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rhino: Zionism & Israeli 'State Terrorism' - Political Third Rail or Long Overdue Debate?

The "left" (i.e. progressives) is addressing this topic appropriately.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7640

Winograd v. Harman race turns white hot over Winograd's call for peace through an Israel/Palestine 'one-state' solution...
Guest essay by Ernest A. Canning

Had Marcy Winograd simply chosen to denounce violence, both individual and state-based; had she objected to the oppressive nature of Iran's theocratic regime, or, during the 1980s, denounced a South African regime mired in racist apartheid, few would so much as raise an eyebrow.

Winograd's Feb. 15, 2008 speech, "Call For One State", delivered at the Friends of Sabeel Conference on behalf of L.A. Jews for Peace, however, was not merely directed against violence per se or against nations who permit a disparity in the rights of their citizens on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion. She denounced all forms of violence, including "Israeli state terrorism;" asserted that Israel had rendered a two-state solution all but impossible, and said she favored a "one state solution" because you "cannot establish a democracy in a state founded on the institutionalized superiority or exclusivity of one of religion, ethnicity or culture."

In doing so, the Progressive Democrats of America (PDA)-endorsed Winograd, now seeking to unseat a wealthy seven term 'Blue Dog' Democrat, Jane Harman (D-CA36), touched what many see as a third rail in American politics.

The real question is whether American criticism of Israel should continue to be a political third rail or whether the courage to challenge "the bipartisan mainstream" consensus is long overdue...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7640



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Declaration of Independence

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Process/Guide+to+the+Peace+P...

if the US Declaration of Independence is valid, so is it of Israel's.
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Of course ...

but what does that have to do with us?

Everything of course ... because of our foreign policy and our foreign aid.

That is why the debate does not get the real attention that it deserves.

But this race in california is a great platform to discuss the issues outside of the bigotry and racism.

if...

Israel's sovereignty can be debated, then US sovereignty can be debated. i don't hear anyone doing that. the fact that the US has been through many wars and the territory of the US has grown from 13 colonies since the US Declaration of Independence is not considered, but only Israeli changes since it's Declaration of Independence (even though it was Israel that was attacked). Should war crimes be charged against the US for defending itself & growing over 200 years? the discussions of anti-"Zionists" are ridiculous and only want to see Hitler's & Muslim's "final solution" of Israel to take place.
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

That was discussed in the article and is worthy of debate ...

Having said that ...

The racist and white elitism that pushed the "manifest destiny" policy cannot be justification for zionism.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

The article rightly points out that the fears of the halucost and the radical views of the region against Jews are pushing the zionist movement forward.

In other words ...

Both sides are acting on fear and irrational behavior which never is at the core of a just and right policy.

Israel's war crimes

Pictures of an Israeli attack on a Palestinian School.

- Warning graphic photo's

GAZA Masacre By Israel
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/gaza-horror-large-p...

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

Sick, evil, emotional ... yes.

But this kind of post is why I take the stand I do here at dp regarding zionism.

Can we stick to the topic and not try to gin up hatred?

Did you even read former President Carter's remarks in the link?

Jeesh.