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Avatar & Invictus: Glorifying communism and a communist

Avatar & Invictus: Glorifying communism and a communist

By: Devvy
December 16, 2009

Millions of Americans go to the box office during the Christmas holiday season. This year, it is expected herds will go see James Cameron's Avatar and Clint Eastwood's Invictus. Not me. I haven't been the movie theater since I saw Pirates of the Carribean (3) back in 2007. Very disappointing as was installment number two. You see, as I wrote many years ago in a column: I don't like what Hollywood sells and so I don't put money in their pocket because I don't 'need' what they call entertainment.

Also, as a personal preference, I don't like all these electronic movies where the art of acting has been lost. Yes, I loved the first three Star Wars. Yes, the first few Star Treks were pretty good, but in the past 20 years, it seems like everything is all special effects. I suppose it's my age. I consider fine films to be "old" ones with talented stars like Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Burt Lancaster, Steve McQueen, Gregory Peck, Charleton Heston, John Wayne, Glenn Ford, Maureen O'Hara, Angela Lansbury, Ingrid Bergman and so many others. They had to act. Today it's strip off your clothes, jump in bed or state of the art gagetry. But, I stray from my point about Avatar and Invictus.

I have not seen Avatar nor will I, but I have read quite a bit about it. Ted Baeher is an excellent movie critic and has written a powerful statement as to the dangerous message contained in that film: 'Avatar': Pagan, communist, anti-American, insane

"If you think this sounds as if Al Gore wrote the script for "Avatar," not James Cameron, you may be right. This theme of kill all the humans, especially the pro-American, capitalist humans, has long been an underlying message of the left-wing, environmentalist movement, beginning with Rachel Carson's hysterical plea to ban DDT, even though, to this day, there is no evidence that DDT is harmful to humans or the environment, and even though the use of DDT can save millions of human lives from the deadly disease of malaria

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Offering reviews without even seeing the movie in question.

Kinda like a virgin describing sex.

So what?

Who cares what Devvy thinks about two movies she's never seen?

I've seen Avatar, and it's a great movie with a strong defense of property rights and a fine condemnation of the military-industrial complex, which should not be confused with free enterprise.

If you'd like to read three reviews of Avatar written by people who HAVE seen the movie,

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

I saw "The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus" this week

It's in limited release.

It took some pot-shots at overblown charitable events, the idea of political correctness was used as a money-maker while also being absent in fact; freedom was the objective, and slavery was largely self-imposed.

In fact, it was jam-packed with ideas, but I have to admit will require repeat viewing and some analysis to figure out all the meanings.

Some of you here will love it.

Writers are the ones who put life lessons and a view of the world into scripts. A good director will enhance them, and a bad one will obscure or remove them, but it is the writer who has the point-of-view.

In this case, Terry Gilliam (Monty Python) both wrote and directed.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

I'm ready to move on.


Can we please move on

with the Avatar and Invictus silliness? I think that pretty much they are JUST movies with the intention of making money for the studios and sundry.

Please, try to control your paranoia. Sometimes a movie is just a movie (in fact, usually).



Avatar analysis here is terrible

If you want to go to bat for the hyper-aggressive plunderers in that movie, you are a fool.

The movie's main theme was being against violent plunder. Only fools would be against this.


Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

Communism is

Communism is a Talmudic Judaic ideology. The very people behind the idea of global government.

I have seen Avatar... and I

I have seen Avatar... and I have seen communism (with my own eyes... not in YouTube movie but in real life for 25 of my first years. I am 51 years old. I can say that Avatar has nothing to do with glorifying communism. Those that claim such thing are either brain washed neocons, paranoid or have no clue what communism as ideology was.

Fear mongering works not only in regard to terrorist... but also can be used to discredit any social movement... be it environmental or liberty...

Russians are coming! Russians are coming! Russians are coming!

Terrorist are coming! Terrorist are coming! Terrorist are coming!

Tree huggers are coming!
Tree huggers are coming!
Tree huggers are coming!

Paultards are coming!
Paultards are coming!
Paultards are coming!

When I was a boy I watch a movie where tribal leader was breaking one arrow with great ease... and later grab bunch of arrows to demonstrate that it is not easy to brake such bundle. Did he (tribal leader) glorified/promoted communism?

Once I was part of "Navi's" tribe and fought some of their battle... lesson learned from broken arrow scene on communist TV helped not communism but those fighting it. SOLIDARITY was born.

If you really want to know what communism is watch this 10 minutes of you tube video made by Latvian filmmaker.

Please sacrifice your ten minutes to watch this movie:


and if you have some more spare time watch how social(istic) bundle of arrows "my Navi" tribe won the battle with communism. Hugs to LL and tribute to his beloved priest featured in this short video.


Thank you, Janusz

I do know about this from Legalize telling us and some research. Thank you, I just watched the second video and it was very sad what happened but also inspirational for the victory! I know LL will cry if he sees this! I think we all should pay more attention to those like you and LL that have been through revolution. I appreciate you sharing your experiences and thoughts.


"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Thank you

Thank you Liberty_Belle.

"Truth is immutable. Truth can not be destroyed by this or that decision, one or another law."

"If the majority of Poles in the current situation entered into truth road, we would become free right now."

