C4L: Please just post the dang responses from Buck? SURVEY IS NOW POSTED!!!!

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We will know what to do with them.

We can take this pile of kangaroo skat and put a whole truck load of lipstick on it, but we need those answers published.

Once we get the information ...

We will do what we do best.

Afterall ...

We all have our roles.

Here is a link to the CO survey on C4L.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/candidatesurvey.php?state=...

Quote from Bonnie Cannon (C4L Colorado HQ) at 5:45 on 1/29:

"I believe the survey results for CO will be posted shortly."

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=31973&cpg=1#...

Can somebody post the contact info for Bonnie so that I can call her and ask her if she has seen the survey filled out by Buck?

Update: I emailed Bonnie on the morning of 1/30 and asked her if she personally saw the responses from Buck. She has not replied.

Update #2 02/01: O.K., maybe we over reacted and to be honest, this whole situation is more about C4L than it is about Ken Buck. But I still don't know if I over reacted because I still have not seen Buck's survey. It is my humble opinion that the most reasonable conclusion as to why we have not seen that survey yet is that Mr. Tate has written an untruth, a falsehood, a lie. Now there are other possible reasons, but instead of debating what those reasons might be ....

"SHOW ME THE SURVEY!!!"

"SURVEY SAYS?????"

Sorry don't feed the bulldog but I will gladly eat crow if I am wrong because if I am right, we just took a two year step back unless Tate is removed.

UPDATE #3:

KEN BUCK'S SURVEY HAS BEEN POSTED. GREAT!!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.

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For the record ...

There were two additional surveys that were posted and then taken down right away.

Both of them scored as high or higher than Buck.

Why are they no longer posted?

Are there more?

I know a private organization should not be held to the same standard as the gov. regarding transparency, but can we at least lead by example?

How can we as the grassroots do our job and promote all the candidates that fill out the survey if we don't even know who filled them out?

I'm glad to see the results of the survey...

I wish the question on the eliminatiion of the IRS had been phrased differently. For example : Will you work toward the removal of the tax on work for pay, popularly known as the 'personal income tax?'

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer

That was a pretty cut and dry survey.

And it appears the one question Buck didn't answer (there was no "N" in that column) was #13 concerning abolishing the IRS.

Frankly, the IRS does collect taxes other than the so-called income tax, and it could be retained for those purposes. Of course, if we had NO internal taxes, then they wouldn't be needed. Import duties and apportioned taxes would be the better route to go. The Customs service can properly handle import duties, and the Treasury can take direct payment from the States for apportioned taxes.

But I understand why he would have skipped or answered no.

Though I am confused why he has a position on his website about remaining in Afghanistan, yet he answered yes to opposing using U.S. forces to occupy a nation without a Declaration of War.

Maybe contacting the Buck campaign for a clarification would be in order?

I just realized that there

I just realized that there wasnt a question on bringing our troops home. What a disgrace. this is not just some small mistake.

Ventura 2012

then what's #10?

#10: "Will you oppose using U.S. forces to occupy a foreign nation without a declaration of war?"

At the DC protest, Tate did not mention

the fifth principle of the C4L, non-interventionist foreign policy. He stated the first four, but no fifth.

I believe what they might be doing, is keeping a low profile on that because it is basically the dividing line. Maybe this way they figure they can get more people on board now and then slowly educate them along the way ...?

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I inquired into the Ken Buck Campaign for Liberty ad buy

This is the response I got:

Thank you for your concern.

The candidate featured in the Colorado ad answered 19 out of 20 questions correctly on our Campaign for Liberty candidate survey, and he has been publicly outspoken on Audit the Fed and an out of control federal government. He also answered the Foreign Policy questions and warrantless search question on our survey correctly.

We treat these surveys as a personal promise from the candidate as to how they will vote upon entering Congress. And I can guarantee you we will hold them accountable for their actions and responsible for how they presented themselves to us.

That being said, there is an even more important fact: The Colorado program was funded by a small number of Colorado activists. The funding for this program came ENTIRELY from this small group of new C4L donors.
Hope that helps.

