Obama's shocking new precedent : If they declare you a "suspected enemy combatant" ...

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you will cease being a person, according to him or according to any of his minions. While we were Christmas shopping, Obama was shopping the Supreme Court "passionately" and "fervently" and got them to -- Well, here's few lines taken from "Zero Fifths a Person" @ http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2961

"It happened earlier this week, in a discreet ruling that attracted almost no notice and took little time. ... After hearing passionate arguments from the Obama Administration, the Supreme Court acquiesced to the president's fervent request and, in a one-line ruling, let stand a lower court decision that declared torture an ordinary, expected consequence of military detention, while introducing a shocking new precedent for all future courts to follow: anyone who is arbitrarily declared a "suspected enemy combatant" by the president or his designated minions is no longer a "person." They will simply cease to exist as a legal entity. They will have no inherent rights, no human rights, no legal standing whatsoever -- save whatever modicum of process the government arbitrarily deigns to grant them from time to time, with its ever-shifting tribunals and show trials."

There's more here: "Supreme court Guts Due Process Protection" @ http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/supreme-court-guts-du...

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Does anyone have a link to

Does anyone have a link to the actual decision by the Supreme Court? I would like to read it for myself.

This is not surprising

Anyone who disagrees with these tyrants has not been considered a person for decades. The only concerning part about it is that they're finally getting the guts to say it openly, and in law.

Wouldn't be nice ?

If we could all find and present evidence that he broke his oath of office, and force our representatives to do something about it ?
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If anyone has e-mailed you about this

...or, if you've e-mailed anyone else about it, there's a 90%+ chance that it's no longer a secret.


Unless you take steps to secure your e-mail, and unless you only communicate by e-mail with others who have taken those same steps, you should assume that the content of your messages will be seen by unintended parties: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/111215

Good cryptoplogy

sad to say may soon be required. Not difficult, but tedious and requires advance planning. Now may be the time to learn.

The time is long past when anything that could possibly be seen as illegal can be openly discussed online and with countless thousands of laws knowing what may be illegal is no mean feat.

Incorrect political speech may not be far behind.

This is the worst news for liberty

that has come about in a long time. It'll take a while for the "first they came for the ..." cycle to incubate, but it will. It doesn't take much to set off the witch-hunt/better him than me mentality once people realize anyone they know can disappear.

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Obama got his Christmas present!

War on humanity.

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Freedom is gone now. Whatever the executive says is law and if you disagree you are at war with the government.

We've seen this attitude coming from federally funded local jack boots for some time now.

If they say you can't verbally protest / wave signs and then you object prepare to be gang rushed, beaten and / or tazed.

We all might as well be bowing to some half baked european King. At least he might have mersy on us. This tyranny that we've come to accept is unrelenting.

I long to have my constitution recognized andd enforced. When will we as American's stand up and vote these bastards out of office and replace them with people who will defend our BILL OF RIGHTS and refuse to be knighted by the Kings and Queens of Europe.

If I were president and I were knighted I would truly consider it a DECLARATION OF FAILURE.

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It might happen if people would quit voting

for the lesser of two evils.

The Patriot Act already gives the gov. the power to do this,..

even without being declared a suspected enemy combatant. They can make anyone disappear without a trace and without justification. Obama is only parroting an unconstitutional law, and when a lie is stated as truth enough times, it becomes the truth.

He is parroting a lie.
Poly want a cracker?

Laws get tested in the courts.

This is the courts rewriting the Constitution to "legitimize" what's already been going on.

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Thanks for the post, or I would have missed this news as well.

:)

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Welcome back, Devon.

I hope your retreat was fruitful.

Hi there bumblebee...

It really was!

I hope your year was fruitful and inspiring as well...

:)

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I hope someone remembered to take his journal.

It could be a good sounding board/mirror for such a mission.

As far as my year, it is ending in transition and my faith muscle is getting a little workout.

I am a bit anxious, but have some inspiration particularly from the bits of spiritual breakthroughs and evidences over the last year and a half.

I am glad that your retreat was satisfying, Devon. :)

Perhaps there is even a thought for the night in there...

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well, stating the obvious . . .

this is very frightening--

and blast them all!

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Obama and the Supremes recently redefined Slavery

Tracking this story back, I found this piece by Chris Floyd, titled,"Dred Scott Redux: Obama and the Supremes Stand Up for Slavery":

While we were all out doing our Christmas shopping, the highest court in the land quietly put the kibosh on a few more of the remaining shards of human liberty.

It happened earlier this week, in a discreet ruling that attracted almost no notice and took little time. In fact, our most august defenders of the Constitution did not have to exert themselves in the slightest to eviscerate not merely 220 years of Constitutional jurisprudence but also centuries of agonizing effort to lift civilization a few inches out of the blood-soaked mire that is our common human legacy. They just had to write a single sentence. ...

http://chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-ne...

One of my all-time heroes was the son of a slave and slave master, though he was never allowed to know his mother beyond his early memories of her, and never acknowledged as a human by the man who sired him.

Frederick Douglass had much to say from his unique perspective, but I'll offer what I believe he would say to us about all this:

"It is, then, the first business of the enslaver of men to blunt, deaden, and destroy the central principle of human responsibility. Conscience is, to the individual soul, and to society, what the law of gravitation is to the universe. It holds society together; it is the basis of all trust and confidence; it is the pillar of all moral rectitude. Without it, suspicion would take the place of trust; vice would be more than a match for virtue; men would prey upon each other, like the wild beasts of the desert; and earth would become a hell". Frederick Douglass- "My Bondage and My Freedom" ROCHESTER, N. Y. July 2, 1855.

For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry

Lets declare Obama a "suspected enemy combatant"

to the United States of America; to the U. S. Constitution; and to the Declaration of Independence.

Well, if they

declare you an "enemy combatant" and you have no rights or due process, then there's no downside to showing them just how effective an "enemy combatant" you can be.

In a "no win" situation like that, whaddya got to lose?

In that case, "Freedom's....

just another word for nothing left to lose"...

Assert Your Authority

Assert Your Authority

Oops.

Double post.

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What would you expect from

What would you expect from these people? They have contempt for our Constitution, and contempt for us. Our Constitution puts the burden on proof on the state. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty - unless Obama declares them a suspected enemy combatant. Then, they are presumed guilty, and torture is legal!

Since the Congress has refused to declare war, how can anyone be considered an enemy combatant? I am not splitting hairs here, I am pointing out that we are not at war. What we have are criminal suspects - people accused of crimes. Since we are not at war, Congress refuses to declare war, we are dealing with people who are accused to various crimes.

I am not for one minute defending these people. If they are guilty, they need to be punished or executed. But the law says that they are entitled to an open public trial. Allowing politicians who refuse to obey the law to proclaim or declare someone an enemy combatant, legal or otherwise, puts us all in jeopardy.

What if he decides that anyone who opposes his health care takeover is an "enemy combatant" or a "terrorist"? Americans need to decide if we are going to have Constitutional government or rule by a Furher. Do we follow the Supreme Law of the Land, or do we take our marching orders from him?

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