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Iowa/NH Watch the Vote 2008 Conference Call Tonight at 9 PM EST

Submitted by infojunkie on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 15:16

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I have just talked to Jim Condit Jr., who witnessed the votefraud against Buchanan in Dubuque in Iowa on Feb 12, 1996.

See below for details of the conference call tonight at 9 PM.

Condit believes that GOP operatives at the state and national level are planning to steal Iowa from Ron Paul by using Diebold machines in some of the the largest counties in Iowa, especially Polk County. Like the Iowa Straw Poll, Iowa GOP leader Ted Sporer may be planning to use the Diebold machines, and not let anyone see the ballots on January 3 (Caucus night), or ever after.

Condit also believes they intend to cheat Ron Paul in NH by fixing the computers in Manchester, Concord, and Nashua, the three biggest cities in NH. The current information is that in those three big cities in NH, it is impossible to get to the ballots on election day or for three weeks afterwards -- just like in the rest of the country. Plenty of time to switch the ballots.

So far, Condit tells me he and his allies can get no support whatsoever from the Campaign, either in Virginia, in NH, or in Iowa. He says National Spokesman, Jesse Benton, National Campaign Coordinator Lew Moore, special paid assistant to the campaign, Don Rasmussen, and so-called webmaster of RonPaul2008.com, Justine Lam, are actively opposing any effort to watch the vote -- and discourage Ron Paul activists from doing anything to watch the vote.

These paid staffers say-- in my opinion quite absurdly -- that the honest vote effort should be totally separate from Ron Paul supporters. ???????

In SHARP CONTRAST, Ron Paul's son, Dr. Rand Paul, told the Thursday night National Ron Paul Conference Call hosted by Steve Harris of NC (four weeks ago) that he encouraged supporters to watch the vote in Iowa and NH. He said that the vote count is just another transparency in government issue. Very true.

At 9 PM EST tonight -- Sunday Night, Dec 9, 2007 -- TONIGHT, Jim Condit Jr. is holding a conference call that has 500 places on it. He will give a brief overview of what his group, now headquartered at www.WatchTheVote2008.com is doing -- and how you can help if you wish.

You can sign up to help Watch the Vote in Iowa and NH at www.WatchTheVote2008.com -- right now.

The number and pin tonight are:

605-475-8500 Pin: 5092984#

Supporters of all Presidential Campaigns, or any body who wants a fair vote count for EVERYBODY -- are welcome on this call also.

There will be brief presentation, and then open for questions and discussion. The thing most needed is a) people who will be boots on the ground in Iowa on Jan 3 and NH on Jan 8 -- as well as about 100 people that will work from their home computer on each night to upload the results.

If the campaign would simply free the volunteers that wanted to -- to help this effort, the only effort going -- things would be a lot simpler. IF the campaign keeps discouraging people from participating, we can only hope their are enough grassroots supporters who realize that WE must help protect the vote for Ron Paul --- and everybody else.

Two meetups related to votecount

Submitted by infojunkie on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 15:29. Permalink

I forgot to put in the main post that two meetups have been set up for the next month to help communicate on the "Watch the Vote" effort in Iowa and NH -- here they are -- and everyone is invited:

Iowa is: electionreform.meetup.com/167

NH is: electionreform.meetup.com/168

Thanks.

Be an informed voter

Submitted by darb002 on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 15:27. Permalink

If you can request a paper ballot or vote absentee, do so.

Obviously you can't do this is a caucus setting like Iowa but people in New Hampshire at least have that ability.

Use affidavit on Watch the Vote to guarantee your vote

Submitted by infojunkie on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 15:52. Permalink

Respectfully, using a paper ballot, or an absentee ballot, does not solve the problem in areas where the votes are counted on machines. Why? Because these are counted on the same computers, which are easily rigged. (See "Princeton Diebold" on youtube.)

The answer is to use the Vote Verification Affidavit on WatchTheVote2008.com -- and then mail it in -- affidavits are now posted for the Iowa Caucus and NH. This way, those running the computers never know when we will be able to produce more affidavits than they have given a candidate votes.

As it stands, if the Iowa Caucus is counted by paper ballots or show of hands -- 100% in front of the people at each caucus (no machines or computers) - then there is no need for the affidavit at the Iowa Caucuses. IF, HOWEVER, GOP state leader Ted Sporer tries to push Diebold computers into Polk County and other large counties in Iowa, then this must be opposed.

If computers are used, --- those present must call for a separation of the room -- which means that those supporting each candidate must separate into different parts of the room so everyone can SEE who supports who. Also, bring cameras. Don't let those trying to fix the Caucus tell you that you can't have hand held cameras. You can.

In NH, 1/2 of the precincts count it right -- by hand -- no computers, no machines. And they count the votes right in front of everybody who wishes to be present. One such city is Richmond, NH -- and a video will be up soon about how it is done there, and how it should be done everywhere. But these 105 NH precincts account for only 25% of the vote in the NH primary.

The rest is counted by computer (105 precincts) -- and these account for 75% of the vote.

The NH Sec of State, Mr. Gardener, should be pressured to allow the count of the paper ballots right there in public after the computer count at each precinct. As far as is known, the only item on the ballot that night will be the Presidential race -- so it would be easy to count in public with just a little planning.

If they will not allow the open count, then it must be assumed that those who provided NH with the computers (and the programs) are planning to fix the vote. It's not hard to guess who they will be fixing it for (Romney, Guiliani, Hillary -- the "front runners" being pushed by the media), and who they will be fixing it against (Ron Paul, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, those the big media is trying hard never to mention).

This is not to say that NH Secretary of State Gardener is doing any fixing, but he is letting the big Computer companies count the vote in secret -- and that is wrong and unconstitutional.

Anyway, it would be in NH where the computers are counting the votes (and where the votes are hidden from the people on or after election day -- that the vote verification affidavits on WatchTheVote2008.com must be used. That way, those running the computers never know when we will be able to produce more voter affidavits (which hold up in court) than they have given a candidate "computer' votes.

This is a terrible situation the VoteFraud Syndicate have put our country in -- but above is an accurate and realistic diagnosis of the situation.