celebrate.

Christmas is two holidays, really. There's the one with the son of God being born, and the other with the trees and lights and gifts. Everyone I know, regardless of their faith, celebrates the latter to some degree.

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Having always celebrated Christmas, but having become a.....

....Christian several years ago, it is good for everyone to take at least one day a year and give thanks for this wondrous thing we call life. It is not about religion, but about appreciation for existence. There are more similarities than differences between the major religions, it is just that people tend to highlight the differences in order to promote a feeling of superiority of one religion over another.It does not matter what day or how much time or what someone wants to call it, just taking the opportunity to show some humility and gratefullness before whatever gave existence is a GOOD thing to do.

Agnostic who celebrates Christmas (not "The Holidays")

I am a religious skeptic but I still like Christmas. And the best Christmas songs are not "Jingle Bell Rock" or "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" but the carols that sing about the birth of Jesus ("Hark the Herald Angels Sing", "Silent Night", "Coventry Carol", and many, many others). So Christmas is a Christian religious holiday but most of the rest of us go along for the ride.

Glad to know I'm not the only one...

I think it is wonderful that everyone (Christians and non-Christians alike) can participate in the Spirit of Christmas, i.e., the values and Spirit of Jesus--->compassion, sharing, serving, loving, peace, and justice.

I agree about the songs

I'm not at all religious, but Silent Night is a really nice tune.

and you are welcome to come

and you are welcome to come along for the ride... Jesus turns no one away. All are welcome.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

The government wants it to be a holiday for all...

All consumers that is, Christian or not.

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Originally a Pagan Holiday

As many of the Christian traditions, beliefs, and holidays: Christmas was originally Pagan; as was already talked about below.

Quick note: the bringing in of a pine tree, ferns, holly’s, etc., are all based on the belief that these particular plants were magical because they would survive the cold winter months. Bringing them inside was sort of a superstition for having good luck during the winter. The process of hanging balls on them started when Christians took the holiday over and wanted to include judeo-christian practices into the holiday. Hence, they would hang apples on the tree to represent the apple from the tree of knowledge found in Genesis.

With all of the above, I'm an Agnostic and I love Christmas. Most Christians would probably agree that Christmas is not their most important holiday, as it is a well known fact that the actual birth date of Jesus is not truly known, anyway. It has also become very secular with Santa Claus, Frosty the Snowman, etc...

Throughout history persons have celebrated this time of year to help take their minds off the bitter cold that was awaiting them on the other side of the Winter Solstice. It is a beautiful time of year and brings us closer together during a time when we need each other most. Those who deny this and claim it for Christians only are no different than the Roman Empire who told the Pagans that their holiday was now a Christian holiday only.

"Every advance first comes into being as the luxury of a few rich people, only to become, after a time, the indispensable necessity taken for granted by everyone." Mises

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All for freedom? Freedom for all!

Free includes debt-free!

No! It's for Macy's and

No! It's for Macy's and Neiman Marcus.

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festivus for the rest of us!!


feats of strength!!!!

What is Christmas

Christ taught not to esteem one day above another ..Christmas is a day made for humanity by humanity, though the person & birth of Christ has been adopted to make a celibration..Christmas has become, over time, more than just a celebration to others & what has become, is not neccessarily at the christian establishments hands ..Esteem the day as you wish & let others do the same.. God's gift to the human remains the same, when the human accepts HIS gift.
There are many titles & names synonomous with "The Gift", but the biggest title to a human is ," Eternal Life",which means: Christ in YOU.
God loves a cheerfull giver..Therefore Christmas celibration is appropriate training.
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There is BIBLICAL evidence that Jesus was born around the Summertime, not Winter...

Christians must stop worshiping this selfish pagan holiday!

Jeremiah 10:2-4 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

wake up,
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee...

if the Christians in the US actually knew the words of Jesus Christ, and followed them we would not have the problems we have today.

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Yep...12/25 is a sun/astrological religion holiday

Depending on the shift of the calendar, the winter solstice occurs some time between December 21 and December 22 each year in the Northern Hemisphere.

That means Dec 22, 23, and 24 are the shortest days of the year. The Sun is metaphorically dead for three days. Then on Dec 25, the days start to lengthen again...the Sun rises.

The parallels to Jesus' dying and rising after three days are undeniable.

This shows you who really is in charge: the worshipers of the Sun...arguably desendents of the Pharohs, of the Age of Taurus.

The Age of Taurus was when the great pyramids took place.

In the Age of Aries, (monotheism/Judaism), it is argued that the Pharoh line went/fled north to eventually take command of Europeans and thus most of the industrialized world today...in the Age of Pises (monotheism/Christianity).

The whole cruxification of Jesus story is meant to put Christians and Jews at odds. When really it was Pharohs in Jew clothing (pharisies) who oppressed Jesus (Romans, clearly from the Pharoh line, obviously helped too). You see when Jesus 'went East', he learned from great spiritual gurus (outside the realm of the pharohs) and that is what he was teaching...which was, to the pharohs, coloring outside their lines.

The system of the Pharohs is one of focused power...unlike the systems before and after Taurus.

This explains why the sun religion so permeates everything in our culture. It explains why so many powerful people flash the *satan* hand sign (really the bull sign for Taurus).

It simply connects all the dots. The pharoh line *is* the NWO.

That's right.

Pagan traditions go waaaaay back.

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You can share this with Christians and non-christians alike...

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The Origins Of Christmas and it's traditions:

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Christmas IS only for Christians. I don't recognize Christ as a God or prophet so don't celebrate Christ('s)-mass, (Christmas.) Its a religious holiday, not a blanket seasonal all faith holiday. Its presumptuous at best to assume that all people enjoy being wished a Merry Christmas. To me, that's no different than wishing all Christians a Happy Yule or Happy Channukah. Its not appropriate and is disrespectful to those who celebrate other holidays this time of year.

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I don't mind what you call it, the traditions are the same.

Christmas, Xmas, Festive Season, Holiday Season, Winter Solstice, etc.

I'll just give presents, send cards and eat "festive food" regardless.

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