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Digg! Scott Brown 24-Hours Later! Health Care For Everyone!

!! DIGG IT !!

Watch it on C-span. Pay attention @ 5:31.

'We're past campaign mode. I think it's important for everyone to get some form of health care. So, to offer a basic plan for everybody, I think is important."

http://c-span.org/Watch/M...

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My favorite flip flop of all

My favorite flip flop of all time!

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

I don't

understand how the republicans didn't see that the joke was on them. They honestly thought Brown was some big victory. Research people. Research. I definately told some people so on that one.

Campaign's over,

I don't have to keep lying to get votes.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Everyone knew already

Everyone already knew that Brown was for health care reform and that he supported RomneyCare.

The current system does not offer people freedom of choice. Current federal laws regarding health insurers violate the commerce clause of the US Constitution in which one of the powers given the Federal government is to "regulate" commerce between the states. Nothing in the word regulate means "protect a monopoly."

It is my belief that Brown will work to facilitate health care between the states and pave thwe way for each state to effectively and efficiently implement their own version of RomneyCare if they so choose.

As a nation in an ever shrinking world, health care is an important aspect of national defense which cannot be ignored. If our predecessors on this continent had some form of health plan, the European colonizers would not have been able to unleash germ warfare through smallpox infected blankets. Shall we leave ourselves vulnerable to the next group of invaders? Nukes and guns and airport security cannot protect us from the inevitable invisible threat which will one day depopulate this continent once again and allow another foriegn invader to conquer it.

To me, this simply means

That the voters in Massachusetts are informed and aware to a degree that they can attempt to change the status quo, but they're not informed to the degree where they can make the right decisions. But the general direction is good. Like I mentioned under a different thread, Brown's timing election success struck fear with many establishment politicians and all of a sudden 13 democrats are panicking on Bernanke confirmation and there is now increased momentum for the Fed audit push before his final confirmation deadline. As for those who bicker among the liberty movement themselves on whether to vote for the lesser of the two evils. One, the impact of a minimal amount of votes is really just that--minimal, therefore it seems impractical to me to trade off principle for a marginal impact on the outcome, however if my one vote decides the election outcome, I will vote for the lesser of the two evils. And two: in the scenario in which the liberty movement itself is not pervasive enough that people still have to go back to the square one argument on whether to trade away principles, it seems that itself is a symptom that uninformed voters are still too vast, and energy is better focused on spreading the message, rather than bickering over an issue one has no control of. Those of us more informed above the crowd willingly place ourselves in an "unfair" situation where when it comes down to the voting booth, our votes take a toll on our sense of intellectual and moral responsibility if it is realized that a certain compromise have to be made for a marginally more desirable outcome. Like I mentioned however, the movement is not even at the point yet where that is really the question until we reach perhaps some 20% of the population. Save the debate for when that happens as we've only caught a glimpse of it so far. The best way is to simply grow the movement, so that circumstance can be avoided altogether, and that to me is a both principled and practical approach.

yes

i was 1 of the 20000

How to identify a member of the Tea Party in Massachusetts?

You didn't vote for Martha Coakley.

You didn't vote for Scott Brown.

You didn't fail to vote.

You voted for the issues. End the wars, audit the Fed, competing currencies, a balanced budget with free and open markets.

Over 20,000 Tea Party members raise their voices!

Free includes debt-free!

old news. ron paul said to

old news. ron paul said to get on the phoneto keep audit the fed from dying. it may be to late after tonite.

Audit the Fed is not QUITE

Audit the Fed is not QUITE dead yet...

I used to run a investment fund so I have a lot of friends in the finance world. The "conspiracy theories" are that the Federal Reserve and its primary dealers (GS, JPM, C) are propping up the stock market right now to keep the attention off of Wall Street for the time being.

They want to paint the picture of a (jobless) recovery, so that Congress will not feel the need to find a scappegoat / audit the Fed.

However, since QE (quantitative easing) is ending next month, the primary dealers may not have enough repo cash to continue propping up US stocks... If stocks take a tumble, then HR1207 will become a hot topic on Capitol Hill because the politicians will need to find someone (Fed) to blame!

As AbrahamNorway posted below, this thread is misleading

Scott Brown said all this same stuff before the election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEEQHOnI2Q

We'll he mustn't have said it well or often.

