Massachusetts Votes! Kennedy vs. Brown/Coakley: Open Thread

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Polls in Massachusetts open at 7am.

8pm Update: Time to do the couch potato thing and watch the votes roll in...Boston Globe - Real Time Results

3pm Update: I voted Kennedy. His party affiliation was listed on the ballot as "Liberty," which was nice.

This is the biggest turnout ever for a special election in Massachusetts. I was talking to my liberal friend J on the phone as I walked to my polling location. He told me there was a small line where he voted in Lexington. He went whole hog for Obama in 2008 - drank the Kool Aid right up and loved it - and is now regretting it big time. He still voted for Coakley in spite of the fact that "she has all the charisma of John Kerry on anti-steroids." J is pretty funny. I told him I'd keep working on him, and I'd get him around to seeing the light on Ron Paul by 2012.

As I approached the polling place, I saw a huge crowd of people out front - could it be that this many people were waiting to vote? I've never in my life had to wait at my polling place to vote.

As it turns out, the crows was just a bunch of parents waiting to pick their kids up from school. It was 2:15, and the voting place is the gymnasium of a grade school. It was completely empty, aside from the workers. There were more workers than voters. I strolled right up to get my ballot and was out of there in 2 minutes. There was only one question on the ballot.

I voted for the one who best represents me. I make no excuses or qualifications.

The wintry mix continues - now more rain than snow. The slush on the side of the roads is half-melted, making walking treacherous. It is a mess out there.

10am Update: It is snowing in Boston - Big, white, heavy flakes. No accumulation on the street so far, but today's forecast calls for the dreaded and miserable "wintry mix." This should favor Kennedy

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My friend Matt Davidson is having an in studio debate on his Real News Show on WMBR Boston, MIT student radio. East Boston resident Renato D'Amico (voting for Scott Brown) will debate Garrett Kirkland and Frank Capone of Medford (voting for Joe Kennedy). The show runs from 6 - 8am. Anyone is welcome to call in and take part in the debate. You can stream it live here, or listen to the podcast, which will be up later in the day.

Post your comments, observations & rants throughout the day below. Polls close at 8pm.

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Boston Globe called it 8 hours early

I was on the Boston Globe site(which was over loaded)and watched the tally come in and they had Coakley as the winner 50% to 49% as the final and as this article says they took it off.I was watching the counts change from Brown to Coakley after the counts were done,Wild!
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/01/boston-globe-calls-massac...

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Mass already has Obamacare / Romneycare

John Stewart made an interesting observation; all of us in Massachusetts presumably voting Brown in to stop universal healthcare ALREADY have universal/mandatory insurance. Funny vicotory for the Republicans.

The only real positive I see out of this is that we needn't presume that Massachusetts is a gimme for Democrats. I live on the Mass/New Hampshire border, and come election time nobody even campaigns here or has a yard sign because it has been a forgone conclusion that the dems wins. A mile north in NH every single lawn has a sign in it.

Hopefully all of the slam-dunk certainty for both 'locked in' red and blue states starts to crumble, and maybe, like in a decade, anyone could possibly get elected anywhere if they have the right ideas.

Otherwise we all lost as expected. Brown=Coakly=sux. I was the one guy who voted Kennedy apparently. I hope they didn't go to much trouble putting his name on all of those ballots just for me. ;-)

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It Wasnt Just For You ..

The name was on the ballot to complete the illusion of democracy. Think of it as a great big Hollywood set complete with cool special effects. Hope you enjoyed the show since you paid for it.
Now back to that vote counting ...
Did anyone read the latest news capsule from BBV?
What is with all of those late vote returns and strange anomolies? Probably nothing we are told, but why do we all mindlessly continue to push our ballots into those mystery machines anyhow? Just a guess but I still think that when the revolution comes to town, TV will be most reluctant to call the winner.

Ugh, a Scott quote...

"We don't grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. The message we send to terrorists is that our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them," he said. "Giving rights to terrorists is unacceptable."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=122548

Real eyes realize real lies

2012, we want our country back

2012 is the year for Ron Paul!

MSM Report: http://www.msmreport.com/

Since I am a terrorist according to the government

because I believe in a strict interpretation of the Constitution, this scares me.

*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*

As predicted the neocons

As predicted the neocons across the country -- in and out of government -- will take the Brown win as an endorsement of the never ending wars. Those neocons running for reelection this year will wake up in November when they learn their fate.

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So discouraged :(

Brown was FOR romneycare WTF!!! The liberty movement really needs some form of leader and defined platform, otherwise it'll just be this idiocy over and over and over and over until our currency is destroyed and we are bankrupt, engulfed in a full blown surveillance police state.

*sigh*

I wonder how well Kennedy would have done had he went with an R in front of his name. I just friggin hate politics :(

Good News

This effectively shuts down the federal government until November or possibly longer. I'd rather have those weasels in Congress doing nothing than be busy finding new ways to tax us and take away more of our freedoms.

Gridlock Rules ..

Lock them all in the basement until Novemeber ...

