Anyone else here not a gun owner?
Submitted by BmoreBrawler on Mon, 01/04/2010 - 17:20
I have never even fired a gun(I have used hunting bows though). I sort of want to get one just to exercise my rights, but I think I would be endangering myself by buying a registered weapon because then if some jackass calls the cops on me they will send a SWAT team. Has anyone else been in this dilemma or are in it currently?
sometimes...
Sometimes, others put the power on their hand, which is, I think, not appropriate. There are people who find it hard to learn what the appropriate laws are for carrying firearms? It isn't that hard. However, a lot of people aren't getting the memo. Lil Wayne is one example and for carrying such firearm, he is going to jail.
An interesting read
that may influence your decision:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/01/gandhi-and-dalai-lama...
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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Some good quotes on there.
I've saved that page for future reference.
So annoying
I had a .22 rifle, but my parents got paranoid and hid it from me, the one who actually trained how to use and maintain it, the one who is a responsible gun owner, who talks about freedom all the time. It pisses me off because I talk about the non-aggression principles where you do not infringe upon someone's person or property, and only use violence in self defense.
I really want to get a hand gun, but in Minnesota, you have to be 21 to buy one/ammo for it. That hurdle will be passed at the end of March, but there still happens to be one more hurdle that I have no idea how to clear. The MN gun laws explicitly state that a person with Bipolar disorder or anyone who has ever been hospitalized for depression (for 3 days back when I was 13!), may not legally purchase a handgun.
I just want a gun so I can protect myself and others. My pride and love of freedom would never let me go on a spree. I'm the one who STOPS the crazy guy who's shooting up the place.
Oh, and moving isn't an option right now. If it was, I'd have moved to Montana by now where the 2nd Amendment still exists.
I was raised around firearms.
I was raised around firearms. My Dad was a member of a local gun club. We did father/son tournaments, decathalons, and took the Hunter Safety Course. We always had guns in the house (which back then were never locked up). And my brother and I never thought to play with them. We were taught to respect firearms, and knew they weren't toys. I, personally, have yet to buy my own firearms, but plan to as soon as we move out of the city and into a more rural setting. I've used shotguns, single and double barreled, all kinds of handguns, rifles, AR-15... it was a very cool aspect of my childhood. A good way for a kid to bond with his/her Dad.
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"A good way for a kid to bond with his/her Dad." I'm a Grandmother of 9, and I made it my responsibility to teach all my Grand children Gun safty and how to shoot. I call it Granny BootCamp!
My mom grew up in the country
no electricity when she was a kid, I think it was after she moved out or just before when they got a bathroom inside. But, she never had to hunt or shoot. It just never appealed to her and wasn't necessary to her role in the family.
Fast forward 50 years, I bought my folks a shotgun and ammo on my Dad's birthday, and he bought her a .38 for Christmas. And they both want me to teach her to shoot.
So I am going to be bonding with my mom. Guns they're fun for the whole family.
*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*
henri,
"A good way for a kid to bond with his/her Dad.", indeed!
You go, Granny!
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Proud to say that I will be
Proud to say that I will be making my first purchase of a fire arm very soon.
For a couple of you that have posted
Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't want to sound like a jerk. But. . . . guns don't just decide to go off on their own. (unless it is a semi auto with a messed up firing pin that gets stuck).
Our ancestors had guns hanging over the door on forked sticks, standing in the corner, hanging over the fireplace, in the truck, all loaded and in reach. And hardly any of them ever just levitated themselves up and started shooting.
Kids sat down and played within arms reach of the guns, and they didn't grab them and shoot their momma. Parents taught the kids how to be responsible, because they loved their kids, because they knew that an unloaded gun locked up in safe, was of no use if they needed it.
This said my guns except for 2 are always locked in the gun safe, the reason being is I have quite a few and I fear folks breaking in while I am away and stealing them. But, there are always two out and ready to use, loaded and not locked up. And anytime I am out of the house one in my front pocket in a pocket holster. The whole idea of trigger locks and unloaded guns makes no sense to me. I might as well have a stick or a length of pipe.
My son will be 5 in April, he knows what they are, and what they do, and knows never to touch them. When I come in from hunting and stand my rifle in the corner before I lock it back up, I am not scared he will grab it and start shooting or that it will pick itself up and indiscriminately shoot the whole family. Because, again he knows what it is, what it does, and it is not a toy.
We as a society have become a nation of wimps to scared to be parents to our kids, and to scared to protect ourselves and our families against danger.
