Joe Kennedy has closed his email account because of threats:
"Dear Supporter,
Unfortunately we have had to shut down this email address. We have been flooded by spam from Brown supporters including insults and threats of violence against me and my family. Please contact another campaign committee member with your request. We apologize for this inconvenience.
Joe Kennedy"
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Today I sent this to Massachusetts
I am a Floridian, but today i sent the following to all my business and social contacts in Massachusetts:
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Friends,
As you know, I am a voter in Florida and I hope you don't think I am out of line in sending you this message. Because of the precarious 60/40 split in the U.S. Senate and the pending health care reform bill, the U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts has turned into a national race.
I am very concerned over the federal government's fiscal and monetary behavior over the last decade, which has metastasized in over the past year-and-a-half. Our government is running up debt and creating new money at an unprecedented, frightening pace. Along the way, it is assuming new powers it has not been granted by legislation nor constitutional amendment. In this environment, I believe we should be focused more on getting back to normal than making history.
I hope you will take the time tomorrow to cast a vote against Martha Coakley. Today, I would urge you to contact people you know to do the same. I don't believe our country can afford what may be her very first vote in the Senate on a bill she has not read.
Thank you!
Philip Blumel
ADDRESS & PHONE
P.S. Feel free to call or email if you wish to discuss this further.
Ted's seat
I created a little political cartoon to add clarity to this heated race.
http://masslpa.org/sites/default/files/US_senate_debate4.jpg
That is
GREAT!!!!
A classic for sure.
Support Libertarian Joe Kennedy in our poll!
Support Libertarian Joe Kennedy in our poll!
posted by Staff on Jan 15, 2010
Dear Friend of Liberty,
I hope you'll show your support for Libertarian Party member Joe Kennedy by voting in our website poll. See: http://www.lp.org Joe Kennedy is running for U.S. Senator in the special election on Tuesday, January 19, in Massachusetts.
By running for office, Joe Kennedy has caused the press and his opponents to cover important Libertarian issues, and voters are hearing how Democrats and Republicans have failed to deliver Libertarian policies.
How many times have you heard Libertarians claim that the mainstream media won't cover our candidates? Well, here are some examples of recent coverage of Joe Kennedy:
WBUR
San Francisco Chronicle
Washington Post
New York Times
And here are links to two of the broadcast debates that Joe Kennedy appeared in:
Boston Talks 96.9
WBZ-TV
I hope you'll take a look at this press release, which I sent earlier today.
Sincerely,
Wes Benedict
Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee
P.S. If you have not yet become a member of the Libertarian Party and wish to do so, please click here: https://www.lp.org/membership and join the only political party dedicated to free markets and civil liberties. If you need to renew, please click here: https://www.lp.org/membership If you would like to make a contribution separate from membership, please click here:
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Please vote for Joe in the poll that counts
And bring some friends on Tuesday
Free includes debt-free!
I thought Joe was running as an independent,
not a libertarian. He must have a reason for this, Wes Benedict.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
Here's a recent video
Here's a recent video interview of Joe Kennedy.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2010/01/13/Broadside-Joe...
Hey Joe, Don't answer hypotheticals. You are in the race to win!
As for health care, speak to what you know you would do. Let Scott do his own campaigning.
Joe Kennedy reader at Daily Paul
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/121745#comment-1309842
Free includes debt-free!
That just figures...
Remember how the RNC treated Ron Paul delegates at the convention.
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Kennedy is by far the best candidate;
it is deeply disturbing that the entrenched power mob can so easily knock off an independent. This should receive major publicity.
Today I heard Joe Kennedy say
that he believes a third party will arise and it will come from New England.
Me, I'm looking ten years down the road.
I'll be voting for Joe Kennedy this Tuesday. Because principles matter.
principles matter
"principles matter"
That's why I voted for Chuck Baldwin in the last pres. election, and Badnarik the time before. Of the choices on the ballot, they most closely support my principles.
My principles matter.
http://FlipFlopRomney.blogspot.com
here here!
here here!
Thursday - War All The Time
I voted for Chuck Baldwin
I voted for Chuck Baldwin last election for the same reason. We cannot expect change in our officials if we are not willing to vote our conscience and deal with the consequences. Status quo begats status quo.
The wave will get bigger
Everyone here knows that Ron Paul has created a wave to attention in the eyes of people around this country. Yet still, as has been obvious in this campaign, the media, and the right and left still refuse to give any respect or attention to 3rd party canidates, especially here in MA, which is odd being that a huge portion of the citizens are declared independent.
The only way to get the system to change, is to get away from this ridiculous argument of wasted votes, or voting for the less of 2 evils, when there is a 3rd choice which is neither evil or a waste. Why is it not a waste, you may ask? With every vote that these independent candidates get, the wave Ron Paul and the few before him have created, gets higher and faster. This wave, once it gets tall and fast enough, will make it so 3rd party canidates can no never again be pushed to the sidelines.
This is the ONLY way things are going to change. Voting for Brown will change nothing! He will not stop the health care bill.. there will just be another payed off senator that will fill the lost yes vote. Its going to pass, in some form. You should know this. And, we just got rid of most of the neocons, and now you want more? And Coakley, well obviously shes not worth a vote.
Voting for Kennedy is not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do if you want to effect real change from the status quo in DC. Even if it may not be a vote for who will become senator, it will still be a winning vote in the long run. Building up that tsunami of 3rd party support is crucial, if in the next 2 years we hope to have our ideas effect real political change enough to have a win in 2012.
Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts
ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."
Your Wave Theory ..
Your wave theory is part fiction and part fantasy. Human nature doesnt work that way. At best its every seventh wave but then the eigth reverts to the norm.
Facts on the ground in Mass today are these.
A media driven frenzy is currently sweeping a lot of grass root momentum in the direction of Scott Brown. Be he a dog or a cow or pig is completely irrelevant.
The point is if Brown actualy does win the people will suddenly feel empowered, this wasnt supposed to happen, Coakly is the annointed Kennedy succesor and that is all we are supposed to need to know for the rest of our miserable lives.
But it didnt play out that way (yet) and the way the story line has played out will leave people thinking that the grass roots wrote history instead of waiting to see it on the 6 oclock news (even though behind the scenes the national GOP has called every shot). And Brown will be a nobody, a whining minority senator with no seniority or real future. He was a caricature, a poster boy for the "cant realy be linked to Bush" neocon.
And I will vote for him as will everyone I know.
In the end the only lasting result will be that people will FOR ONCE feel empowered and that is a good thing, no? Think about that, a confident informed general public.
On the other hand if Brown is
On the other hand if Brown is elected he will add to the ranks of the neocons and he will be imbedded in the GOP so deep it will be difficult for "We the People" to get rid of his sorry ass.
As for Coakley, if the election is close and she wins, she will be blamed for everything that comes down the pike -- which will give our movement an opportunity to replace her after six years (or less) with someone like Joe Kennedy.
IMHO, Brown and Coakley's appeal is stuck in the past. They are not part of the future. The current polls show that the good folks in Mass are beginning to wake up.
MSM will make them feel empowered. The word is suckered.
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Free includes debt-free!
So you admit he's a neo con
but you consider the people voting for him "informed"?
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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Most people in Massachusetts are VERY far left. So far left that they consider themselves independent thinkers and therefore register that way.
Be sure that the battle in Massachusetts is against the status quo, we have had 3 convicted state senators in the past 3 years. 2 speakers of the house indicted and thrown out of beacon hill. A inept Attorney General who constantly puts her career before her job, we literally have to rely on the feds to weed out corruption.
In massachusetts Republicans are the severe Minority, and to put it frankly as much as I love the freedom movement, here in Massachusetts our movement isn't politically viable yet.
Remember, we are the hub for welfare in this country.
A Scott Brown victory will break the backs of this states democratic establishment. Luckily, we have to balance our budget so there is no deficit spending.
But what the pols do here in mass is spend and tax.
Yet.. people are ok with this.
Hmm ..
You are correct. I was thinking that the empowered part was a stand alone as in something that has never before happened, but you want it all now, I see ... dethroning the Kennedy machine in Massachusetts isnt anything noteworthy and we should feel much more satisfied seeing another also ran get a few thousand votes as a meaningless footnote while choking down cap and trade and the comprehnsive immigration reform.
I guess you are right.
We would all be better off writing in our own name and then go home and dress up in revolutionary war costumes and going out back to play in the sandbox.
Hmm ..
You do realize what a TINY minority we are in any electorate, particularly in Massachusetts?
So, according to your
So, according to your explanation of my fantasy theory, nothing good will come of voting for who you see as a waste of a vote.
I guess given this theory, Ross Perot's losing campaign in 96 did little to bolster and further legitimize the independent movement, and did little to effect change that term.
I guess Jesse Ventura should have dropped out of the gov race, cause he had less than 5% of the polled votes....
And given your theory, getting involved in RP's campaign, and my subsequent 3rd party selection, was a waste of a vote, and all this did little to bolster the Liberty, and constitutional movements.
These 3 underdogs all made a major contribution to our movement that have brought the liberty and independent wave to a level not seen in many years, even though 2 of them lost.
I recall in 08 having this very same debate with someone who was giving me the same argument as you, but to vote for Obama. "why waste your vote on RP, he wont win?", "a vote for him will do nothing for the future", "Just vote for obama, he'll give us change too".. Yeah, well we've all seen how well that's gone. Glad to say i voted for principle back then, and i will do it again this time around.
Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts
ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."
You Could Believe
You Could beleive that;
"(these 3 underdogs) have brought the liberty and independent wave to a level not seen in many years"
if you chose to, but to do so would be exposing your youth. Chronologicaly the independant movement reached its PEAK at the start of your first examples campaign in 1991 when Perot actualy polled competativly. Unfortunatly once his campaign got rolling and ever since then its been straight downhill. Most recently we polled 3 or 4 percent within the underdog party.
Whatever you see in terms of energy is a function of unprecedented levels of bad government that people are instinctively pushing back against, not because of any "movement". This energy can be funneled or squandered, time will tell but if history repeats ....
As far as contributions made, I will agree with you to some extent. Perot gave us a party that qualified for federal matching and ballot access but Buchanon subsequently destroyed it along with a lot of hopes energy and goodwill.
Ventura threw in the towel and walked away a quiter.
But Ron Paul gave us an actual cohesive philosophy and that is precious. He did tell us to keep the fight within the GOP when none (or many) of us were even registered GOP. Why does he think this is important and why do you feel you know better?
RP also wanted us to keep the
I think RP wanted us to keep the fight for the GOP in order to influence the party towards focusing on liberty, and constitutionally limited government. Given Browns voting record, he doesnt seem to be the type of GOP politician that would effect that type of change.
You are right, my youth has been shown in my examples, but my youth also gives me a different perspective on new folks that are my age, joining the liberty movement. Though you are right, most of the movement and energy towards "change" was due to bad government, and overwhelming frustration with the system. These are all things i was feeling when i first discovered Libertarians, and RP. But, if it weren't for the new wave of independent and 3rd party candidates, both locally and nationally, discussing libertarian ideals like small government and non intervention, i wouldn't have so easily found sites like this, i wouldn't have been so interested in the ideas RP, you and everyone else here discuss, ideas which seemed so foreign here in MA for someone my age growing up in an overly liberal state, to the point of not even knowing they existed. I really would be lost. Political frustrations left me down and out, and from my politically uneducated stanting point, with no obvious place to go. if it werent for this wave focusing my attention on looking outside the mainstream box , i probably would have been sucked into that void of youth that could care less about voting and politics.
Maybe my theory is wrong when applied to the country as a whole or even the state as a whole , but from my prospective this increase in attention given to 3rd party candidates over the last few decades and the resulting increased wave of discussion nationally of their political ideals is a big part of what lead me here and to the political stance im at today.
Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts
ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."
All We Have Are Opinions
All we can do is do what we can and hope that its for the best.
I have been watching third party waves come and go for awhile and was left entirely disalusioned with the entire poltical process.
That was until I studied Ron Pauls approach which, although a long shot, appears to me to be feasible within a reasonable time frame and also avoids the entirely undesired step of having to go through an ugly violent upheaval to dispalce the powers that be.
Rather than spend our entire lifetimes trying to break down the wall and dismantle the 2 party system, it makes way more sense to utilize that system as it exists, by infiltrating and taking over one of the parties. Why kick down the wall when the door is open?
I can remember back in my younger days having friends who would get their names onto the ballot simply by deciding to run as republicans. It seemed pointless because they would get killed in the election, but even then it was obvious that if you wanted the GOP spot on the ballot, you could have it just by asking.
Thats what a joke the GOP is in Mass, it is a virtual third party but enjoys the "status" of a major party and the media attention that comes with that.
Dont let your energy get diverted. Vote for who you want to but keep your energy focused on the task.
As far as your vote Tuesday:
Ask yourself this question; when you wake up Wednesday would you be at all dissapointed to find yourself reading excerpts from Coaklies victory speach, about all the wonderful legislation she will help jam through just because it is what we said we wanted?
Would that matter to you at all or would you feel exactly the same as if you read Brown won?
To me that would most definatly be a huge disapointment, meaning that to me THIS TIME AROUND it realy does matter who wins, which is why I will vote like I will.
thanks nomad943, i do
thanks nomad943, i do appreciate everything you have been saying. A different perspective is always eye opening.
I can definitely see how going down this road could lead to disillusion. I guess politics has a tendency to do that.
"keeping your energy focused on the task" is great advice that everyone should take.
Yet, its my opinion going by their voting history, that if/when Brown or Coakley win, they are both going to promote expansion of government, more spending, more war, more regulation and more of everything i don't want. I just cant vote for that.
Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts
ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."
A focus on the long term
is necessary while standing by your ideological principles. Anyone who favors non-internvention should vote for Kennedy on Tuesday.
Perhaps ask the GOP for a
Perhaps ask the GOP for a good faith effort to publish the death threat e-mails and talk about them on TV, before we give them even one inch of our support.
He should publish those messages.
It's a great way to embarrass the hell out of any cretin who tries to intimidate you with e-mail. Let's see them, with full headers.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
I think a deal can be made
that if Kennedy gives his support to Brown he will be given inclusion to a said number of debates in prime time against Brown in the next election.