A New Economic Order and Climate Change

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Many people believe that the earth and its' species are at risk of extinction from our current economic order. Ron Paul argues for a new economic order. Do you think that a world shift from Keynesian Economics to Austrian economics would bring about monumental changes to improve human and other planetary life in the next generations? The current economic model is based on unlimited desire by humans that strips the world of its precious resources, pollutes its waters, devastates its rain forests, and causes mass plant and animal extinctions. Would the economic model that Ron Paul puts forth create a just and sustainable economy that would address the problems mentioned above?

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Just his peaceful foreign policy alone

would turn around much of the pollution, waste, and destruction of life. The US military is the biggest consumer of oil and many resources, the biggest polluter by far, and totally uncountable for nuclear toxicity and other terrible effects of the aggressive military empire.

Then his overall economic policy would definitely turn things around by promoting localism instead of one-size fits all centralized mandates. RP's approach is very much in line with the concepts of permaculture and power in the hands of the people instead of a remote elite.

His monetary ideas of competing currencies also would encourage people to be personally responsible and select the most efficient trade, barter, currencies etc. rather than the current model of spending to try to keep ahead of inflation of the monopoly fiat currency.

To begin with, we are not at

To begin with, we are not at risk of extinction. "Global Warming/Global Climate Change/the New Ice Age, Green House Gasses, the Hole in the Ozone Layer, and the rest of these imaginary catastrophes are just ploys to justify further usurpations of power by our Criminal Class - our politicians.

Now that I've cleared that up, let's move on to economics. A return to honest money, which means gold and silver would go a long way towards bringing about stable economies. You can't build a skyscraper on sand, and you can't have a stable economy based on fiat money. The only reason for fiat money is to enable the Criminal Class to steal wealth.

Hundreds of years ago, criminal politicians adulterated the coinage by using less and less precious metals in their coins. Today, they don't even bother with precious metals. They have the people dumbed down to the point that they just accept non-redeemable paper and think it is money.

What we have today is a product of the last hundred years. For thousands of years, the people around the world have used gold and silver as money. Today, most people have no understanding of money, and for that lack of knowledge, they have been, and continue to be, swindled.

If you look at our entire

If you look at our entire planet and all of its life as one organism, I would almost guarantee that the "organism" would operate at its prime levels only when people live in a voluntary society.

Once the government-created monopolies are dismantled and people are free to choose every aspect of their lives, our entire "organism" will operate the way it was originally intended to operate.

It wouldn't be perfect but I think it would be the best it could ever be.

Thankfully, I believe we're now at the very beginning of this freedom era and the Ron Paul R3VOLUTION was the catalyst!

It's easy to think that a free market

will consume everything. But just the opposite happens. When people are prosperous as a result of choosing their own path, they have money to support things like land purchases to put in public ownership or in trust for things like parks. They don't consume everything because to do so would be to leave a worse life for their kids. When the state owns or controls everything, it all decays and dies. Just look at what happened in the Soviet Union. The state owned everything and it all became a dull shade of gray, from the paint on the tenaments to the vodka soaked livers.

If a free people want to preserve something, it will be preserved. If they instead rely on the government to preserve it, it will decay as the administrators spend more and more of the funds to try to decide what is best. Serfs never save the Tigers.

Our fractional reserve banking system has turned a free market into a corporatist/fascist growth monster that consumes all resources in an exponential as opposed to a linear fashion. We have to because that's the only way, other than working, that we can get the resources to pay for the debt that the banks create. There is not enough money to pay the debts so we have to bust our asses and dig up more stuff out of the ground to pay it back. That's why there are two people working in most families, using twice as much gas and fast food wrappers as they need to.

That's why we need to end the Fed. Want to save a rain forest - shackle a wall street banker!

" Many people believe"

Many people are idiot sheeple that listen to the MSM, Socialist enviormentalists, and the one world government crowd.
Capitalism with a FREE market and private property ownership will be better for a just and sustainable economy.
Hubris despotic rulers with their wars and "regulations" have not served the planet or the people well.

" The force of a correction is equal and opposite to the deception that proceded it"
B. Bonner

"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs

An Important factor...

..is what people would buy if we had a truly free market, and how much they would spend if we had sound money.

One thing I've learned since I started buying silver is that it satisfies the need to have some sort of physical representation of ones labor. I believe that the reason people spend so wantonly is because having digits on a screen or a bunch of paper does nothing to show that one is making some sort of progress. When all ones income is siphoned off by the Government and the rest is funneled into banks it's even more difficult to feel comfortable or satisfied.

