Today Haiti Tomorrow America?
http://www.naturalnews.com/027948_food_security_preparedness...
Overnight, Haiti has gone from an organized, civil nation to a scenario of total chaos with gangs running wild through the streets, ransacking shops and fighting over food with machetes.
Learning this, many an ignorant westerner might naively say, "That could only happen in Haiti. It's because those people are so poor, so uncivilized. It could never happen here..."
Oh but it could.
Haiti isn't so different from wherever you live -- a city in America, Canada, Australia, the UK or anywhere else. Everywhere in the world, people will fight for survival when the situation becomes desperate. The only reason the streets in your town aren't overrun with firearms and machetes right now is because food is plentiful. The electricity works. The water supply is functioning and police keep the relatively few criminals under control.
But wherever you live, your city is just one natural disaster away from total chaos. Hurricane Katrina proved it: Even in America, a civil, law-abiding city of people can be turned into looting, stealing and dangerously armed bands of gang-bangers.
And you know why? Because people aren't prepared for disasters. Come to think of it, most people aren't even prepared for a disruption in food and electricity lasting more than 48 hours. Almost nobody has spare food, water, emergency first aid supplies or the ability to physically defend themselves against aggressors. They are betting their lives on the bizarre idea that their government will save them if something goes wrong.
The people of Haiti are now learning what the people of New Orleans already know: Your government won't save you. In a real crisis, you are on your own.
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The problem is that the US
The problem is that the US government has been interfering with their politics and undermining any chance Haiti's ever had at stability. They help overthrow democratic leaders who oppose their will and thus create an environment of war and chaos. And suddenly, they are expected to be prepared for this?
It's total Anarchy
in Haiti now, it seems.
Misnomer. Haiti is up for grabs
by warring factions and opportunistic vultures, none of them committed to non-State non-aggression; and the biggest one threatening them is the US military moving in under pretext of "doing good."
Here is another way people are
helping people in this disaster. the tech community is strong, light, agile, exquisitely responsive to needs, whether humanitarian or commercial.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/15/haiti.tech.camp/index.htm...
The more we are connected to our larger digital communities, the more ideas and resources we tap into. The Daily Paul is a good example. Members come here often for help, organizing, ideas, resources.
The response to Iceland's need is another example.
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We are the same as Haitians - human beings. This could happen here. Some believe this is very likely to occur here. In that case, we need all DPers to survive!
Thank you for the article - it contains excellent links that I needed.
Thank you for your comment
and for those that blame the good people of Haiti here is a website with lots of great info about NWO crimes against this nation -
http://www.outofhaiti.ca/odious_debt.html
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Bah - Haiti has been a disaster for a long time
Sorry, I can't agree with you. In South Florida we experienced hurricane Wilma which took out power for 10 days, stores had little to no food. It did not make the news, there was no FEMA response. It was ignored and with good reason, nothing really happened. People got by, they helped each other, they didn't loot, shoot and complain. When we turned on our battery powered radios all the hurricane news was still about KATRINA which was about two months prior.
I can't draw a parallel to the devastation in Haiti as I don't know what happened there, the media and the corrupt gov't lack the ability to tell the truth but I do know that for an area to fall into utter chaos within 24-48 hours speaks volumes about the character of the people involved. I mean, get real, did anyone starve to death in New Orleans? No, Did anyone die from lack of water? No. They simply acted like idiots.
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I agree with you.. I asked my
I agree with you.. I asked my wife at dinner last night.. How is it that every Island around them is a tourist attraction but Haiti is not? they could be a wealthy nation and a top vacation spot, what is wrong with that picture?
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Too Funny
I had a similar discussion, I asked if something like this happened in Denmark or another small nation would the people be running around with machetes?
There is a common factor when these things go into chaos but I'm afraid we are way too PC to even touch that subject.
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both spots were full of people that were completely
dependent on others for their sustenance. The interviews I have seen from Hatti looked and sounded just like the ones from New Orleans. They are mad cause "no one brought us anything, no one gave us anything"
I don't want to be insensitive, but the first recourse to a problem like this should not be dependence on the government or someone else somewhere to "give me something".
I know they are hurting I know they are without a lot of things, but whose fault is it they didn't plan ahead?
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bug out
How many Haitians had a bug out plan? A 3day bag and route to get to country side or at least away from hordes of people. I'm willing to bet NONE. Even in poverty you can do a gym bag with 3 days of water. No excuses living on a fault line.
Don't even get me started on lax building codes and the genetically ingrained corrupt gov't that steals our "assistance" decade after decade.
BTW, liberals and kitten huggers: People are still starving in Ethiopa. We are the world doesn't work. You can't save everyone.