"We (Christians) have to speak the truth when others are silent. Express love and respect, while others sow hatred. Remain silent when others speak. Pray, while others curse. Help, while others do not want to do so. Forgive when others can not. Enjoy life, while others despise it."

Above are just three quotes ( in my poor English translation) from Popieluszko sermons given after marshal law was declared. People loved this young priest and after he was tortured and killed by secret police half million of Poles took part in his funeral.

I have not seen the movie

so I appreciate all the discussion and view points because it helps us all in the end.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.


Communist leaders do not like the population believing they are powerful and connected to all things. They do not like the people to organize and fight authority. They do not like the people to be free. The Navi owned property. They were bonded to certain animals and those animals became their personal animals, etc, etc. So this author's charge is foolish and simply more Neo Con vomit. Avatar was Pro Peace, that pisses off the enemies of Liberty. Looks like some members here are playing for the other team.

Where does Liberty come from then?

Does grow on a tree in North Carolina? I know you don't want to be judged, and no one here is. But Liberty did not exist until Christianity, period. You have climbed the proverbial ladder then kicked it away. But your exchanges bore me to tears, so don't expect a response to your canned, relativistic retorts.

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."


Christianity has a long history of suppressing individual liberty...just ask many of the tribes of Africa and South America. You might talk to the Celts, polytheistic until the Roman Christians "converted" them.

You are OUT of your mind.

Christians did NOT invent Liberty. All real Patriots should read kisstheclowns post and understand what this means to real freedom loving patriots. The christian fanatics among us have no intention of allowing a secular government that allows freedom. It will be their God or nothing. Count on it.

actually, yes communist

actually, yes communist leaders like the population to think they are connected to all things.. Fedor you have been playing for the other team for along time.
Devvy Kid is an ardent Ron Paul supporter, I trust her opinion much more then I trust yours.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Perhaps you could sight an example as proof

The two most notable leaders, Mao and Stalin, wanted their people to only be connected only to the state. They wanted to substitute the state for your fundamentalist God. You don't seem to like it when people define their own morality, and don't succumb to christian voodoo brainwashing.

-And by the way, not all Christianity is voodoo brainwashing, but most is.

Devvy Kidd is one of those fundamentalists that pretends to be against the state, because it does not support her views. If it did, she would be all for a powerful coercive state. I think some people here also fit that mold.


does not support your fundamentalist Christian views so you dislike the movie. Tough. The Liberty movement is not a Christian movement, nor do real patriots want a Christian theocracy. The faster you paranoid freaks with an agenda leave the Liberty movement the better for real patriots.


Some libertarian you are.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yolk of bondage.

He does not understand

He does not understand Chris.. Your post is excellent.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul


I don't understand or care about your "Chris".

keep playing that old worn

keep playing that old worn out record fedor.. no where did I say anything about the film disclaiming Christianity or anything of the sort. What some of you seem to miss in the difference between libertarianism and liberalism is this. Libertarians say, you can do what ever you want. its your life and your body. So yea the fed gov should not put a ban on homosexual marriage, but libertarians do not give their seal of approval to partake in the lifestyle. Just be ready and take responcibility for the results of that lifestyle. Aids. Same with Smoking.. you can smoke but don't expect the rest of society to pay for your lung cancer treatments 30 years from now. There are consequences for all actions, good and bad. Libertarians say sure do what you want, but hold yourself personally responcible for your own actions.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

The new religion cometh!

Look for the word avatar several paragraphs down. http://www.essene.org/Ancient_Essenes.htm

Please ignore me..

I know not what I say.

The mother earth religion is

The mother earth religion is the oldest recorded religion of the human species.

But it is the religion of environmentalism that Avatar mixes with the mother earth religion that is dangerous.

Simply, the movie is about the religion of environment (Democrat atheists) beating the US military/corporate imperialists (Neocons).

On one hand, this is good. I don't like the US military/corporate imperialists either...and the Ron Paul Revolution is against such foreign policy.

However, Avatar's alternative to civilization (tribalistic communism) is just as or more horrible than military/corporate imperialism.

What really makes Avatar so evil is its conjunction with the Copenhagen/environmental oppressive law making. Avatar is 100% pure mind manipulation.


I'm sorry, but I don't trust any environmental, "green" policy that is funded by huge Oil money. Maury Strong came from oil and has been beating this "man must perceive himself as the enemy" crap for decades. It's about control. A Gaia religion would make man a feel he is inherently "sin" and not "sinful." Therefore, the only "salvation" would be his ultimate destruction through depopulation. What a joke....

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

you are paranoid.

I saw the characters living in communities, not a clear communist/tribal message. This thread is pathetic. Avatar was a fun movie with a very powerful Pro Liberty message.

Communism...? haha... -What communism?

You may educate your head here... -or live in darkness... and enjoy manure’s smell forever...

some may want to follow their hearts, mind and spirit... and... if they see LOVE on that path... any “aspiring” nobody can NOT stop them from moving on...

For those with love in heart... besides AVATAR, http://www.dailypaul.com/node/119709

they may want to follow the light here...

and see why RP rEVOLution is changing now to JF rEVOLution... meet-ups are starting around the Globe now... -do you think RP could become a student of JF [JF is 93, RP is only 72]...?

the steps to enlightenment are here...