Ask yourself a couple of questions:
1. Do you trust your government?
2. Who was the most instrumental in breaking up
the family in America.
3. What entity has been trying to disarm us for years,
and also spends billions of our money to tell us to
unload, lock up, and turn in our arms?
4. Can you name one thing productive that government
does well?
5. Can you name one aspect of our lives that isn't
regulated, mandated, or legislated by the federal
government?
The answers to me are apparent. This is just what they want, a nation of unarmed sheep, that are too scared to defend themselves, or raise their kids. Because it is a whole lot easier for them to control the next generations when they are the one that dictated how they were raised instead of the parents. And, the kids see no example of how to think or do for themselves, cause the parents are sheep just like the grandparents were.
We as a country are just what they want us to be. A bunch of dependent, asleep, controlled sheep.
Too scared to do anything that some government agency advises against.
You have fallen for the propaganda. "the only folks that can be trusted with guns is the government", "guns are scary", "guns are bad", "guns aren't tools they are animate objects that can kill at will and can't be controlled".
No, they are tools that a free people use to provide food and protection for themselves. Yes, they are dangerous if used incorrectly or by people that don't understand their mechanics. But, they are not some mystical being to complicated for you to comprehend.
Propaganda, it has told us that the United States Constitution is too hard for us to understand.
Propaganda, it has told us the Bible is too hard to understand.
We the people have to have others explain both to us because we couldn't possibly understand them.
Propaganda, it has told us that guns are too dangerous to understand and they just go off by themselves, and we must trust the police and the government to protect us.
Control. It is all about control.
If you have some sort of legitimate conscientious objection to firearms that is great I am behind you 100%. However, if you have allowed yourself to be brainwashed into believing the propaganda then please get over it. Go purchase protection for your family, and don't be scared of it. Respect it for what it is, but teach your self and your family that your brain is your safety, and the weapons safety is just a switch that lets the trigger move.
*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*
great post ...
Thank you, ODell!
Thanks
I guess I am one of those guys clinging to my guns and religion.
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Very well said !
I grew up in a ranching community at a time when everyone,and I mean everyone had rifles in a gun rack in the back window and a pistol handy at all times.
No one went riding or moving stock with out a pistol on,many that I know saved their own lives having to shoot a run away horse with a foot hung up in a stirrup.
They were considered a necessary tool,just as important as a good rope or a sharp pocket knife to "steer" a young bull out on the range.
Guns are"tools",and are only as good as the person using them.
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Don't get me started on knives :)
It is maddening how restrictive knife laws are. And how brainwashed folks are about knives.
I work for a living. I am everything from the guy that unclogs the toilet to the ceo. And, I use a pocket knife or a razor knife several times during the day, to do many things.
When I see people that need one I offer to help them and most of the time they gasp and say, "why do you have a knife in your pocket"? I then tell them, "so I don't have to wait on someone else to help me out when I need one."
And I am in small town Alabama, I can't imagine how bad it is in other places.
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Pure city brainwashing
"Why do you have a knife in you're pocket?"
A few weeks back,my wife and I went to"the City",We stopped at walmart and as we were getting out of the car I noticed a group of young walmart employees surrounding and staring into a van parked there.
I had to go see what was up,They were commenting on how they had called the cops on the owner of the van because he had a"Wild Bighorn Sheep"locked up inside.
So I squeezed in and took a look,It was a common domestic Nubian Goat!I started to laugh when the cop showed up and made a big deal out of paging the owner in the store,bringing out the manager,and calling HQ for back up on this person that had a"Bighorn Sheep" in their vehicle.
I could only ask myself"What is this world coming to"
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Speaking of Wal-mart and brainwashing
My mother in law (who grew up dirt poor on a farm) is always worried about us eating the vegetables and animals I raise and the wild game I kill for food. But, doesn't think anything is wrong with eating out or buying food from the grocery store.
She is a wonderful woman, but is just a good example of how backwards "they" have made our society's thinking. That it is some how safer to trust the FDA or EPA to tell us what to eat rather than ourselves.
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Gone hungry !
I have had people from the city over for dinner and have refused to eat the chicken because they watched it being butchered"we are not going to eat that are we?"Unbelievable !
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Exactly...
Cars kill more children than any other physical object.
I always ask the gun bigots if they lock their car keys in a safe, or just leave them lying around. Better, yet...in the purse with all the prescription drugs? They just give me a blank stare.
Excellent commentary.
Just what I would like to say. Thanks for posting.
I've got lots of guns and I'm proud of them
Four shotguns 22 and 12 gauge one a double barrel, An 8 mm Mauser rifle, a 4/10 22 breach over under two miscellaneous think they're 12 gauge and two 32 semi auto
handguns one a Walthers and the other a Bernelli
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
i think it's a good idea
recently a friend of mine and i attended a ladies tea, we got to talking about what a good an idea it would be to learn the proper way to handle and fire a gun. once we finished lunch we headed over to a local war and surplus store to check things out. there were so many people surrounding the gun cases it was hard to see but eventually we were able to talk with someone who was very helpful. he sent us home with pamphlets to read concerning gun laws and information on classes. we have yet to take the class but still plan to do so. our husbands think we're nuts, two sixty year old women learning to use firearms. oh well, i still want to learn to change a tire too.
I don't
But before owning a gun, I'll first learn how to use it.
Anyway, I live in this socialist country called France.
Owning a gun there is not a right...
It is a right, you just don't exercise it.
I have friends in Europe who have them, one has three.
Get to know the laws and how to get around the laws legally.
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I don't own a gun either...
but one of the best pieces of research and writing I have ever done was to refute a piece of gun control legislation, HR 2159, "Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009":
http://periculosae.blogspot.com/2009/07/rightwing-in-crossha...
My husband owns guns, and once I took one out to a friend's farm to see what it would be like to fire one. God, I was terrified, and God, what a horrible shot I am. But it's a right we all should have, and should work vigorously to defend...especially in Maryland, a place where it's almost impossible to get a carry permit, and where those in power would love to deny us the right to own guns at all..
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
The Davidians were pretty well armed...
But, they had a battle with poisonous, explosive CS gas and National Guard tanks.
The main purpose for owning a gun is to hunt, defend against your everyday looters, rapists and (soon) the roving gang scum. If you think that your pop gun will have any effectiveness fighting "the tyrants" or "the oppressors", then good luck. Watch this show Tuesday night. IN YOUR FACE ! Resistance is futile.
http://www.howeandhowe.com/
Wake up call. This stuff is stone-aged compared to what they can unleash. You'll never know what happened.
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I've often wondered that myself...
the guns that are available to the common citizen are still using 50-100 year old designs...we don't have much available to us that's better than 1911s and AK-47s...who knows what kind of space age weapons the NWO has by now? That sound weapon that melts your eardrums sounds pretty scary...
On the other hand, they ARE still trying to take what we have....38 specials have been killing people for over 100 years, and the human body hasn't gotten any tougher since then!
tell that to these guys, they must have missed it...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/11/weapons-failed-us-t...
WASHINGTON — It was chaos during the early morning assault last year on a remote U.S. outpost in Afghanistan and Staff Sgt. Erich Phillips' M4 carbine had quit firing as militant forces surrounded the base. The machine gun he grabbed after tossing the rifle aside didn't work either.
When the battle in the small village of Wanat ended, nine U.S. soldiers lay dead and 27 more were wounded. A detailed study of the attack by a military historian found that weapons failed repeatedly at a "critical moment" during the firefight on July 13, 2008, putting the outnumbered American troops at risk of being overrun by nearly 200 insurgents.
Which raises the question: Eight years into the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan, do U.S. armed forces have the best guns money can buy?
Despite the military's insistence that they do, a small but vocal number of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq has complained that the standard-issue M4 rifles need too much maintenance and jam at the worst possible times.
A week ago, eight U.S. troops were killed at a base near Kamdesh, a town near Wanat. There's no immediate evidence of weapons failures at Kamdesh on Oct. 3, but the circumstances were eerily similar to the Wanat battle: insurgents stormed an isolated stronghold manned by American forces stretched thin by the demands of war.
Army Col. Wayne Shanks, a military spokesman in Afghanistan, said a review of the battle at Kamdesh is under way. "It is too early to make any assumptions regarding what did or didn't work correctly," he said.
if I were there ...I would bring my own weopons..
just in case ... why would anyone trust their life with the government? even the military?
Of course that is why anyone who doesn't trust the government probably wont join the military...
A nice pair of shined....
....AK-47's would put an end to that junk real quick, if you threw in two to three EMP grenades.
Guns?
You may never need them?? ..........But you'll be damn sure glad you got them if you ever do! Rely on yourself be prepared. That's my thought for the day...