EDIT: This also is true for Americans as well. I bet very few who live in CA are prepared to hydrate and hike for 3 days until help comes.
exactly what I told my wife..
exactly what I told my wife.. I got the responce that they are too poor, I said it doesn't cost much to have a weeks or 2 supply of food and water. It is the same thing with idiots in Florida, they never prepare for a hurrican till its a day away. Then they all like a pack of rats head to the store to get supplies. And what is even funnier if the hurrican misses them they take the supplies back to get their money, all the while bitching , moaning and groaning. People do not think ahead. they expect someone else or government to help them.
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Yep bug out
My wife and I now live in a 40ft coach with everything on board to last a month easy,Solar power Etc.just in case we have to bug out.You got it!
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I think we have become a little loose with the word "natural"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_Department_o...
ORGANIZED and CIVIL
Haiti,organized and civil?
NOT since before Papa Doc!! And the
guns and machetes ARE out and it's only
been a few days.
Obummer needs more Gitmo-style room so he'll take Haiti as payment for aid.
there was chaos for many years there
but not even at 1% of what is happening now.
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Obama will probably be
Obama will probably be writing his story in Newsweek on how we need a world government to deal with these problems.
Yes, thank you.
Haiti was a cesspool... Horrible policy and a tragic standard of life as a result.
have a good look at this website
http://outofhaiti.ca/police_massacres.html
NWO controls that country totally and they are probably making it a test run for what they plan for us.
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Are you kidding me?
"Overnight, Haiti has gone from an organized, civil nation"
Did this writer know anything about Haiti prior to the earthquake? This was a nation of people who literally ate mud because there was barely no infrastructure, organization, or working government to distribute food or resources. It was/is one of the most violent countries in the world. "Organized" and "civil", my ass.
I agree with the sentiment that we'll all turn into savages once the luxuries of electricity, accessible food, clean water, and working toilets are taken away, but this article is poorly written.
I agree the writer seemed to know little
about Haiti, though his comments on preparedness for all people at all times is valid.
As for a working government to distribute food or resources, bureaucracies have vast resources by theft of the people; but they are the least efficient channels for efficient solutions and aid.
Much of Haiti's poverty and cultural distress comes after years of oppression by many countries including the US. It is hard for people to stay organized and conquer poverty when under the thumb of one tyranny after another.
The US military has special training and equipment in getting the airport functioning again, or moving heavy debris, but aside from that they should be in and out as quickly as possible. The National Guard, Homeland Security and the others did far more harm than good after Katrina. They disrupted genuine rescue efforts and delivery of goods, plus the voluntary exodus of people to safer areas for recovery.
I hope everyone in the US is
I hope everyone in the US is seeing what is happening.
There is no Excuse not to have water, food, etc stored to get through a 6 month period. There are several areas in the US that could have a larger quake than what Haiti had.
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did
the california earthquake happen at the same time as haiti's
No this is total BS. Its kind
No this is total BS. Its kind of funny how the people during Katrina looted and felt entitled to government help while the people in California or the mid west helped each other. You can blame it on poverty all You want but I will disagree because it has everything to do with culture and nothing to do with money.
Agreed, a small minority
Agreed, a small minority makes a ruckus, the media jumps all over it and that is all we see. Example: Hurricane Katrina also devastated parts of Mississippi but we hardly heard about that because the residents were acting civil and helping one another. New Orleans had an incompetent leader basically telling everyone to panic.
Living in south Florida I've found that people are usually the most helpful after a hurricane and are for the most part, helpful.
starving people everywhere act the same way
I learned stories in my childhood of people all over Europe eating dogs cats and pigeons to survive...and how about the starving soldiers of the American revolution they where roasting rats at one time to survive.
here is something for you my friend see/read and weep.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1243417/Ha...
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Desperation can strip away the thin veneer of civility.
I agree with you that this is a danger. Much crime is a result of poverty, even if that poverty is sudden, brought on by an extraordinary event. That is not to say that everyone thrust into desperation turns to force to acquire what they need, but many would use force when survival is in question.
There are forces at work worldwide that will test your thoughts over the next several decades. The further contraction of the economy both from the collapse of the debt based monetary system and from lack of energy may well reduce the US and other industrial nations to third world status, with starvation and homelessness as constant human companions. I don't think most are prepared for what is to come or are even aware of the forces already in motion.
As an aside, the article about "looting" in Haiti seems to be misleading. What I read was that what has occurred so far has been "scavenging" from collapsed buildings, not "looting" of standing stores. So far, I would say that the people in Haiti have been quite civil.
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perfect comment - Thank you
yes so far people in Haiti are quite civil for the situation that they are in - no food water little medical care...
as to what level an intelligent cultured person can go I always look back to the stories from the Soviet Gulag -
one hungry professor would grab a bowl of soup from his best friend...a girl princess from a good home raised on God worship would sell her virginity for a loaf of bread...
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