We're basically required to leave all our "labor representations" in the hands of others, and under the influence of others. Those that influence and control these representations charge you for the privilege, debase or scheme off of your paper/digits, and leave you holding the bag if it comes to that.

To me, this inspires the spend now on something "real" mentality.

There's also the fact that sound money would increase in value if it was saved, thus encouraging savings.

Obviously this wouldn't have an effect on everyone, but if we had a free market we'd at least be able to invest in the products and services we believe in. As it is, so many alternatives deemed necessary or effective to curb pollution and waste are inhibited by regulation, taxation, or law. Alternative energies have been overly regulated since we began discussing them decades ago, but we've had quite a few oil based wars in that time. What if we'd spent that time researching alternatives and perfecting them through market-based competition?

It's my belief that the reason we've made the push to inhibit growth in alternatives is because oil was very profitable and gave those who controlled oil control over the populace. Perhaps also because if alternatives were readily available we'd have an easier time rejecting Cap/Trade and the Copenhagen Treaty. We'd be well on our way out of any woods we're supposedly in if we'd taken the hint back in the 70's.

If we could all become self-sufficient we'd need no middleman in our lives. That would alter our course all by itself (especially after this economic mess.)

This doesn't necessarily mean that we'll all become farmers, but that we'd take steps to provide our own energy, which would alleviate a huge and often unpredictable burden within our lives.

There are countries around the world that have easy-to-construct and energy efficient housing, but those technologies are illegal here. The Think and Reva electric cars are also illegal here, while we're producing hybrids and electric sports cars and SUV's, and experimenting with typically monstrous American townhouses with solar/wind power. Very little is offered that scales down the McMansion lifestyle, and I believe this isn't because there would be no demand for an alternative, but precisely because there would be a demand. Simpler, easy-to-build homes mean low (or no) mortgages. Low (or no) energy costs means less dependence on those who control and tax energy.

If I could own land without any Government claims upon it (no property tax or imminent domain impositions), keep it simple and energy efficient, have an electric car with a solar garage, and a little greenhouse, I'd have very little need to work. If I was paid for my labor in Gold/Silver I'd know that as the economy grows, so would the value of my savings.

I could go about my day without interference from anyone and live my life in relative comfort.

If people have choices. they'll choose the most sensible option. Without choices they're forced to select from what they've been offered, at the price at which it's offered, and with all the strings/implications/repercussions that go along with it. In that circumstance they're also never truly satisfied and they'll likely die in debt, which means everything they've worked for is claimed by those who bought it on their behalf at an elevated price.

A debt-based economy with fiat currency is for suckers. It severely stunts all aspects of growth, and it strips away the wealth of the people (except the wealth of those who control the currency, impose regulations, and force compliance upon everyone but themselves - this is happening before our very eyes...)

I'd prefer to give people a chance and let the free market determine the growth of society and the progress of the human race, rather than leave our progress to those who benefit by keeping our options limited, making sure we're beholden to them, and placing us under their thumb.

There's also a sense of separation between us all because of Government intervention.

When our money is taken from us to give to another, we begin to view them as "other" and blame them for our financial woes. We often choose to blame this "other" rather than blame those who placed us on different sides of an economic equation. If we made the choice to assist each other of our own free will we'd make a connection with those within our society. We'd feel good about ourselves and our neighbors, and we'd build a sense of community.

We'd be able to choose in what ways we could assist and when to do so, and the Government wouldn't skim off the top along the way. We'd probably also elect better representatives if the issues weren't always so muddled with superficially induced competitiveness and pointless distractions.

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Very well said !

You hit the nail on the head !

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Thanks Husker and True

All I really want is the ability to live without obstruction. Many of us would be perfectly content to live a simple, peaceful, and harmonious life.

As it is we're living in a Government/Bankster/Corporatist pinball machine and they're taking our quarters to keep us in play...

Yes

I do.

If we chose to use business models of focused on

creating scarcity instead of abundance we are ultimately doomed in the long run.

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

world leaders meet in Copenhagen

I wonder what action will come from the talks in Copenhagen on climate change.

Depends-

do you really think we have:

unlimited desire by humans that strips the world of its precious resources, pollutes its waters, devastates its rain forests, and causes mass plant and animal extinctions.

A truly free-market will value these things. If they're important (which they obviously are), they'll survive. If they're not, they won't.

Think? Try.

Will a change in the economic order

create a paradigm shift in humans where these things are valued more?