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Avatar! Wonderful movie with a strong Pro Freedom message!

My son loved this movie. A great theatrical example of the destructive nature of Corporatism. Two thumbs up.

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Reel Dollars: Avatar, kickin Imperialist ass & taking dollars

Box office receipts... Climbs #2 and soon to overtake... the 1997 #1 grossing film of all time, Titanic. Here is a list of the highest-grossing movies of all time:

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_TOP-BOX-OFFIC...

In peace & liberty,
Treg

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In Defense of Avatar by David R. Henderson

"Avatar is an eloquent defense of the right of people in other civilizations to live as they please. As I mentioned, Ed Hudgins is a fan of Ayn Rand and, in fact, makes his living advocating her ideas. So I’ll put it in terms that Ayn Rand used. On the issue of Avatar, Hudgins is "concrete-bound." He fails to see the basic principle: people’s right to live their lives in peace."

Read all of the great essay here:

http://original.antiwar.com/henderson/2010/01/10/in-defense-...

Go to about 55 seconds into the movie clip. The evil corporatist says... "Their village happens to be sitting on the richest deposit of..."

Let me repeat that.... THEIR VILLAGE.... Not "Our village" mind you but THEIR Village. Their subsumes the concept of OWNERSHIP... and with the concept of OWNERSHIP comes the Right to say "NO DEAL" to any trade. The fact that the evil Humans tried to TRADE with them, further gives evidence that the Humans recognized PROPERTY RIGHTS. And if we Ron Paul Republicans & libertarians and Tea Party people recognize anything, we recognize private property rights. Hence, why we dislike socialist Obama and Big time fat cat Washington Republicans.

In Peace & Liberty,

Treg

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The natives of Pandora

The natives of Pandora represent the Iranians. The marines in the movie represent the US marines. We all know what happened to the marines in the movie.

'Avatar' pulled from 1,628 Chinese movie screens

http://www.thenewstribune.com/apheadlines/outdoors/story/103...

What is real apparent to me is the people "get" the movie, yet ideologues of all stripes, do not.

Yesterday I was arguing with a liberal, an anti-smoking zealot who hated the movie because it glorified smoking. "That female scientist smokes again and again, we can't allow that in movies! (oh gee, oh my, oh my gosh, what will children do!) "furthermore, these people dominate their animals, use them and abuse them and eat them and they are supposed to be the good guys? I don't thinks so!" (oh, I see, you want "perfect" behavior, even in alien races with different religions and even on different planets!)

The day before that, I attended the International Society for Individual Liberty (ISIL) convention here in Phoenix Arizona, where "international freedom lovers" had a chance to listen to themselves -- again. After having read Ed Huggins essay on Avatar and seeing it proudly displayed along with other Randite stuff on a table in the hallway, I sought Ed out for a discussion. It is clear he hated the movie (except for the graphics) because it "misrepresented capitalism and attacked capitalism's good name". (earth to Ed, who is misrepresenting Capitalism?) Ed and other Objectivoids you see, are busy fighting the good fight, trying to "teach" what "real Capitalism is". I suggested to Ed, it is he who needs to learn what real capitalism is, not the other way around. I suggested he read the book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman to give him a clue. Oh but he knows all you see, dismissed my book suggestion and began to tell me his point, to which I pointed out that I have read all of Mrs Rands books and his essay, so perhaps it was he who should do the listening and learning. He plodded on.

Finally I replied, if "real capitalism" is not what we have today or EVER HAD BEFORE, then what is the point Ed? If, in his words, the Capitalism today is just Mercantilism, then just accept that we the people don't like mercantilism and just so happen to call it Capitalism. Ok, "Crony Capitalism" if you like and prefer, and certainly we could all use that term to point out that there MUST be a better Capitalism out there, but we have yet to find it.

Unfortunately being curious of another position is not a trait Ed displayed, for you see, "reason" was all on Ed's side. To hate the Movie Avatar Ed, is about as rational as hating Liberty,Freedom, self determination, and property rights, -- that the people of the world "GET" from the Movie Avatar, and yet sadly, Ed Huggins and many liberals, don't.

Perhaps they should both go have a smoke, and chill out.

In peace & Liberty,
Treg

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You need to remind your liberal friend

that Tobacco from the earth, by itself, is not what kills people. It's the cigarette companies and all the toxins they dump into them, that kills people. You would think a liberal would know that...

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So what...

Who cares.

We have an opportunity to get a common sense Texas candidate, injecting sanity into the upcoming debates.

Her numbers have tripled since her first debate appearance.

What have you done for her?
Nothing?
What a surprise!!

Maybe you and Feedor, could get each others phone number and have phone sex while you watch this propaganda cartoon.

Be sure and report back to us.

You have no idea how much Avatar effects the movement

This movie has impacted pop culture. It advocates individualism to a point where CNN even calls it racist. Anything to inhibit socialism from dividing us should be given respect, not called a propaganda cartoon.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Why the hateful invective?

I do not know you "Jefferson". Why the hateful invective?

If your goal is to get me in Arizona to do something for your Texas candidate, do you think talking to me in such a way is going to Motivate Me to help? Do you think I will think well of your candidate now? I know nothing of your Texas candidate, and now, do you think I am somehow inspired to learn and help?