If he did, thousands of people who held their noses and voted for him sure didn't hear it.

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

He voted for the healthcare reform in MA

And that should have been enough to warn them, even without blatant comments like the ones he made in the debate video posted above.

We have too many ignorant voters, too many who are willing to hold their noses.

Yes, that should have been enough.

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Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Last time i checked, Ron Paul

Last time i checked, Ron Paul was for healthcare reform too. So whats the problem?

Why are we getting worked up over this? We have bigger battles to fight.

I meant the Massachusetts healthcare reform, specifically

Which led to citizens in that state being forced to buy insurance.

I live in massachusetts, if

I live in massachusetts, if you look at roll call, it passed with over 90% voting AYE. Scott's senate campaigns have always been really close and in a state like MA, it was do or die.

Some would say he did it so he could remain to fight another day.

I know, its a very poor excuse but MA politics are quite literally the most messed up one party bullshit ever.

Also, as a aside, if a state like massachusetts wants that kind of health reform I would support it, seeing as its a states rights issue. Its when you can't vote with your feet is when you have a problem.

This is evident in the congressional seat or two we are going to lose after the census.

The problem with states' rights

occurs when the representatives are representing their campaign donors, like Big Pharma, and not the people of the state.

I wonder if the 90% AYE vote reflects 90% of the citizens being in favor of the health care reform? If so, why were so many people apparently confused, thinking Scott Brown was against the federal healthcare bill (when, in essence, it does the same thing that the MA state bill does?) I mean, if 90% of MA citizens wanted MA healthcare reform, why would he campaign as if he is against healthcare??? That would be political suicide- if MA really WANTS these healthcare (insurance) mandates.

Well.. that's big media for

Well.. that's big media for you or ignorance. He has never said he against health care reform, just the bill in its current form with all the backroom dealings, handouts, etc.

I didn't

notice the digg link earlier...dugg @ 44...

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"Past campaign mode"??? What's that supposed to mean?

In his victory speech he kept saying "We can do better" - so he was never totally against a health care plan. And supposedly the people of Massachussetts don't like their Romney health care, it's too expensive, yet Romney was helping this guy on the QT, as was our buddy John McCain. So what's with that?

Debbie

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It means

Back to business as usual, i.e. say anything to get elected, do anything I want after being seated in office.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
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And just come right out and say so, how insulting to the voter

is that? I think he is Romney's man, and they are going to run Romney for Prez in 2012. Romney, if elected, will give Scott Brown some higher appointment for doing his "duty" as Senator.

Debbie

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#37

Not much interest in this Digg.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Oh look, voting for the other

Oh look, voting for the other party didn't work out for 10 billionth time.

LOL simple and to the point.

LOL simple and to the point. amen to that

Yes, but what if you keep

Yes, but what if you keep doing it over and over again and again till the approval rating of congress goes from the current 23% to about 75%?

Then they have even

less reason to do what the people want. They already keep their jobs no matter what they do.

Defend Liberty!

not a surprise.

establishment pig.

Scott Brown US Israeli Relationship

Standard operating procedure for vetting of acceptable Zionist candidates. I would use this position and not change a word if I were running for a top political office. A say one thing and do the opposite type of deal.

Position Paper on The United States - State of Israel Relationship
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/images/2010/01/scottbrownisrae...

Pretty soon

a paper like that may ( officially) be required for any political office!!! Another country should never have that much political influence over our domestic and foreign policy decisions.

I stand with Ron Paul on this issue. Ron Paul was one of the very few that voted NOT TO CONDEMN the Goldstone report. IMO , because Ron Paul stands by his principles of noninterventionism and would never write a paper like the one above, are the main reasons that he is purposely marginalized and would never be allowed a fair chance at Presidential run.

Ron Paul:
"I see no reason that our friendship with Israel cannot continue. I favor extending to Israel the same friendship that Jefferson and the Founding Fathers urged us to offer to all nations. But that also means no special privileges like foreign aid – a position I maintain vis-à-vis all other countries as well. That means I also favor discontinuing foreign aid to governments that are actual or potential enemies of Israel, which taken together receive much more American aid than Israel does."

Ron Paul~ Revolution A manifesto

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd