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Not enough freedom on Daily Paul

I would love to post a picture, or a video on Daily Paul, but it appears I cannot. I suppose only a select few people can do that. People who are part of the "higher ups" and "really KNOW" the truth. I supposed I don't know "enough" truth to post pics or videos here. I would love to post chemtrail pictures form my own camera but I can't do that either even if they're hosted on another server. I can't post a video hosted somewhere else either.

Not enough freedom on Daily Paul.

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Totally! Then again, you're


Then again, you're being a little hypocritical. If I wanted to put a trojan horse on your computer, your firewall might not let me. Why are you being such a nazi? I should have the freedom to do whatever the hell I want you computer!

create your own site and see

how hard it is...

you have no clue!

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Michael has done a tremendous job of allowing us to print whatever we want here, with just a few exceptions. I know most if not all of my posts have cleared any of the moderators, and Michael, and I know that some of my posts can be at the far right extreme sometimes. I am thank for this site, and the ability to voice my opinions, and as they say about opinions, they are like axx-holes, everyone has one. So once again, I say this site is honorable, and fuels the Liberty cause for the citizens of our nation. Once again, I say "Citizens" of our nation, and it's sovereignty.

Good grief

it is hard enough just to keep the site up, this last week much less deal with this. Give the man a break and be grateful he let us even discuss these things. Why, put this extra stress on him?

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Lemme see


Seems all right to me.

Defend Liberty!

I think it's about bandwidth, freedomnyms

rather than censorship of the subject. Michael himself has posted on the subject before (even using a picture).


I take the subject very seriously as I am currently in an area where we get hit with them quite often. Many in the area feel sick from them, and even get nosebleeds (as I have). If you don't think the government would ever do any harm to us from the skies (just through our water, food, medication, and vaccinations right?) have a look at these:

Operation bacterium - secret biological warfare tests on the public

It would have been hard to pick them out of a crowd: average-looking men walking through Washington's National Airport, carrying suitcases. But the men were agents of the United States Army, and the suitcases were something out of a James Bond movie--disguised atomizers which imperceptibly sprayed unsuspecting travelers with a bacteria-laden mist. The undercover operation, which took place in 1964-65, was part of a nationwide program of so-called 'vulnerability' testing designed to gauge the impact of an enemy-launched epidemic of smallpox.
For 20 years ending in 1969, the Army staged hundreds of these secret germ 'attacks' in a number of cities, using microorganisms the Pentagon claimed were harmless to humans. It wasn't until 1977, during a hearing before the Senate, that civilian experts suggested that vulnerability testing may have caused outbreaks of disease which occured in some of the test areas...


Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.
A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.
Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.
While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.
The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution...


Video: Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

we are the Remnant


'Not enough freedom on the Daily Paul'...That's about the most ridiculous thread title I've ever seen here. Endless counter productive theads about Bigfoot and Chemtrails..it never ends..Michael just let's it slide. I've just broken my own rule about posting on threads I know are counter productive...but that title...come on.

i don't know what chemtrails

i don't know what chemtrails are but i do know that there are a whole lot of vapor trails in the sky created from jet engines. there are so many of these "clouds" that it affects the amount of sunlight (radiation) that reaches earth and bounces back out. 9/11 (don't start with truther vs. non-truther discussion here) caused a shut down in commercial air traffic and scientist actually collected data on 9/12 showing a higher daytime temp (more sunlight reaching earth) and a lower nighttime temp (less of this energy being retained buy a cloud "blanket") than normal. just though it was interesting enough to share.

i DO NOT DOUBT that there is technology to disperse chemicals in the air from aircraft, but i also need to point out that the trails appear because of water vapor in the engine exhaust of jets. the reason you see lots of them now and you never saw any as a kid is because we have lots of jets flying high in the atmosphere now and when most of you were kids we didn't.

I know what you are talking about wdosmer

it's referred to as "global dimming". I've seen a documentary on it on the BBC years ago.

Regarding contrails vs chemtrails, they are positively different. I have seen contrails from a plane fly through chemtrails. It is certainly not about altitude.

I would be quite relieved to know they are just contrails. But they most definitely are not.

we are the Remnant

Explain it to these guys

They think their planes are spraying stuff. ;)

Just link it...

I've been chasing the chemtrail trail for over 11 years.. I just post links. Save Michael some bandwidth.



I don't understand why

I don't understand why Michael doesn't whack all the chemtrail threads and ban those who persist in posting them. There are other off-topic subjects that I would love to see banned. But it's Michael's site, and what he wants is what goes.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

...Yea, it is Michael's site...

...and in case you have not seen his DP Posting Guidelines...(Link is on the right side of the Home Page above the Active forum topics)...Here is:
..."The ongoing purpose of this site has therefore become
1)to keep Dr.Paul's message and ideas alive,
2)an open forum for the HONEST DISCUSSION OF IDEAS and THE SEARCH FOR TRUTH, and
3)to share, practice and spread these ideas as far and wide as possible in the world we live in."
...I am sure that "chemtrails" and other topics such as "H.A.A.R.P.", "global warming/cooling/climate change" and "weather control" clearly fall within the bounds of #2) above as "the honest discussion of ideas and the search for truth"...

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
+GOLD and SILVER are money+

"...DAILY FOIL..."

...Maybe we could have a place here at DAILY PAUL for such "conspiracy theories" which some say have nothing to do with Ron Paul and his freedom message, say a dedicated Thread and call it...
"...DAILY FOIL..." ;)

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
+GOLD and SILVER are money+

great idea!

and we should have anyone who
speaks of these wacky conspiracies
tarred and feathered.


...I was actually being serious...
...in a tongue n' cheek sort of way...
...By having a "DAILY FOIL" dedicated thread area here on DAILY PAUL, it would allow a place where stuff like chemtrails, weather modification, H.A.A.R.P., and such "wacky theories" could be discussed and shared specifically, and if any such topics were posted outside that area, instead, here, the decision and act of modding those topics off here and back to the "DAILY FOIL" would be more favorably received by everyone involved...
...I think it is important to allow such discourse, on such "Tin-foil" subjects (some would claim) within Michaels posting guidelines...because clearly, such topics do generate discourse and discussion in the search for the truth...even Michael has posted on the subject of "chemtrails" here...
...It is a "grey" area to be sure, but one thing I found to be so great about DAILY PAUL is the shear amount of diverse input by everyone and the ability to follow whatever you want to however much of a conclusion the posted comments and info allow...
...Posts will thrive or wither depending on the interest it generates...a self-regulating occurance which I notice is in fact playing itself out here and working well everyday here at DAILY PAUL...and is a great strength of the site...
...I think by having a place like "DAILY FOIL",(or whatever it would be called) would, as DAILY PAUL does, self-regulate itself and generally only content that had merit would cause the topics there to thrive or wither...
...Anyway, I love the site as it is, but notice alot of friction when it comes to this subject of what should be talked about here and what should be talked about elsewere...this is just my humble suggestion at a way to accomodate both sides of the issue while keeping more folks in the DAILY PAUL tent so to speak...
...As if Michael has not been accomodating enough... ;)
...If you happen to read my suggestive rant Michael, please know that it is done so in the spirit of helping...
...Thank you for DAILY PAUL...

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
+GOLD and SILVER are money+

When your town gets inundated with them...

You will stop thinking that observation of chemtrails is a "wacky theory"

I have no theories...just observations.

...sorry for not being clear on where I stand on the subject...

...When I say "wacky theory",I mean it the way some folks think of the subject...
...I am not one of them...
I am convinced that "chemtrails" exist...I have seen them...I have seen cloud formations that defy common sense explainations...(afew months ago,I saw four circular - and I mean perfectly formed circular patterns within widespread,flat,slow moving cloud cover,like some kind of energy was beamed into the clouds to form them,afew overlapped each other)...I wish I had a camera...
...I am convinced H.A.A.R.P. and similiar technology is being used and developed to control the weather and control/cause geological events such as earthquakes...
...It is a serious subject,however,I refuse to let anything kill my laughter...which explains my tongue n' cheek name for the dedicated thread "DAILY FOIL"...as in "Tin-Foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts"...(o.k., if they say so),I am one of them...But that won't change my convictions on the subject...so I'll have alittle fun at their expense...

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
+GOLD and SILVER are money+

anything so SECRET and so pervasive

Anything so SECRET and so pervasive has a big political story linked to it. And it ain't for our better health.

We need to keep up the pressure.


I agree we shouldn't be way

I agree we shouldn't be way "out there" on the site and seem like lunatics.

I don't know where you guys live, but chemtrails have been upped massively lately. When was the last time it was sunny for a week? Or even past lunch? This is psycho stuff. I found a video which I am happy to link to, which is called "smart dust" http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=smart+dust&searc...

If you believe in the Book of Revelation about floods, earthquakes, and all that stuff... who is to say that it is not the "wrath" of God but they are in fact man made and done on purpose.

I also understand that not everyone can post a video. I am just not sure I understand why we can't put in the embed code from Google Video or something. I know some vBulletin forums where if you post the web address it automatically embeds it from youtube, etc. and won't affect bandwidth here. I know from my own marketing efforts on the internet that we live in an instant gratification society so posting a link sometimes does almost nothing. You have to actually embed it. Hardly anyone clicks. You can also vote on peoples' comments with a good or a groan. Perhaps you need a certain amount of good comments to post a video?

also Michael, thank you for your Daily Paul postcard I received for donating to your site.

Since when was the "truth"

Since when was the "truth" considered out there? Look up at the sky, not between your tail! lol

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

I can see them coordinating events

to make it LOOK like they are fulfilling as many prophecies as possible..in fact i wouldn't be surprised to see a false antichrist, a false mark of the beast and a false false prophet...the level of deception is that high with this bunch..


I think they even have the NFL in their pocket.

Have y'all seen the Saint's this year?



Just sayin again, since someone deleted my comment.

Total freedom would, as previously stated, pose a security

risk to the Daily Paul.

I am open to the discuss the metaphorical and ideological implications of that in relation to the world at large.


Alex Jones has enough room

Alex Jones has enough room for you on infowars if you so desire. We here at the Daily Paul are about freedom, liberty, and the Constitution. That's it.

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Freedom is not Free

In any case, what the hell does the Ron Paul movement have to do with chemtrails? Posting chemtrail threads isn't enough?

Freedom, following the Constitution, elections, monetary systems, web issues and even a conspiracy theory or two are what we are about, but come on. I don't think Ron Paul has ever said the word "chemtrail."

Let's get back to reality please.

I agree.

Since Ron Paul is a politician, and politicians do not breathe the air, nor look up into the sky, then we should not either.

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Tell Alex Jones about it. He has the bandwidth to deal with ...

chemtrails. Imagine Alex Jones asking Ron Paul detailed questions about chemtrails during his monthly radio interview?
Ron Paul would say that there are other more pressing issues to discuss.

Are there any bills in Congress about chemtrails? I do not think so.

Cap and trade: yes
Healthcare: yes
Guns: yes

There is a lot of stuff to discuss here.
That is all I am saying.

Why take up DP bandwidth with chemtrail videos?

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I recommend...


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