I further do not know Feedor, but "This Propaganda Cartoon" as you call it inspires me. As I point out, to me its about Freedom and Property Rights and Self Determination. Does your Texas candidate support those things?

Why the insults? If you were 4 feet from me, would you insult me like that to my face? Or are you just 'brave' like that behind a keyboard?

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

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China's moviegoers see a story about private property, not race.

Wall Street Journal -- China's moviegoers see a story about private property, not race.

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB1000142405274870365210...

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private property? what if one

private property? what if one of the mythical nav'i wanted to sell the crystalls or what ever the others wanted when the other nav'i didn't want him too. could the "property" owner have sold the mining rights?

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

A big "what if"

Considering that premise was not present in the movie.

Given the movie did not indicate that there was any individual in the group who was intent on selling, and the leaders of the clearly willfully committed to their place and their ways tribe did not want to sell, I think it is pretty clear there was no desire to trade away their property.

Given such, the aggressors were in the wrong.

Creating a bunch of hypotheticals is really essentially a red herring.

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THAT is

interesting.

CHA-CHING!

I rarely go to the movies

I rarely go to the movies espeically now days with torrents but I just got back from this movie in 3d and it was much better then I expected. 3D is amazing!

I highly recommend it as good way to first relax and decompress and also inspirational depsite whether you agree with all the themes in it or not.

Overall I really enjoyed it and was inspired by it.It did seem to parallel the American Indians plight in many ways.

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Great to see so many

patriots LOVED this movie. Look out, some of our religious extremist members are after Avatar because they feel it "peddles Paganism" instead of Christianity. They believe in liberty as long as it is Christian liberty for all. This is a concern for all real patriots.

"real patriots" what is real

"real patriots" what is real patriot Fedor.. please explain. Were you a delegate in the last election cycle?
did you max out in your contributions. Did you go door to door to introduce Ron Paul to your neighbors? or did you sit here on the daily paul 24/7 telling everyone how great of a "real patriot" you are..

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Fedor

Your assumption is flawed. You seem to imply Christian extremists (whatever that means. If it is someone who loves Jesus Christ and tries to live by God's laws-who knows)are not real patriots. This statement shows you either don't know much about Christianity or you have a bias against Christians. In either case let me just say - I am a blood bought born again King James Bible believer who has accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Saviour and I am an Army veteran who served in the Military Police. George Washington is one of my favorite Presidents.

There are a couple of things I would lay down my life for:
(In this order)
1. Jesus Christ
2. My family
3. My country
That doesn't mean I'm not a patriot, it means I have my priorities in order.

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I would defend my family over

I would defend my family over a mythologically enhanced historical figure. To each his own.

that mythologically enhanced

that mythologically enhanced historical figure is more than just a figure and is not mythological. He is God in the flesh. I have a feeling within the next 7 years you come to see that for the reality he is. Hope you are on the right side.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

I'd be willing to literally

I'd be willing to literally bet you everything I own that you are 100% wrong about that. People have imagined for centuries that they were living in the end times. All have been wrong, and so will you be. Mark your calendar. I was like you in my past, convinced Armageddon was nigh. I've managed to outgrow ridiculous superstitions and the influence of organized religion.

My take on Avatar...

I enjoyed the movie...It was an escape, and a great one at that. I did not see it as a political film. I saw the movie while visiting family for the holidays, and it was simply that, a movie, and an escape from what we really have to deal with in the real life. I think the Indians of the Americas could probably or do have some type of connection with this movie if anyone does, or possibly the Iraqis, and now the Afganistanis.

I agree.

I will buy this movie when it goes up for sale. It's a keeper.

Flat, Cardboard, Cartoonish, Crude Cliche Characters.

A little more effort to make the characters (with the possible exception of the main one) more subtle and realistic would have more than compensated for a few less 3D special FX.
No doubt, some fans of Jung could argue that the characters as they are represent very profound archetypes, and consider them a strength.

Sound track needs work too.

Still a dazzling, very enjoyable film with enough different themes that there is something for all but the most wild-eyed foaming fanatics(like the anti-smoking Nazis)to identify with.

Great movie !

It's all about Ron Paul and freedom!

Avatar is an inspiring movie

I do not see anything communist about it....I was glad the military guy at the end got slain and it was fine that the military industrial complex was destroyed.

There was nothing animus about it. Sometimes to defend true freedom, true wars are necessary.

The movie

exposed mercenaries, not active duty military. Of course we are seeing a cross over now. Our military being used as mercenaries. Great movie.

What?

He was a member of the military and currently on active duty assignments. That is truly the wrong way to describe the movie.

He was paralized. Not on active duty. Wake up.

He was chosen/asked because he had the correct dna (brother) for the Avatar. Looks like someone didn't pay attention. They were mercenaries. Obviously.

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Avatar is a GREAT libertarian Freedom Movie! Loved it

If you are for private property rights, the right to say NO to a "sale" forced upon you, then you got to love this movie for that fact alone. If you are the kind of guy who loves that T-Square protest poster of the one lone guy saying NO to all those Chinese tanks,... you will love this movie.

In peace & liberty,
Treg

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you got

it!