Sincerely,

The Campaign for Liberty Team

Seems pretty cut and dried.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

bump

for transparency.

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His survey is now up.

You know what to do.

Sorry for doubting Mr. Tate's honesty.

Now we need to hold Mr. Buck accountable.

I dunno. That seems like a

I dunno. That seems like a bit of a tame apology after all of the rhetoric slinging that's been going on.

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I am on my hands and knees begging.

Is that better?

Bump for second update.

Oops

Edited: Saw there was already a thread on Ronnie Paul's statement.

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Mistakes were made,

it won't happen again,
we learned valuable lessons,
no heads will roll,
we must move forward with the same leadership.

Sounds like something you hear a gov't official say.

Well folks with all due

Well folks with all due respect, I say get out from behind your keyboards and get active in your own state C4L and do the job right.. easy as that.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

I hear that

"get out from behind your keyboards and get active in your own state C4L"

Looks like the Colorado C4L did some amazing fundraising to highlight an issue important to them - the candidate survey. Everyone should step up and get active in their state, rather than be so critical of a few C4L members that donated $ for their issue.

But it's easier to sit and

But it's easier to sit and snipe, and it takes far less courage ;)

Seems to be alot of "assuming" going on here

that people aren't already doing alot of activity in their areas.
Perhaps you aren't, but I am.

tick tock

tick tock

relax Rhino.. I know Bonnie

relax Rhino.. I know Bonnie and her husband Joel. Bonnie is a Gem! I have never seen anyone Fight for Ron Paul like she did in 08. So relax.. These people work full time jobs and are trying to make a living just like you and I.
SIERRAHPBT.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Not just about Bonnie not replying to rhino's email yet.

The results still are not posted on C4L website. Dunno who is responsible for doing that.

Hit reply ....

type "yes"

hit send.

That is all it takes.

I simply asked, "Did you personally see Ken's responses to the survey?"

That was it.

something else.. When I would

something else.. When I would send emails to Bonnie it would sometimes take her awhile to respond.. She knows me. I have been at her and Joels house many times. She may not even respond to someone she does not know.
There is only so much time in the day.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

so she is supposed to sit by

so she is supposed to sit by her computer waiting for anal rhino's email and answer it the second it appears in her inbox?

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

as I said she works full time

as I said she works full time at her job.. RELAX.. I would also be very willing to say if Bonnie supports Buck then we should also. Bonnie is the farthest thing from a neoconn you can find. I worked with her many hours during the 08 election cycle getting people in as delegates at the County, Congressional, and state level.
As I said... She is an absolute Gem. She has done more For Ron Paul then I have seen anyone do at the daily paul out side of Nystrom. She is also getting Candidates and delegates ready for our state elections.. SO FRIGGIN RELAX! The woman is TIRELESS when it comes to Ron Paul and Liberty.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Listen ...

Where are the responses?

Stop changing the subject.

I am sure she is Ron Paul's clone.

But where are the responses?

If everything is kosher ...

We are all going to make sure the world knows where he stands and he is going to have to campaign on this platform.

So ...

Where are his responses?

did you read the comments on

did you read the comments on the link you provided.. Buck may not be as anti war as we are here. Bonnie said Buck is teachable.. if anyone can teach him its Bonnie..
trust me. Just relax- I know she is awefully busy.. to be honest I do not know how the hell she does what she does. She never sleeps!

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Well he is going to get a crash course

as soon as we get a hold of his responses.

I watched the clips last week.

This is about accountability.

He needs to campaign on it and get elected.

NO DECLARATION ... NO WAR.

According to Tate, that is exactly what he said and he did say it in the video, but I am not going to let him change his position when the going gets rough.

what state do you live in?

what state do you live in? You live in Colorado? Don't worry.. If Bonnie is there she will hold his feet the fire much better then you ever could or thought you could.. Know your Role.. take care of business in your own state before you jump to conclusions and start crap in another State. Are you doing anything in C4L where you live? isn't that Ohio where you are from? are you an officer or even associated with C4L there?

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

I agree, Do you know anything

I agree, Do you know anything about his opponent Norton?
look into her then tell me what you think.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul