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Constitutionalists and Christians have much in common! By joining forces they could quickly regain control of the U.S.!

There is no doubt that Christianity and individual liberty were the primary philosophies that formed this nation and its constitution.

With 76% percent, or 228 million Americans claiming to be Christians, both movements would do well to recognize the overwhelming, unprecedented and unstoppable political power that would result if these natural allies would once again join forces.

I say it's not just coincidence that Mr. Liberty himself is a Christian. Without uttering a word, what an example this man can set!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jRO3hptL4U
http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions



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Does this sound familiar???

"In 1382 the introduction of John Wycliffe's translation of the Bible read, “This Bible is for the Government of the People, by the People, and for the People.” John was arrested by the government, and died in jail. Two years later a church burned his body at the
stake. They burned others alive for the same belief and perception."

"...Government of the People, by the People, and for the People" Written in 1382. Sound familiar???
But it is the Bible that this reference is made to.

The Bible IS Government of the People, by the People, and for the People. It is the Translator that deceives the people into believing otherwise.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

You quote a guy

That enslaved half a country to free a few slaves?

How so did he enslave half a

How so did he enslave half a country? Explain your statement.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Half the country left and became a new one

He attacked them and refused to let them leave.

grossly over simplified, but true none the less.

You do know that that quote I

You do know that that quote I put there is not quoting Abraham Lincoln? I did put a date, I'm quite sure the Abraham Lincoln you refer to was not yet born in 1382.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Very true! Lincoln was a tyrant, a traitor and a hypocrite

and I think that his ugly face should be erased from Mount Rushmore and replaced with that of John Wilkes Booth! I only regret that Booth did not act five years earlier. It is due more to Lincoln than to any other single individual that this nation was put on the path to tyranny and statism. Lincoln worshipped the state and raw power over everything else, and that is why statists of all stripes, right and left, worship him in turn.

HOLY SHAT!!!!!!!!

I just laughed so hard. That was so funny thinking of seeing john wilkes booth replacing Lincoln.

THe "Founders" did not create

THe "Founders" did not create GOVERNMENT based upon the Chrisitan RELIGION. The Christian religion and Christianity are two different things. In the Christian Religion people go to church, in Christianity people ARE the Church. Even our present government still recognizes this unto today. Reading the IRS peblication for tax exempt organizations, the Church is automatically exempt, and even "exempt" is not the right word, "Excluded" is the correct term. The Church is excluded from taxation and is not even required to file for tax exemption. Religions on the other hand MUST file for tax exempt status. So the so called churches, which are actually Christian RELIGION, are not THE church.

The word religion is mentioned in the Bible only 5 times, 4 times in a derogatory manner. One time "True Religion" is mentioned, and is defined as overseeing the widows and orphans, and remaining unspotted from the Government of Men, Free from Government.

Read this:
http://www.hisholychurch.info/proof/higherlibertyproof.pdf

When people once again come to understand that Jesus was a King, not a Magician walking around doing "abra cadabra" and turning a "few fish" into 4000 fish, which is the translation of a trator, when people come to understand that Christianity is not a religion but a form of Government in which men are free from the authority of other men, then men will again begin to be free.

I would certainly agree with you though that the Constitution is not a Christian document. The Articles of Confederation were extremely close. But it is the Constitution that got us where we are today, under the Bondage of Egypt.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

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The Constitution didn't get

The Constitution didn't get us where we are today, the Framers of that document were well aware that without vigilance on the part of the citizens of the country that no wall of words, no parchment would protect this country, its liberties or freedoms. It is easy to blame the Constitution for what is really the lack of determination on the part of people to ensure their own standard of liberty against tyranny.

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

"A Republic, if you can keep

"A Republic, if you can keep it"

I'd say they were well aware that we WOULD NOT have the vigilance. If you read Madison's note of the Constitutional Convention its pretty obvious that Tyrants had as much presence at the convention as Patriots did. Those who wanted a Monarchy, standing armies, funny money, all powerful central government...they were all in attendance at the convention. And they even knew that they couldn't get the thing passed following the Law in effect at the time, so they used the NEW law, the law that had not yet been passed, to make the new law. Some people seem to forget, when the Constitutional Cogress was held, there was already a Constitution in effect. And they violated the Law that was in effect in order to make the new law.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

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Actually, they didn't violate

Actually, they didn't violate the law to make the new law, they followed the prescribed manner to make those changes enumerated within the Articles of Confederation. Read the Articles. The Articles of Confederation made it possible with a particular method and that method was there for a reason, the same reason that Amendments to the Constitution. While the method of changing the Articles were cumbersome, just as it is with the Constitution, it nevertheless provided for such change.

Not only did the Articles provide for such changes, it also provided for the dissolution of the Confederation, if required or desired by the Several States. That being the case, how then did the Framers of the Constitution violate the law if the law they used provided for such change?

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Basically Fedor, the Bible

Basically Fedor, the Bible that you DON'T believe in, is not the real Bible. It is a GROSS mistranslation. The original text is a book about freeing men from tyrants, and living in Free Republics.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Looks like a lot of people

don't get it. That's why the bible should NOT be used to govern. That's why our Founders wanted a secular government. They knew what they were doing.

If you want freedom, the the

If you want freedom, the the Bible is the blue print for such. The Bible is the blue print for a Free Republic, what was created here by the Articles of Confederation. It is either the Bible, or enslavement.

"Men must be governed by God, or they will be ruled by tyrants." William Penn

Fedor, read the short book I linked above and you will BEGIN the see the Bible from VERY different eyes.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Uh huh.

no kjv

that website uses only the corrupted new versions of the Bible.

Also what he doesnt tell you is that in the Bible there were no prisons allowed by the law. And that it was easy for someone to get out of this "slavery"

John Quade "actor, aerospace engineer, and Christian activist"

Quade was an outspoken opponent of the U.S. government and believed it had become drastically different from the founding fathers' intent. He gave numerous lectures on the New World Order of the current government. In short, he was opposed to Section 2 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, Social Security numbers, and driver's licenses. He was often referred to as an "actor, aerospace engineer, and Christian activist". He was a supporter of the Allodial Title belief in common law.

John Quade 1994 AMAZING LECTURE! 1/7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_dyWiCW-QU

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Very good post

one that really needs a lot of clearing up. The congregations have been duped. If they would just realize this and realize who "Israel" is and isn't, we could begin to win this impossible struggle. THe NWO has outsmarted us for decades or centuries and we have a lot of teaching to do to catch up. That is why I think all the states need to secede and dump this government and start over. Making the platform for secession that of riding ourselves of a tirant shadow government that has nothing to do with our Constitution which is still what our country is about.

The US is a Christian country, not a Religious country and atheists and other religions should protect that with everything they have, because this Christian country is what protects freedom and safety.

The US is NOT

a Christian country. The Founders made sure of that and modern Christians will not stick their silly label on this country.

Yes it IS

It is NOT a Religious nation.

Wrong.

The word Christian means nothing. To label this country Christian is absurd. What does a "Christian" country mean? Many Christians here don't consider other Christians, Christians. It's a joke. The US is NOT a Christian country.

Get back "which" U.S.

The "religous right" U.S.
Or
The "constitutional" U.S.

???

Discover Costa Rica

Have we had a

Religious Right USA??

Personally

I wish that people could come together for mostly secular reasons when it comes to my government. I've never been a religious man and never been shy of it, which has often let me see just how "accepting" many christians are toward non-christians, including atheists. I don't consider proselytizing to be accepting of my beliefs.
Considering the confusion of morals in the bible across its many books I just don't find much to recommend scripture-based belief. I know that most people who have christian beliefs are very similar to me in their secular beliefs. However, so much of their religious beliefs bleed over and into the secular side that I feel that many christians wear "issue sensitive blinders". Liberty for all? Oh, sure.
Gay rights? Nope, sorry.
Capiche?
I would like to say "live and let live", but I can't seem to convince everyone to do so.
Finally, I think it speaks volumes that the FF specifically stated that "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". To me, this is their way of saying "religion is a personal issue and should never intrude into secular affairs."
Just my 42c (adjusted for inflation)

Government has no place in

anyone's bedroom. The gay marriage issue is simply a taxing issue. Taxes are an issue gay or not gay. So get rid of the bad taxing process and the gay issue goes away. Abortion, why should our government pay for abortion? Our government doesn't pay for my children's birth. Christianity is not the problem, tyranical government is the problem. Get it back to the Constitution and the rest goes away. Gay rights, illegal aliens, abortion, education, wars, infrastructure--we argue about all the little issues and the problem is that government is out of its boundaries. It is flooding the premises.

I fear for Jerusalem

Because the old argument could move from here to there again!Can you imagine what that city has been through?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Ron Paul is a wise man. He is also a politican, devout believer

in the constitution and Christian. If it's significant to Ron Paul, then that passes the litmus test for me.

It's my understanding that one of the common traits of communism is a disbelief in God. I wonder how that is working out.

People believe what the want to, but the fact remains, the liberty movement could greatly benefit from an alliance with the Christian Community.

Pearls and time, I choose to waste no more!