They are weasels for sure...

and I would rather they spend money like they do on their normal garbage junk, than making rash decisions, and then placing it on the citizens of this Country as they have been trying to do with quite a bit lately, especially this healthcare for all crap.

Idiot Voters

Senators are supposed to be hand selected representatives, not popularity puppets of fraudulent money and media.

Of course, it shouldn't even matter who is elected, because they are all sworn to follow the same law. That's their job, not legislating their opinions.

Hand picked by whom?

Politicians? Most senators work up through the State system and are hand-selected anyway. Do you think any sitting governor or state legislature would pick Peter Schiff or Rand Paul?

Gives the states and their legislatures a say in the Union

Buying the election of hundreds of state legislators and then buying off the legislaors themselves makes it a Republic.

The Electoral College is the last vestige of the Republic we have left.

Free includes debt-free!

I'm just not sure I like or want elite rule any more

It's getting really old. I have no reason to believe that suddenly corrupt crimnals will stop running the show if they get more ability to do whatever they want.

The founding fathers understood factions would arise

Their plan was to pit factions against each other.

In a Constitutionaly limited government, where the state acted as referee and umpire, is the key.

If there was little or no financial advantage to be gained by special (unConstitutional) arrangements. There would be no pigs at the trough.

Should we aim at anything less?

Free includes debt-free!

Repeal the 17th Amendment

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Free includes debt-free!

You've got to go to the second level

which is your state representatives. Tell them nullify unconstitutional crap flowing through the sewer from Washington to where ever it is you may be.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

I say victory.

Throughout the day, there have been a lot of comments rejecting Brown’s victory as a step backwards for the freedom movement. I must respectfully disagree.

In my opinion, this is pretty simple: people are upset with government (namely healthcare) and they voted for their best option to stop it. I say, that’s a victory!

With all respect to Kennedy (and yes, he would have been better than Brown), the freedom fight will not be won by a 3rd party dissenter who squeaks out 2 or 3 or 4 percentage points.

The freedom fight will be WON by sending liberty minded candidates out of the primaries (both R and D).

Let Brown’s victory serve as motivation for us for 2010. The country (misguided as it is) is thirsty for LIBERTY. Let it be OUR job to give them liberty candidates to vote for in 2010 general elections.

salberty...

All I can say is I agree with you. Why would anyone be upset about this win, didn't Ron Paul endorse Brown? If Ron Paul in deed support this candidate Brown, everyone on this site should be very happy for the win, unless you think Paul is no longer the candidate of Liberty, and our Constitution.

Same opinion about ending war was held by Democratic voters '08

Here read some stuff not from the MSM.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/122047

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I don't follow...

Are you suggesting that becase Obama's election didn't end the war, then it logically follows that Brown's election won't hault government health care?

That seems kind of silly. Just because previous optimism in an election result turned out to be misplaced does not guarantee that all future optimism in an election result is guaranteed to be misplaced.

Look, we may very well still get government health care, but not because Obama didn't end the war...

Let me restate my main point: Today we learned that even in the bluest of states, government control of our lives (specifically in health care) is not popular. That's great news. Rather than spend our time concerned whether the 3rd party candidate gets 1 or 2% of the vote, we should focus all effort on getting freedom minded candidates out of the primaries.

BTW, the bulk of my news comes from the DP, but thanks for the link.

If we are happy with warm fuzzy victories nothing changes

I've watched 20 election cycles, nothing changes, much.

You are correct, we must move into the two party system and get good people through the primaries.

Free includes debt-free!

Here is some history to consider.

They are planning to build Health care into a government cartel. This is how they did it for the Federal Reserve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta7q1amDAN4

CAFR Health Care is a new fund to add to the list.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2860538828528453481&...

Brown helped to this for MA. Why not again.

Free includes debt-free!

Anti Establishment

You should here all the crying going on over at the Huffington Post. The referendum on incumbents continues.

O rly? I can't wait to vote

O rly? I can't wait to vote out the No Child Left Behind author and incumbent John Boehner. I am glad to hear that there is a big tea party movement to support his democratic opponent :/

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OBAMA - Lost in Virgina * New Jersey & Now

Massachusetts - bet he's hitting that Whiskey hard tonight

Now get busy fixing the important stuff -

* Bring home them TROOPS

* Fix the dam Economy

Vote the Incumbent Lying Bastards Out - The Lot!

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So Clown B beat Clown A.

So Clown B beat Clown A. Does this really matter as much as the establishment press makes it out to be? As a general rule, I believe the opposite of whatever the corporate state media tells me to believe. Which leads me to believe that Clown B will make no difference whatsoever and will happily go along with government takeover of the medical industry, for starters. Am I wrong?

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Well at least Clown B...

won't be a nazi and make healthcare a mandate, that is all I can say on that issue. Unfortunately, Americans have been asleep for a few decades, myself included, and it is going to take a while before we have limited government controls, and the right government in office to represent us. I do not support all that this Scott Brown believes or wants, but the health care bill is a biggy for me, and if he can stop this from going through, he has my support. Oh, and I hope that unconstitutional leader of the Senate Reid feels like crap tonight...